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LOL, I know, not too popular. For me it's not even close. Sarawat is handsome but comes off to me as dim, whereas Tine is much closer to my "type".

That was actually Yong Jie's 20th birthday - he's really young. As great a job the actor is doing, it might have been more effective to cast someone who looks 20. But he's 25 and the actor playing Xing Si is 26 - because they look the same age, I think it diminishes the sense of what why Xing Si thinks any relations between them are noncon by coersion due to his greater age and role as elder brother.

There's certainly a valid complaint to be made about how this series was marketed. I think there hasn't been much deception about the broadcast itself because they have very extensively labeled it with warnings. But I would certainly agree they lured a lot of people in that wouldn't have otherwise watched it.

Yes, but neither did this, and that's not what the argument was - it was that just showing negative things can influence people to do them. If you can be influenced to do something wrong by seeing an image of something wrong, then there's a deeper problem in play.

If you want a more mundane example, there are a lot of shows that make pyschopaths sympathetic anti-heroes, like Game of Thrones, Dexter, etc. That doen't cause people to adopt psychopathy as a lifestyle, because most people know the difference between right and wrong. Actually, almost all people know the difference - some just don't care.

Yes, but neither did this, and that's not what the argument was - it was that just showing negative things can influence people to do them. If you can be influenced to do something wrong by seeing an image of something wrong, then there's a deeper problem in play.

If you want a more mundane example, there are a lot of shows that make pyschopaths sympathetic anti-heroes, like Game of Thrones, Dexter, etc. That doen't cause people to adopt psychopathy as a lifestyle, because most people know the difference between right and wrong. Actually, almost all people know the difference - some just don't care.

There's nothing wrong with having a sex dream - even if you murder someone in a dream you've done nothing wrong.

The red lighting and smoke was there for a reason, and Li Cheng was running his hand all the way down Mu Ren's body. If he really did that, it's not right. I don't think he did, but even a dream about doing it disturbed him.

The music was also an indicator of the intention of that scene.

The way Mu Ren was touching himself was deliberately strange and violent, like he was tearing at an itch or compelled.

The scene was one of the best in this series, maybe one of the best ever, because it was so artfully assembled and so deeply layered, psychological, and dark.

That was actually very coherent and non-ranty. I really enjoy this series too, and I did not expect to after the first ep.

That is a beautiful thing to say, that must come from a beautiful person, but I don't think it's true. It is for 99% of people, but there are bad apples and they can't change - the sociopaths, and there appears to be a genetic element to that. I'm not sure anyone will ever fully understand the balance between nature and nurture, but there are people that are predatory and without empathy, compassion, or any constructive quality. Nobody has ever found a way to reform them, and your only defense is to steer clear of them - or if they're violent in dangerous, keep them away from society.

Yong Si is not a sociopath. He never lies, what he does is miguided but not malicious, and if he were evil he wouldn't be willing to sacrifice his own well-being for anyone else as he does without hesitation. Putting him in prison would destroy him and serve no purpose.

Just from my own experience with Asian corporations, he'd be transferred for the company to save face then quietly eliminated. That's how it's done. You can't make a mistake that big and still keep your career. He should be in prison, but the world isn't fair.

The acting in the bathtub scene was fantastic - like frigheningly realistic, but I think people are really missing that Li Cheng was touchingMu Ren in a transgressive way considering his state. It was just a dream, so he didn't necessarily really do that, but there is often a double standard - when people want a couple they'll overlook a lot more than they will for a couple they don't want.

The point of that scene was to show Li Cheng has feelings of guilt and shame associated with that night.

My theory is that the one that was angry is bad and will do something inappropriate - he did touch Maping in a suspect way early on. The other one has had plenty of opportunity to trangress, but he hasn't.

OMG.

I've always said I'm suspicious of that man. Straight guys are obviously not allowed in this town, so it's only a matter of time before Prab's mother is disappointed.

I did not see that coming at all. But it's definitely an insteresting route to take. (You should probably mark that as a spolier!)

Wow, another BL miracle happened: someone was feeling insecure, overreacted and behaved in an immature way causing a failure of communication, went away to go cool down for a couple of hours, then went back to apologize for being immature and talking it through.

Normally there would be montage of good times spend together to sad music, lots of shots of them sitting alone, and taking up 2-3 episodes for unnecessary sulking and pining.

It almost made the show's most boring couple interesting.

On the confusing side of things, why did Prab tell Chon he'd buy him dessert, then take him to a hardware store instead to buy a bunch of seriously random things they don't need?

I think the writer realized there are only four episodes left because there was more plot progression this ep than we usually see.

Normally a show that's this sweet and wholesome would make me nauseated, but somehow this works for me.

I might have misquoted it above - that still doesn't make too much sense, does it? I think it's supposed to be "I'll make it possible for you to come home". The way it's written means he'll give him permission to come home, which wouldn't make sense to me.

There is not a general consensus that a rape occurred. I and many others don't think he was anywhere near incapacitated, and I don't accept the idea that drunken sex is necessarily rape, and many others insist that consent is always impossible when drunk, which is not reasonable (it's reasonable to apply that standard for yourself, but not for all the rest of humanity). The next episode there's an unambiguous rape attempt, and it's a bit astonishing that so many people can't distinguish between the two scenes.

I think you should wait until more of it airs based on what you've said. I thought it was too silly in the first episode, but by the end of the fourth ep I think it's the best BL airing right now.

Unknown because only 4 or 10 eps have aired. So far it has not been portrayed as a fantasy romantic relationship with two guys that happen to be stepbrothers. Complex and fucked up with psychological exploration is a reasonable description.

That's what I said. 2 eps are aired together as one on Viki, so it's effectively 10 episodes. If you don't like the 20 listed here, then change it - you can.

A lot of these higher-end productions (in terms of budget and production values) is that they have layers of imagery that tend to stick with me more. Take ITSAY - I remember most of it, because every shot was a work of art. This story has some really strong images, and it's also quite a bit different than most BLs. I won't remember much of the cartoonish part of the side couple's relationship, but I'll never forget their bathtub scene.

I was being obnoxious - you asked a question with two options and I said "Yes". MDL is correct - there are twenty 24-minute episodes. On Viki and everywhere else it's broadcast, two of the 20 episodes are aired together as one 48-minute episode, hence the confusion. So in some places it's listed as twenty 24-min episodes, in other it's ten 48-min episodes. So there are six more 48-minute episodes.

The reason is that MDL listings are often created fairly far in advance of broadcast and then often not updated, Whereas a site like World of BL, which only covers BL, updates everything daily, so that's probably the best guide to things like this.

There was an unfortunate grammatical error in my post, but I think you understood it anyway. I think it's OK to complain - like once or twice in polite posts where you explain why you don't like it. I do that and people have changed my mind by pointing out things I missed.

What I don't understand is people combing the entire comments section to attack people for being pro-rape because they like a work of fiction. In history class when you get to WWII you are shown horrifying footage. As far as I know, nobody has become pro-genocide as a result, and those are things that really happened, not a comedy-romance about wedding planners.