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More like love at first stare.

It' consciously modelled on the Nazi symbol. The issue is more the eagle, which is not remotely Buddhist, it's pure Nazi - the "O" in boy also mirrors the wreath around the swastika, an finally, it's a British company that's been around for a while, not a Thai company.

Exactly - King and Peat are main actors and the new boy is not. And he's 14.

I agree with most of your comments, but the portrait painting was more of a misunderstanding than coersion - I'm not sure what the kid was expecting. It was played for humor, but it was a bit of a misfire. The guy pursuing big sis is a joke character, and he always obeys her, so I don't really see it as problemmatic, Plus, she has not once told him to desist. If she does, and he continues, that's harassment.

I don't think the new kid is a love interest - the actor is 14. He's probably going to be a source of misunderstanding, or he is related to King in some unexpected way. He's not a main cast member, and Peat's actor is.

EP 6

I have to agree with everyone below - I don't understand what the point of Non's character is. It's not much fun to watch him be sad all the time. If you're going to have a love triangle, the loser can't be 100 times more appealing than the 'winner'. Valen is a good guy, but he's too immature to be Kaitoon's bf. But Non - good provider? Check. Sweet and thoughtful? Check. Cute as F? Check. Hides disappointment at being stood up? Check. Hot body? Check.

As for King, what is with the new boy (Ice) all of a sudden? He's not a main character and Peat is, so it doesn't seem likely that will go anywhere, especially since the actor is FOURTEEN. Maybe it's not a love triangle and there's something else to their relationship.

I can forgive Kaitoon for New Year's - when you're totally slammed in a service job, you don't even have time to think of anything else. But the second time, he had an entire day to think about contacting Non, and that's hard for me to get past.

I think this was potentially a great series that's been derailed by its lack of focus and confusing character relationships.

Also, lying on the beach like that would absolutely not be relaxing. You'd have sand getting crammed up your shorts at high velocity by the waves and you'd end up covered with seaweed and dead jellyfish, with sand fleas jumping all over you.

EP 5

I like this series, and I love the actor playing Kaitoon, and I'm also not one to complain about slow pacing, but geez. The setup for the cake thing took forever! And then the cake fight was so mild. After the second time Valen wiped frosting on Kaitoon, I think it should have been the full cake to the face - that would hav been funny. I guess it would be difficult to do multiple takes in that case.

The love photograph scene felt a little like we were being punished or something. Couldn't they have made it a lot shorter and maybe made it cute, instead of the usual "EW! WE'RE BOTH MEN! attitude that BL just won't drop? Seriously, that scene almost made me drop the series. And of course, it led to screeching fujoshis, which we can never get enough of. /sarcasm

I think this show deserves praise for not caking everyone with white makeup. In fact, Non and Kaitoon both looked like they had on spray-tan. And I think the Valen actor is underrated - I think he's doing a great job of being in love with Kaitoon and too insecure to tell him - and too much of a gentleman to push it - like he did the cake 100% for Kaitoon - he didn't even want to take credit it for it.

Note: For non-Americans that don't know the apocryphal Lincoln quote, he got it kind of wrong, but it was merely incomplete. "You can fool [as in deceive] all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Our orange ex-president has proved this true. (Lincoln actually said something different, but never mind.)

If you've seen Ep 0 it shows pretty much all of the Leo/FIat from TT2, but not Fiat's interaction with other people when Leo's not there.

I guess my feeling is that since they've known each other pretty much their whole lives, Leon's very mild teasing shouldn't get on Fiat's nerves unless he's incredibly fragile, which is by problem with how he's being written in this series. I think he would just strike back - it's not like there's nothing to tease Leon about. Although if anyone hurts my precious Leon's feelings, I'll burn their house down.

Well, as I said, allowances for non-native speakers, although now that you say it, the post makes more sense that way.

I didn't see it when I was watching because King didn't strike me as dark, and I don't see how Mew is dark. He's certainly handsome with strong features, though, and he's not afraid of spray-tan. The only "dark" leading man I can think of is Earth Pirapat, and he's about as dark as I am with a tan, and I'm white. Well, I guess there's Jennie Panhan as a leading woman.

But there is a repeated tendency to cast darker people not so much as villains as thugs and other "lower order" characters - and a related tendency to cake on the white makeup on everyone else. I was actually distrated by the huge white blob over the zit on Ja's neck this episode.

But I agree with you, there's not much of an issue here in this ep.

First - Hero of the week: Anda. Was anyone else shouting "Do it again! Do it again!"

OK. If you want to redeem a character, he should regret his past behavior and atone for it today. Going back every week and making one of his acts of promiscuity a service to mankind isn't a plot, it's tinkering with backstory. And it's in a way that insults our intelligence, because it's already been made clear he was doing it to hurt Leo.

