it feels like a 12-year old girl's imagination about what masculinity is - cartoonishly violent and angry. If…
The confrontations between Winner's character and Pit Babe are ridiculous. Any mentally balanced person would crack up laughing at Winner's cartoonish attempts to provoke him, but instead he has to be held back by other people who are also not laughing at the silliness. That type of behavior is nearly ubiquitous in BL when someone is trying to portray machismo. It's not an issue of showing emotions, it's having no control over emotions, which is a stereotype applied to "alpha males".
Mhok can be violent, but it's in the defense of other people, not because people made a silly attempt to trigger him. I haven't seen any micro-aggression from him - I'm not sure what you mean. The only basis for microaggression would be the class difference or because Day is disabled and Mhok isn't, and he hasn't really done either - in fact, the only person I can think of who does is Day's mother, who is classist and doing things like looking Mhok up and down in obvious disapproval of his clothing.
Mhok teases Day a lot, but it's friendly, not aggresive, and Day teases him right back - it feels like authentic interaction between two guys, unlike most of Pit Babe's behavior, which is only saved by Pavel's first-rate acting or I'd really dislike him.
Not people still out here vilifying Way when he barely did anything in this episode. Can you let the man breathe…
I don't know if it's for nefarious purposes or if he means well, but Way is using his powers to influence Babe and sabotage his relationship with Charlie. That's very bad, even if he thinks he's doing the right thing.
I think what you're talking about is the "implausible misunderstanding" trope, which BL relies heavily on and is the surest sign of bad writing. When a misunderstanding is something that can be cleared up with a 10-second conversation and the conversations are written in an unbelievable way to avoid clearing it up, it's just frustrating and stupid, and makes the characters unsympathetic.
Also, It's ridiculous that Charlie puts his arm around Jeff like a lover solely when they're being watched and never touches him for any reason at any other time, just so someone can show up at exactly that moment to misunderstand. Rather than putting some thought and creativity into creating dramatic tension, the author is just lazy.
TBH, although I love everything about Pavel and really like the entire cast, I'm not sure I can get myself to watch another episode of this, although I'll probably fast-forward it for scenes of Pavel in a tank top (or less), because, well, you know.
I got it...I figured out why I can't stand Charlie...could he be more insincere? I don't buy any of the bullshit…
Way has mind control powers - he's able to influence people, and he uses it on Pit Babe a lot to get in the way of his relationship with Charlie.
Charlie is supposed to come off as insincere because he has a secret plan, although it couldn't be more obvious that it's a "good guy" plan to help Pit Babe, athough I would be blown away in surprise if it's not.
Totally agree about trigger warnings whenever Pavel is in a tank top. And they should distribute oxygen tanks for his shirtless scenes.
Or even, I don't know. Give them any kind of compelling romantic scenes in their own series where they are supposed…
How could you be so wrong? It's far more compelling to watch a car driving in a circle for 40 minutes with occassional shots of someone wearing a helmet that conceals half their face making a sour face (or at least I think so). Why would I want to see character development when I can watch people performing routine maintenance of cars? Romance is boring, Much better to spend time on minor characters that don't matter to the story, especially if we get to watch them send texts.
So after seeing this episode, I’m honestly liking more the novel than the series :(It’s more about how it’s…
Although I haven't read the novel nor have even the slightest interest in doing so, I agree with your general point, which is that this series is focusing on intensely boring things instead of the characters, which is a real pity given the very high level of acting ability in the cast. The only element of the story that's truly interesting, the superpowers, is minimized, which would probably be OK if it was done to focus more on the characters, but sadly, it's not.
I dont care what yall say I love Winner, hes so fkn annoying I love it
I like Winner, but in this he's too OTT, and unless he has the superpower of creating rage, it makes Pit Babe seem like an idiot that he lets himself be provoked instead of just laughing at the cartoonish attempts to make him angry.
Like fr, I reported her because I was enjoying this show so far and then I saw her stupid ass comment like why…
I know what you meant and I agree - I was making a joke, although what I said is true - BL parents are writers' favorite go-to to generate tragedy. It's amazing how many people in their 30s have fatal illnesses. As for villains, it's amazing how easily they get away with their crimes - all that's necessary is an apology. In He's Coming to Me, 1st degree murder of a family member for greed was excused with a contribution to charity, and Siew Sum Noi had a scene that was basically:
"I'm sorry I tried to beat your son to death for being gay."
"It's OK, he lived."
I think Way is still in danger because he's filling an "elder family member" role, but it's clear the series is not following the novel too closely, so novel spoilers aren't as serious as they could be.
I think I know who the spammer is - a mentally ill person who has been here under many names. I wouldn't worry about any of those spoilers - the series is not following the book and it's going to continue not to.
Anyway, I'm not sure about this series - Ep 4 was just tedious, and it feels like a 12-year old girl's imagination about what masculinity is - cartoonishly violent and angry. If you want to see mascuilinity done right, Last Twilight nails it, although it's not fair because they have Jimmy.
This episode was tedious and nothing really happened. It feels a little like the production is embarassed or shy about the supernatural elements and minimize them, when it's really the only thing that's interesting about the series. Well, other than Pavel's... everything. His looks are already supernatural, but he's also a fantastic actor, and anyone with less ability would make the character Pit Babe tiresome instead of compelling.
