Same!! Ppl like it cuz of the hype and mess. But it really didn’t do what it said it would and had poor quality…
You wanted to see someone getting sexually abused? I don't think that would make it past censors, and even if it did, everyone would be screaming that the director was being exploitative (and they'd be correct). The way the subject was handled was the best, because it showed the emotional damage done to the victim.
What Bas experienced as traumatic abuse might just seem like a mildly distasteful encounter to me - or maybe even seem more severe than Bas found it to someone else, Showing what happened would just lessen the impact.
Homophobia was featured rather prominently in the first episode - not just the table scene. I'm not sure a point needs to be belabored. It sound like you watched part of the first episode and then stopped - you're saying things weren't in it that were in it.
All series are promoted - heavily, You're criticizing the director for doing what everyone else does.
The toxicity I was referring to you can see for yourself if you scroll down in this discussion - a load of people showed up here to attack the show before it even aired and/or without watching it and were just generally nasty to everyone.
I was actually more bothered with the sound issues in the car than they awful green screen. The amount of crinkling…
I'm not sure what I was thinking, but I was in fact a music major. Besides being an extremely difficult major, it's not very commercially useful. It did actually help get job interviews because it made people curious, so there's that.
There is no way that actual brothers will fall in love. It's natural u cannot fall in love with ur blood sibling…
You have to grow up with someone for the sibling aversion thing to kick in. Even step-siblings or cousins will have it if they're put together as children. If you somehow got separated from a sibling, then met them for the first time as a teen or adult, you could fall for them - it's not like some automatic pheromone thing. That would be really weird. Probably worse for straight siblings than gay ones. At least we can't have two-headed babies. I don't know what I'm babbling about. It's late.
The got together at the end of Ep 12 and it was cut out. In favor of a plastic surgery commercial, as if marketing that to teens isn't worse than two boys in love.
Same!! Ppl like it cuz of the hype and mess. But it really didn’t do what it said it would and had poor quality…
I wasn't aware of any hype or mess. I liked the series because of the good writing and superlative acting. Not all of us follow BL news or twitter feeds, or care about all the shipping and other fan service. It's one thing to hear about abuses, and another to experience them in a story like this. There was no telling - it was entirely showing. I'm not sure what you mean by that.
This was only the first season - I'm sure subsquent series will explore the toxic fandom, a large proportion of which has shown up here to rip on the series because they don't like the director for reasons that are not clear to me and that I also don't care about.
I judge him by his work, and I'd have to say as a director he's decent based on this. There are some technical faults that I can overlook due to the low budget, but others that shouldn't be there, so a "C" based on technical merit. But the performance he got out of his actors was a solid "A".
BTW, was it must me or was James really unappealing this ep? He could have at least brushed his teeth - it was bad enough he didn't shower. That was just gross.
Idk, I don't feel the same way about Pi. I think Pi's behaviour makes sense to a degree. Pi doesn't like Mork.…
My feeling is that his attitude was sort of acceptable at first because of that brutal betrayal by his friends, and it wasn't unreasonable to assume Mork was playing with him when that photo was posted - but this is Ep 5 and Mork has been relentlessly kind to Pi and very patient with his rude behavior, yet Pi continues to treat him like sh#$ for no reason.
Compare that to Oxygen where Phu was cold to Kao, who then gradually chipped away his defenses - we're not seeing that here - Pi is more and more rude, not less, and the series is half over. (5 out of 12 is half since ep 11 & most of 12 will be burned by implausible drama caused by even more implausible miscommunication. I haven't read the book or any spoilers, but it's a BL, so yeah.)
We need to see a progression. It also doesn't make any plot sense. Mork and Meung are best friends, so they must have discussed this, so it's weird that Meung hasn't made it clear he's not interested rather than leading Pi on. Unless Meung IS interested, in which case this is good news for rude creepy people.
You don’t like Pi because he is rude but you like Duean? The thing is Duean is as rude as Pi, the difference…
Everyone's behavior is creepy if they're not good-looking. But Mork is so incredibly beautiful he could drown puppies for fun and it wouldn't be creepy. Maybe they should have cast someone else for the role.
I was actually more bothered with the sound issues in the car than they awful green screen. The amount of crinkling…
I would have commited seppuku if I'd watched it with headphones. I attribute it to childhood trauma caused by my piano teacher, who would try to quietly unwrap cough drops in the middle of performances, which would only extend the torture.
Why? 19 is perfectly adult. Saint was 19 when Love By Chance was filmed and it was his first role. If everyone…
That's true, but most BL actors are under 25 - I would be more than happy if they shifted to late 20s+ storylines, but that's not what BL is. Or at least not what it's been so far.
I was interested in this because Max and Zee are in it (and are both in their late 20s) - I didn't notice how young some of the others are until you mentioned it, but I do get your point.
You don’t like Pi because he is rude but you like Duean? The thing is Duean is as rude as Pi, the difference…
Duean is a comic character, though, and although his language is rude, his actions are all entirely caring and non-selfish (if horribly misguided at times). Do you think Pi would have gone through all that to retrieve Mork's water bottle? Or even Duean's? Or even his grandmother's?
