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I expected it to have a plot instead of going in circles for 8 episodes. The first 4 or so I really enjoyed, but it's just been wandering around since.

I also expected it to have high production values, but it doesn't. It's poorly filmed and directed. The acting is great, but the technical failings don't make it shine like it should.

You seem to take people disagreeing with you a little personally, You're following everyone around to upbraid them for criticism. This is a discussion forum, not an echo chamber.

I would agree it would be out of line if people were posting THIS SUCKS I HATE IT, but people are giving specific and thought-through criticisms.

Criticism is essential for anything to improve. If everyone held to the "say something nice or nothing at all principle, everything in the world would be mediocre at best.

Finally, when you voice specific criticisms, you might be basing them on things you misunderstood, and people her can point that out and you can change your mind. I have many times.

I wish they had gone with the traditional Thai outfits - they looked so good in those. The tuxes were good too.

Is there any source material that this is taken from? I wonder if there was a novel that had a plot that they decided not to go with.

A lot of Thai series only have 6 eps worth of material and they stretch it out to 12 eps, so maybe there are plot threads that have been introduced that will bear fruit later. It feels like they. are moving Dee & Yak's relationship both very fast but also hitting the breaks constantly. They've already had tons of sex, so why is a kiss so built up? I liked the kiss scene, and they did a good job with it, but after everything that's gone before it didn't have the dramatic punch it could have.

I think what the problem really might be is the photography and directing - notice the scene where Dee and Kao are walking and talking - it's disjointed with a column in the way. There are a lot of things like that.

You're probably better off ignoring them if you have nothing to add - it's a little weird.

I liked it. I didn't find Sun to be overacting at all - I thought everyone else was. It's predictable and cliche-ridden, but it's also very well filmed and directed. I was just watching Wandee Gooday and I found the incompetent cinematography and directing distracting lifeless, which is a pity.

It's got some cliches, but the trip/fall/catch was played for humor, so I forgive it.

It's very predictable, and sometimes the humor is a tad broad, but I like it. Mos is sexy as heck, and I think he's doing a good job. I'm not sure about Bank yet - I think he's fine, but the writing for his character isn't very deep. This is one of those stories that basically takes a stereotypical female role and drops a boy into her place. I would like to see Salin act more like a man and not so much a woman keeping up appearances of modesty. It feels a little like a pre-teen afternoon romance series.

But it's extremely well-filmed, with a lot of visual stereotelling, like the placement of Sun's hand indicating his sexual desire for Salin, which he was showing on his face, but the reinforcement was well-done. The underwater sequence was especially good.

It's worded poorly, but what it means is that Salin used to dream of a man, but when he approached 18, the man disappeared from his dreams. Now he's an intern at the company, years later (presumably when he's 21 or 22). I think you already figured it out, but just sayin' for anyone else reading.

I don't think it's about disliking it, it's disappointment that something that had a promising start is wandering aimlessly in circles. We still get to look at Great all episode, and everyone seems to like the secondary couple, which is the main thing drawing me back.

Hmm. I think maybe the lack of a plot deprives the story of any momentum, and so it's just a string of unrelated events that present minor obstacles to our mains and just prolong the story in an unconvincing way. These are two fully adult men - how complicated is it? They're already together, so what's the point of the pretense?

Example: Today's "obstacle" was Yak having to go help someone and only became a problem because he ran off without explaining, then never even sent a text to keep Dee updated or give him an ETA on returning. It was artificial and silly, not to mention rude and inconsiderate.

There's a spark missing.

There's no real storyline for the secondary couple either, but they are more compelling. (Although I don't understand why Cher can't propose - he more or less already did - but that's BL treating semes and ukes like totally different genders, squeezing them into a traditional man/woman dynamic. Sigh.)

It is missing a spark, but other than Only Boo!, I can't even get through the others (I haven't seen Sunset X yet, though). Watching Love Sea felt like I was being punished for something.