I ended up ff through almost all of this ep - it was that dull and predictable. You can tell a writer is bad when a huge amount of the plot hinges on a ridiculous misunderstanding that can be cleared up in 5 seconds - this thing with Charlie & Jeff is beyond stupid. And it's obvious who had Pit Babe attracked, and I imagine that will result in a huge dramatic confrontation later on.
Like fr, I reported her because I was enjoying this show so far and then I saw her stupid ass comment like why…
Actually, the death rate for the parents of BL characters is extremely high, lol. And grandparents? Nearly 100% death rate. The only thing that can save them is if they're evil, in which case they will not only live, but go completely unpunished for appalling crimes.
My theory: Night. We don't know why the antagonism (perhaps Night was somehow even partially responsible for Day's…
Now that you say it, I feel in my bones that your theory is correct. Night has had no real purpose in this drama so far and his character must exist for a reason, and that's likely it. "Night" and "Day" is a little to poetic a naming scheme to have without something dramatic happening.
Fear of rejection, fear of societal opprobrium, internalized homophobia. Or because the plot needed him to be.
Inexplicable resistance is a staple of BL for some reason - it's always kind of lame because there's no homophobia in BL Land and feels like a lazy contrivance. Writers have probably seen it in "real" LGBTQ media and in straight dramas where it's often driven by class difference and other more realistic forces and are just imitating it.
That is not a popular opinion. Although I agree with you. Winner is the best actor in this, IMO.
I'm honestly not sure if you're joking or not - Kenji is so bad it's embarassing. I imagine Tommy is likely attractive, but it's hard to tell under his clown suit.
Ping has occassional moments of good acting. Very occassional. And he's very cute. And Meen is stunning. That's about all I can say for this trainwreck.
Who came up with Kenji as a villain? I'd say he's cartoonish, but cartoons are better actors. I really don't feel any chemistry between Meen and Ping - TBH, there was way more between Wal & Guy.
Kenji looks a deranged John Lennon. He isn't the least bit frightening. It looks like he's threatening people…
Oh God, you all are on fire today - that's the second comment that made me cackle until i got the hiccups. That is the most perfect image. Oddly, he could also be described as a deranged Yoko Ono.
Mhok can be violent, but it's in the defense of other people, not because people made a silly attempt to trigger him. I haven't seen any micro-aggression from him - I'm not sure what you mean. The only basis for microaggression would be the class difference or because Day is disabled and Mhok isn't, and he hasn't really done either - in fact, the only person I can think of who does is Day's mother, who is classist and doing things like looking Mhok up and down in obvious disapproval of his clothing.
Mhok teases Day a lot, but it's friendly, not aggresive, and Day teases him right back - it feels like authentic interaction between two guys, unlike most of Pit Babe's behavior, which is only saved by Pavel's first-rate acting or I'd really dislike him.
I think what you're talking about is the "implausible misunderstanding" trope, which BL relies heavily on and is the surest sign of bad writing. When a misunderstanding is something that can be cleared up with a 10-second conversation and the conversations are written in an unbelievable way to avoid clearing it up, it's just frustrating and stupid, and makes the characters unsympathetic.
Also, It's ridiculous that Charlie puts his arm around Jeff like a lover solely when they're being watched and never touches him for any reason at any other time, just so someone can show up at exactly that moment to misunderstand. Rather than putting some thought and creativity into creating dramatic tension, the author is just lazy.
TBH, although I love everything about Pavel and really like the entire cast, I'm not sure I can get myself to watch another episode of this, although I'll probably fast-forward it for scenes of Pavel in a tank top (or less), because, well, you know.
Charlie is supposed to come off as insincere because he has a secret plan, although it couldn't be more obvious that it's a "good guy" plan to help Pit Babe, athough I would be blown away in surprise if it's not.
Totally agree about trigger warnings whenever Pavel is in a tank top. And they should distribute oxygen tanks for his shirtless scenes.
"I'm sorry I tried to beat your son to death for being gay."
"It's OK, he lived."
I think Way is still in danger because he's filling an "elder family member" role, but it's clear the series is not following the novel too closely, so novel spoilers aren't as serious as they could be.
Anyway, I'm not sure about this series - Ep 4 was just tedious, and it feels like a 12-year old girl's imagination about what masculinity is - cartoonishly violent and angry. If you want to see mascuilinity done right, Last Twilight nails it, although it's not fair because they have Jimmy.
This episode was tedious and nothing really happened. It feels a little like the production is embarassed or shy about the supernatural elements and minimize them, when it's really the only thing that's interesting about the series. Well, other than Pavel's... everything. His looks are already supernatural, but he's also a fantastic actor, and anyone with less ability would make the character Pit Babe tiresome instead of compelling.
I ended up ff through almost all of this ep - it was that dull and predictable. You can tell a writer is bad when a huge amount of the plot hinges on a ridiculous misunderstanding that can be cleared up in 5 seconds - this thing with Charlie & Jeff is beyond stupid. And it's obvious who had Pit Babe attracked, and I imagine that will result in a huge dramatic confrontation later on.
Who came up with Kenji as a villain? I'd say he's cartoonish, but cartoons are better actors. I really don't feel any chemistry between Meen and Ping - TBH, there was way more between Wal & Guy.