They finally got out of that endless loop of Pi rejecting Mork with his bratty, sniveling whining. But I had to…
The setup for the crying in the rain scene was poor. It implication seemed to be that Pi's mother doesn't accept his sexuality, but she said nothing of the sort, just that he's been distant and not very nice, which is a 1000% accurate assessment. I actually actively dislike him.
His coldness to his mother and his meltdown just seemed out of nowhere and it just felt like the writer wanted to end the episode that way so she did. And WTF was Mork doing out there in the rain? BL needs to stop giving people teleport powers.
Mork would have to be self-loathing to have any interest in someone that unpleasant and immature.
Anyway, I can't get enough of Duean and Meen - I'd be fine if this show were entirely about them.
Meh.Phuwin is a pretty good comedic actor, but the dramatic elements this script and director are asking of him…
I feel the chemistry from Mork, but not Pi. And I also don't see why Mork would like a rude and whiney little child like Pi when he could have anyone. ANYONE.
Out of the actors Aoey is not filthy rich. His family probably is, but he is being disowned and it was more or…
I totally get what you're saying - but "villain" is stronger than "drunk come-on". Also, Gene didn't say "no" - he just stood there staring. It's one of the reasons I don't like the writing. Gene has no agency - things just happen to him to serve the plot. In this case, the writer wanted Sib to rescue Gene, so Gene had to just sit there and do nothing.
Going in for a kiss is not sexual assault. If Gene had said no and Aeoy had done it anyway, then yes. You don't have to touch someone to assault them (battery is when you touch them), so Sib has also sexually assaulted Gene, several times by that definition (and I don't think he has). And Gene did say no in his case. Which makes Gene an inconsistent character. Why does he resist Sib all the time, but he would have let Aoey give him what would likely have been an awful sloppy drunken kiss from an unpleasant person? It makes no sense.
I don't think I'm whitewashing Aoey - I think everyone else is demonizing him. I think he's someone you want to stay away from because he's messed up, has no self-control, and leaves a trail of damage behind him, but he's not evil.
That was by far the best ep yet - it actually made me cry. Those two have wonderful chemistry - it was there in YYY too. I wonder if maybe Lay just has chemistry with everyone. Although Perth & Yoon are both great at being the soulful quiet types.
QUOTE: "WTF was that? This series was just pretending to be a critique of the BL culture, but it was really just…
Nice to hear from you! It feels like the author was trying to lend the story "'cred'" by including (extremely mild) critiques of BL, while adhering strictly to the formula. The only deviation was that the "villain" slot was held by a complex and interesting character who wasn't really a villain, but he doesn't seem to have been appreciated by the audience.
In fact, this adheres to an earlier version of the BL formula including the internalized homophobia and an obligatory straight couple.
A lot of people are saying they didn't like the last episode and that It didn't really get anything done in terms…
I don't think that's what the problem is. Because they made all the actors rich, there are no stakes. So what if Gene or Sib never work again? They can just chose which one of their mansions to hang out it and frolic together all they want. That completely undermined the point about how actors are treated. REAL BL actors are not rich and they need the money, so they have no choice but to go along. Gene & Sib can just flip everyone off and live happily ever after.
And also, the central conflict made no sense. All Gene and Sib had to do was lie low and not be seen together in public for four months. There was zero reason to break up. There was also zero reason for Sib to not tell Gene who he was from the beginning - Gene would have been thrilled to reconnect with him, and who turns down a hot guy living in your apartment that wants you?
Finally, SIb had no personality. Can you tell me what he interests are? Hobbies? His only characteristic was wanting Gene. In fact, Gene had almost no personality except being grumpy, nervous, and having writer's block. That's because Gene is the author inserting herself into the story to give herself her fantasy boyfriend. Sib only exists for that reason.
It's a tribute to Up that he made such a shallow characterization compelling. Bruce did the same with Aoey, who could have been a cardboard-cutout villain, but instead gave him layers of depth.
I agree with this 100%. I don’t understand how many fans love to disregard the problems with this series. It…
Yes - I thought Bruce was totally amazing as Aoey, Up did as well as anyone could with a character that, well, didn't really have one, and the production quality was certainly very high. It's just that if the central conflict makes absolutely no sense, it takes you completely out of the story and you're just thinking, "um, why don't you just lie low and don't be seen in public for 4 months?"
I don't think you're supposed to be cheering on Tum's sister, but I was thinking she needed to slap a few more people.
But I still think Kao is a mannequin that can talk. Not that I don't like looking at him or anything, but he gave the term 2D new meaning. Although to be fair it was partly the writing. Since he only existed to serve as the author's fantasy bf, she didn't bother to give him any characteristics other than wanting the author.
Well said. There are 8-20-mins-episode low budget series (especially pinoy) where characters have more depth,…
Actually UWMA itself was "borrowing" from Romeo & Juliet - but R&J are so archetypical that you can't really call it copying, since half of all romance since has borrowed liberally from it.