I think maybe one problem is that the story is too static, and maybe not too believable - I had my first kiss when I was about 10 - someone in their mid/late 20s hasn't? If he were repressed, I could buy it, but he's not. And they've had sex dozens, if not hundreds of times and never kissed? it feels like mashing together something steamy with something aimed at pre-adolescent girls, and it gets a little tiresome after a while.

With those two leads, there should be... something. Maybe they needed to stretch out their period of hostility or something - they've been together since almost the beginning (without officially being together, which is is meaningless and artificial distinction).

But the secondary couple is way more compelling and they've had a total of maybe 3 minutes of screen time the whole series so far.

The photos and food in the freezer were very nice touches - but we didn't need an entire hour just to have them.

I don't see how pretending to be cruel to someone is "mature" - it's just cruel and counterproductive. Although if you meant the acting, then I would agree Meen was excellent,

They had no need to make up until Kang was an asshole to him "for his own good", so it was just going in circles.

I had to stop a couple of minutes into part 2 of this ep - I didn't want to see it, and it was all so predictable I don't need to. What a disappointment.

Findkng out who you love is extremely easy, not messy, except in overwrought melodramas like this with lazy writing. But I agree about Great - he's impressive in several ways.

This was a waste of an episode that just rehashed drama we've already gotten and added nothing. Instead of moving the plot forward, they'll have to cram all the resolution into one episode, which is going to make everything feel rushed and/or unearned. I'm actually a little angry, because I've really loved this show until the last couple of episodes.

A chaste peck is not problemmatic with someone who is trying to kiss you in his sleep who has basically just expressed his love, but he was clearly not asleep because he flashed back to the scene later on in the episode. I think we get way, way, way too hung up on issues like this.

That was tedious. I'm so disappointed at where this show has gone. I don't understand why Thai productions can't just do a comedy - they always, always have to make it a contrived melodramatic mess.

Who past the age of 4 doesn't have the emotional maturity to see that the hug in the hallway was somoene upset being comforted and not romantic in the slightest? That was ridiculous. And how do you trip in such a way that you kick someone in the head so hard that they end up in a hospital (and yet it doesn't leave so much as a red mark, but I'll forgive that since pretty much everthing in the media does that)? How in the age of social media can you lose track of someone you are desperate to locate? It's literally impossible.

When you stack up contrivance after contrivance, and add to that unnecessarily long scenes like "please don't leave me until I fall asleep", and have an endless series of flashbacks to a blaring sappy love ballad, you end up with a waste of an hour. Nothing happened this episode to advance the story - it was just a tiring hour of overwrought drama that doesn't fit the tone of the show so far. And don't get me started on the be-cruel-to-him-for-his-own-good cliche. That is absolutely the worst and most lazy writing.

Keen is someone to watch, though. He was really playing the keyboard, he can sing, and he's a very capable actor. Not everyone can do comedy and drama.

They do resemble each other - I see it.

The production isn't bad, although it's mediocre. But the music is terrible. Not the OST or the singing so much, but the background music isn't just grating, it's way too loud.

I think maybe it's partly that people are going to compare it to the Japanese version which had much more energy, but also to the much better My School President, where the chemistry between Fourth & Gemini was way more visceral, or Moonlight Chicken, where the acting was stronger. Here it feels like the directing is aimed at keeping away the gay - the way they were standing so far apart while dancing, for example - contrast that with how the characters leaned into each other or touched all the time in MSP.

That had it's moments, but again, the music editor had the volume way too high.

i'm not feeling the chemistry between Gemini & Fourth. There's too much confusion in their expressions, and even Fourth is not selling it, although he's doing a good job with the humor. The dance scene in the play was awkward, and it should have been enchanting - they seemed more interested in keeping a meter between their bodies at all costs rather than looking like a love pair.

It wasn't bad or anything (except the awful background music), but it's forgettable. Also, it's moved so fast I don't see how they can fill the rest of the series.

This has been a disappointment to me after MSP and Moonlight Chicken - Gemini is playing his role so flat that I'm not really getting anything from him - I feel that he appreciates Atom's kindness, but I don't really see love, or even repressed feelings.