They keep saying things like "let's put the past behind us", but they never do and we wander in circles. How about a plot that moves the story of Leo and Fiat forward? There are so many elements to that story that could have been exploited for excellent drama, but instead we get this unconvincing attempt to paint Fiat as the Mother Theresa of Grindr. Fiat was a great bad-boy character - now he's whiney and useless. When he and Leon were teasing each other, he was actually upset? Is he four? And how is a grown man like Leo totally incapable of controlling himself when faced with transparent-to-the-point -of -LOL-funny goading? Seriously, the only response should have been to laugh. First & Ja deserve better.

Leon and Pob, however, are gold, and I still can't believe the same person is writing for both couples. I love how Pob is making Leon work for it, and how adorably vulnerable Leon is. Smart is a wonderful find - a real natural. And who is that handsome, cute, and sexy all at once? He's definitely leading-man material. James' acting is very strong too. His effort to wipe the smile off his face was very well-done, and his utter stone face when he turned back around made me laugh. These two are 100% carrying the show for me. Well, 98%. 1% Anda and 1% pure Ja hotness.

I don't think anyone has a problem with Fiat's promscuity - it's his reasons. He was using other people to deliberately hurt Leo - that's problemmatic. If he was doing it in good faith because he really enjoyed sex, then great. But to seduce people under false pretenses, and for a not-very-nice motive, that's not good. That's not slut shaming, it's false-pretense-revenge-sex shaming, which I think is appropriate.

Even that's fine - perfect angels are boring characters. But let's have him do something to atone instead of rewriting the story to paint his promiscuity as a service to mankind.

Not only that, but you can be effeminate and still be strong. They are equating effeminacy with helplessness, which is not only homophobic, it's misogynist.

You're right, in theory, but this is starting to be the "redemptive sex act of the week" show - doing it repetitively suggests that this was his motivation all along and is an attempt to whitewash what was really terrible behavior. Not sleeping around in itself, but his reasons for it - he was using people in order to hurt someone else, which is really awful. The way to address that is have Fiat regret his past and atone for it now, not retroactively absolve him.

In any case, it's backstory. Why not have a plot that moves the story of Fiat and Leo forward instead of running around in circles? Can you sum up the plot of this series in a sentence? You can easily do it for Leon and Pob, but what is the Fiat/Leo story actually about?

I think you missed J100's point, which was against colorism, not perpetuating it. Mentioning someone's dark skin is not inherently a racist slur unless you're suggesting negative qualities associated with it. For example "I was entranced by the golden glow of his dark porcelain skin" vs. "He was as lazy as I expected of someone dark-skinned". The first is not racist, the second is.

J100 was applauding the casting of someone who wasn't bleached whiter than a Scandinavian albino or with so much white base plastered onto their faces that they probably need a jackhammer to chisel it off after each shoot.

Also, we should make allowances for non-native speakers. It's not easy to refer to coloration appropriately even for natives.

I'm right there with you, except I'm sticking with it for Leon, but ff'ing through Fiat & Leo. The writing for Fiat & Leo is hard to understand - it's very repetitive an they're both unappealing.

I totally agree - I think he's carrying the show - TBH I'd probably drop it if not for him.

It's really mostly Aek, although he's the main character. It's funny you mention that - it's come up before, and it appears to be a standard Thai thing - I'm not sure why they direct actors to do that, but it can be frustrating. I had to set The Yearbook on 2x speed to avoid falling into a coma and it still seemed really slow. Once while watching Until We Meet Again, I set it on 2x, forgot I did, and didn't notice until there was a song.

I was so afraid Dr Oat was evil - I was just waiting for it. Or that he was a secret agent good-guy, but nope, just a hot doctor.

My pleasure! I don't think you need to have had bullying due to sexuality in your experience to understand what it's like because it's not that different from being a woman - just think about the assumptions people made about your math and science abilities and you're most of the way there.

"Feel better about homosexuality" is a good way to put it regarding the seme/uke thing. I wonder if maybe some of the writers are from cultures that aren't what we would call "liberated" in the West, and they can't imagine a relationship where the "feminine" person is" in charge". Or maybe they get off on the power dynamic - I'm sure there are lots of reasons. Power imbalance can be hot, but it can get old if it's the same dynamic every time. Why does Leo have to be the top? Fiat was the perfect character to break the mold with.

And what's with the "take care of" thing? Do adults need other adults to take care of them? And if they do, is that usually the husband or the wife? I think I know what 99% of women would say. So why not in a m/m relationship?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e26sYBvWysg

It's almost OTT.

Well, at least he didn't have to shoot himself this time.