But because it was the same actor as in UWMA, it's definitely a call-back to UWMA - they even made fun of it a little, but yes, I noticed the shirt too - good eye! I really liked that movie - I've seen it more than once.
Wow that was some emotional release you got out of your system - LOL - it’s a BL series this is not a documentary…
Why are we in a discussion forum if not to discuss? I'm not sure what you're issue is, but I'm not upset, I'm just giving my critique. Where did I say I was "betrayed"?
The shows depart from the novels quite frequently and at times radically. And they should. Or they should stop adapting bad novels and write original screenplays. The visual medium is totally different and what may work on the page doesn't in live action.
But sometimes they part with the source material in bad ways too, like making Torfun a huge part of 1,000 Stars when in the book she died, he got her heart, no more thinking about her. Or Oxygen added that awful doctor/fujoshi storyline.
This looks really good. I don't mind that the production isn't as slick as a high-budget producction - as long as the writing and acting are good. The scene where that one guy says "have you been watching too many BL series?" was really funny. And then the other guy admits he got the idea from a BL series.
It is one of the worst episodes until now, so long and doesn't end! it is just draging and trrible, very hard…
I had to put almost all of it on 2x (if there was such a thing as 4x I would have done that). Bruce did a great job in the crying scene, but it started to feel sadistic it went on so long. I don't get why people think there's chemistry - for me there was zero - in fact it usually looked like Gene hated being touched by Sib. I think people feel it because Kao is very, very attractive.
Also, it's a little weird Gene was fantasizing about being in bed with 9-year old Sib when he's had sex with 20-year old Sib. Or maybe a lot weird.
If it wasn't clear that Gene was the writer inserting herself into the story so she could have her dream man, they ACTUALLY inserted the actual writer into the story as Gene. And then they even ended it with sterotypical fantasies, although they get points for doing Romeo & Juliet and having both of them die.
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His coldness to his mother and his meltdown just seemed out of nowhere and it just felt like the writer wanted to end the episode that way so she did. And WTF was Mork doing out there in the rain? BL needs to stop giving people teleport powers.
Mork would have to be self-loathing to have any interest in someone that unpleasant and immature.
Anyway, I can't get enough of Duean and Meen - I'd be fine if this show were entirely about them.
Going in for a kiss is not sexual assault. If Gene had said no and Aeoy had done it anyway, then yes. You don't have to touch someone to assault them (battery is when you touch them), so Sib has also sexually assaulted Gene, several times by that definition (and I don't think he has). And Gene did say no in his case. Which makes Gene an inconsistent character. Why does he resist Sib all the time, but he would have let Aoey give him what would likely have been an awful sloppy drunken kiss from an unpleasant person? It makes no sense.
I don't think I'm whitewashing Aoey - I think everyone else is demonizing him. I think he's someone you want to stay away from because he's messed up, has no self-control, and leaves a trail of damage behind him, but he's not evil.
In fact, this adheres to an earlier version of the BL formula including the internalized homophobia and an obligatory straight couple.
And also, the central conflict made no sense. All Gene and Sib had to do was lie low and not be seen together in public for four months. There was zero reason to break up. There was also zero reason for Sib to not tell Gene who he was from the beginning - Gene would have been thrilled to reconnect with him, and who turns down a hot guy living in your apartment that wants you?
Finally, SIb had no personality. Can you tell me what he interests are? Hobbies? His only characteristic was wanting Gene. In fact, Gene had almost no personality except being grumpy, nervous, and having writer's block. That's because Gene is the author inserting herself into the story to give herself her fantasy boyfriend. Sib only exists for that reason.
It's a tribute to Up that he made such a shallow characterization compelling. Bruce did the same with Aoey, who could have been a cardboard-cutout villain, but instead gave him layers of depth.
I don't think you're supposed to be cheering on Tum's sister, but I was thinking she needed to slap a few more people.
But I still think Kao is a mannequin that can talk. Not that I don't like looking at him or anything, but he gave the term 2D new meaning. Although to be fair it was partly the writing. Since he only existed to serve as the author's fantasy bf, she didn't bother to give him any characteristics other than wanting the author.
But because it was the same actor as in UWMA, it's definitely a call-back to UWMA - they even made fun of it a little, but yes, I noticed the shirt too - good eye! I really liked that movie - I've seen it more than once.
The shows depart from the novels quite frequently and at times radically. And they should. Or they should stop adapting bad novels and write original screenplays. The visual medium is totally different and what may work on the page doesn't in live action.
But sometimes they part with the source material in bad ways too, like making Torfun a huge part of 1,000 Stars when in the book she died, he got her heart, no more thinking about her. Or Oxygen added that awful doctor/fujoshi storyline.
Also, it's a little weird Gene was fantasizing about being in bed with 9-year old Sib when he's had sex with 20-year old Sib. Or maybe a lot weird.
If it wasn't clear that Gene was the writer inserting herself into the story so she could have her dream man, they ACTUALLY inserted the actual writer into the story as Gene. And then they even ended it with sterotypical fantasies, although they get points for doing Romeo & Juliet and having both of them die.