Pi doesn't want Mork to leave him alone, he wants Mork to not be chasing Max, but since he's not, he can't comply - and he keeps telling Pi he's not, but because Pi is a self-absorbed child, he refuses to accept it - he'd rather deflect his onw failings onto someone else.
If Mork is indeed the secret friend, then that's a good point, but even then, Pi is rude to him, too.
I don't have anything against GMMTV (except their tendency to ruin endings. And I appeciate how easy it is to…
That's actually a really good point - if it's true that Mork is the secret friend. But from what we've seen of their interaction, Pi is even rude to his secret friend!
I think I'll be fine with all this if it just starts to progress. 5 eps in and nothing has happened or changed - Duean's storyline has progressed literally twenty times more so far.
I'm not sure who thought there was any need to make something this spectacularly unoriginal. I could barely make it through this on 2x. I thought Ball was adorable and Jin is actually a bit different than the usual lead - he's cute. But Bbomb is duller than Pha in 2moons2 and I didn't think that was possible.
I think I'm going to have to pass on this - it was really difficult to sit through. Let me know if Kaownah gets screentime and I can skim it later for him.
Also, native Thai music is so beautiful - but their Western music is awful - I think there's only one song, with and it just keeps getting recycled over and over. It's so harmonically simple it makes mariachi sound complex.
Episode 1~From what I just saw in the last 50 minutes, Nitiman’s first episode used up all the tropes in one…
The only thing that happened that wasn't strictly forumlaic is that Jin didn't vomit after drinking. Usually one sip of beer results in vomiting and having sex with your family members.
I have to admit that Jin is really cute - his drunken "over there!" and his crying were really adorable. And Ball was adorable too.
Other than that, this was almost torture to watch.
What Bas experienced as traumatic abuse might just seem like a mildly distasteful encounter to me - or maybe even seem more severe than Bas found it to someone else, Showing what happened would just lessen the impact.
Homophobia was featured rather prominently in the first episode - not just the table scene. I'm not sure a point needs to be belabored. It sound like you watched part of the first episode and then stopped - you're saying things weren't in it that were in it.
All series are promoted - heavily, You're criticizing the director for doing what everyone else does.
The toxicity I was referring to you can see for yourself if you scroll down in this discussion - a load of people showed up here to attack the show before it even aired and/or without watching it and were just generally nasty to everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJMxMc5zlE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEzuMY8NnDw
The got together at the end of Ep 12 and it was cut out. In favor of a plastic surgery commercial, as if marketing that to teens isn't worse than two boys in love.
This was only the first season - I'm sure subsquent series will explore the toxic fandom, a large proportion of which has shown up here to rip on the series because they don't like the director for reasons that are not clear to me and that I also don't care about.
I judge him by his work, and I'd have to say as a director he's decent based on this. There are some technical faults that I can overlook due to the low budget, but others that shouldn't be there, so a "C" based on technical merit. But the performance he got out of his actors was a solid "A".
Compare that to Oxygen where Phu was cold to Kao, who then gradually chipped away his defenses - we're not seeing that here - Pi is more and more rude, not less, and the series is half over. (5 out of 12 is half since ep 11 & most of 12 will be burned by implausible drama caused by even more implausible miscommunication. I haven't read the book or any spoilers, but it's a BL, so yeah.)
We need to see a progression. It also doesn't make any plot sense. Mork and Meung are best friends, so they must have discussed this, so it's weird that Meung hasn't made it clear he's not interested rather than leading Pi on. Unless Meung IS interested, in which case this is good news for rude creepy people.
I was interested in this because Max and Zee are in it (and are both in their late 20s) - I didn't notice how young some of the others are until you mentioned it, but I do get your point.
Pi doesn't want Mork to leave him alone, he wants Mork to not be chasing Max, but since he's not, he can't comply - and he keeps telling Pi he's not, but because Pi is a self-absorbed child, he refuses to accept it - he'd rather deflect his onw failings onto someone else.
If Mork is indeed the secret friend, then that's a good point, but even then, Pi is rude to him, too.
I think I'll be fine with all this if it just starts to progress. 5 eps in and nothing has happened or changed - Duean's storyline has progressed literally twenty times more so far.
I'm not sure who thought there was any need to make something this spectacularly unoriginal. I could barely make it through this on 2x. I thought Ball was adorable and Jin is actually a bit different than the usual lead - he's cute. But Bbomb is duller than Pha in 2moons2 and I didn't think that was possible.
I think I'm going to have to pass on this - it was really difficult to sit through. Let me know if Kaownah gets screentime and I can skim it later for him.
Also, native Thai music is so beautiful - but their Western music is awful - I think there's only one song, with and it just keeps getting recycled over and over. It's so harmonically simple it makes mariachi sound complex.
I have to admit that Jin is really cute - his drunken "over there!" and his crying were really adorable. And Ball was adorable too.
Other than that, this was almost torture to watch.