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Hey, if the cat is consenting, who is anyone to question it?

The 3rd episode didn't seem like BL to you?

Well, nobody f#$%ed a cat, but it was cute.

I think it's Max. He has sort of that Earth-ishness - to a lesser degree, but it's still there.

I thought it was way better than Y Destiny - I squirmed all the way through Y - super-cringe.

But he's filthy rich and doesn't have to play another role. That's why I think there are two separate issues. One is the general problem that fans demand that the actors behave as a real couple which is awful, and the other is the situation Gene and Sib are in, which is their own fault for being careless.

Is Earth openly dating a woman? I just checked his instagram, and there are dozens of photos of him being very intimate with Mix, and not one single female anywhere, unless one of his cats is a girl.

Again, that's mashing together two different problems. That actors have to do this is wrong, but is due to the expectations of the fans, which is what needs to change. If it doesn't, and BL companies let actors date girls openly, then far fewer people will watch, and people will stop making BLs (or at least ones with real budgets).

Gene and Sib are playing on the field that is already there. They knew the consquences and did it anyway. They were given lots of friendly warnings to be careful and they didn't. Their recklessness and selfishness caused this problem, and Gene's solution was absolutely correct. To do anything else would have hurt many innocent people who would lose their jobs, including Tum and Hin, both of whom have done everything they can to support both of them.

I totally agree. Many people here are actually blaming him for this mess, which he had absolutely nothing to do with (unless he took and posted the photo). He made it worse, but while everyone keeps pointing out that Gene and Sib are human beings, nobody accords Aoey that privilege. He was doing a live feed and was besieged by a million people throwing Gene and Sib in his face and he broke down. He was clearly trying to hold it together and maintain the "company line", but what could he do once he was stuck there?

Aoey is being used to deflect all blame away from where it belongs, whcih is with Sib for his monomaniacal obsession with Gene, which causes him to do whatever he wants regardless of the consequences to everyone else.

In this case, he threatened to derail the production, which would costs hundreds of non-crazy-rich people their jobs.

He's young and stupid, so I don't think he's evil or anything, but it's completely crazy to blame Aoey.

I aim to please!

How? The photo was already posted and millions of people had commented on it with all the hashtags. Aoey had absolutely nothing to do with it. You're deflecting blame from the people who caused this to someone who didn't. Aoey didn't take the photo (as far as we know - if he did, someone should shoot him), and Aoey didn't make Gene and Sib frolick in a public place.

There's a difference between how things ARE and how they SHOULD be. Actors should have free private lives, but both of them, and especially Sib, knew that was not the case here.

What they've done affects a lot of people and could cause innocent and poor people to love their livelihoods - it's easy for two crazy-rich people to handle the loss of their jobs, but not all the production staff.

I wasn't serious. This is about cat/owner love, not romantic love - I was making fun of people for getting freaked out by such an innocent and wholesome story.

There are two different problems. One is the situation Gene and Nubsib are in. This has already happened and has to be dealt with. It's not just about them as it affects the entire production and impacts a lot of people's jobs - mostly people who have had zero control over the situation, e.g the production staff, who will lose their jobs if the production is derailed.

The other problem is the BL industry in general, which is a separate (though related) issue. This is a fictonal story where all the actors are from mega-rich families, which is of course ridiculous. BL actors generally really need the money, so they have little choice but to follow along with the "rules".

Sib did all this in his insane plan to get close to Gene, instead of just re-introducing himself, or having his mother hold a dinner for both families. He didn't care about the consequences of what he was doing, and this was the result.

I don't think Sib is insane, I think the story is very poorly written. It's a good thing they cast a lot of talented actors or this would be unwatchable for a lot of people.

I know, I wasn't serious. People were freaked out, but it's not like they did anything, it was pet-owner love, that's all.

I don't see how, and in any case, he clearly didn't mean to - whatever you think of Aoey, Bruce is an amazing actor and he clearly portrayed someone who was shocked and trying to hold himself together, he just failed. Everything he was saying was "all of us get along very well".

It feels like people are trying to deflect blame from Sib and Gene's carelessness onto Aoey. Sib should never have brought Gene with him to the shoot, and definitely shouldn't have frolicked with him in a very public place.

I don't really blame Gene as he's kind of naive and didn't understand the situation - but Sib certainly did.

OK, I'm not commenting on whether or not the way BL writers are treated is right or wrong, I'm commenting on whether or not Aoey's action had anything to do with this particular situation. Once the photo was posted, that was it. Nothing Aoey did would change the firestorm of controversy.

The way BL actors are treated will continue so long as fans demand that BL couples behave as real couples, so the problem is in our hands, nobody else's.

Welcome to growing up gay. Not the point, I know. I guess where my sympathy goes away is that they knew ahead of time what they were getting into - especially Sib - and so this isn't something suddenly forced on them - it was precipitated by their own carelessness and irresponsibility. I blame Sib (no surprise, right?) because he especially must have known this would be the result, but his monomaniacal (I downgraded him from psycho to monomaniacal just for you) pursuit of Gene swept away all practical concerns and the impact on others.

If he had broken his contract, the BL production would end, and all those people would lose their jobs. That's too much damage for not playing along.

Gene had two personal residences, including a nice tower apartment and a villa on the edge of town, not to mention his family's mansion. I think he qualifies as wealthy.

But I agree with your main point. Boo hoo to the rich people, but a lot of those boys depend on the money to support their families or be able to go to school. I doubt too many rich boys decide to be BL actors, right?

I don't deny the validity of those feelings, but that was their job and they knew it ahead of time. That's different than reality. Also, as a person who had to not only deny his love but his entire sexuality for years, not months, it's hard for me to sympathize with them.

Also, if Sib had broken the contract and walked away from the production a lot of people would have lost their jobs and livelihoods - that's too selfish to the point of evil, as families would suffer, maybe go hungry, not be able to make rent, pay for school, etc.

Everyone around here is so easily weirded out. So what if he wants to have sex with his cat? As long as the cat is consenting, who are we to judge? That cat was so cute - I'd definitely have sex with it.

How did Aoey manipulate Gene? Other than messing with him by saying he spiked the drink, he's been fairly forthright - what lies has he told? If anything, Gene lied to Aoey about his feelings for Sib (not that I think he had any responsibity discuss it with him).

I guess you're right about the novel adaptation - that's one of the reasons I wish they'd stop adapting novels and write original screenplays - they're not taking advantage of the visual medium being another reason.

How would it be different? Gene & Sib were reckless and photographed and it was posted. The result would have been the same no matter what Aoey did.