She finally showed her true self in the latter days of their marriage. I think he somehow envies her wanting independence…
@Sunbath12
I like how you drew him with details .. I agree ..
I LOVE how well he has been written .. and THANK GOD he's so complex with a myriad conflicts wracking him .. His LOVE and his IDEALS and his Loyalties are a darned sack FULL of holes .. that he barely manages to hold together.
LOVING the tension and depth this is creating in the Drama.
In my opinion, it's because of his ego. From the moment he saw that she despises him and doesn't want him, it…
BEWARE those who do NOT want LOADS of SPOILERS : The below stuff is after watching upto Episode 12 ;-D
I think he was indifferent to her .. she was only in the periphery of his life .. HOWEVER he has STRONG notions of 'what is proper and improper' societally .. For a bit he actually thought he was being 'proper and righteous' by NOT throwing out his wife (because a decent husband would NOT do something like that to his wife .. plus some genuine concern for her post-divorce plight as a woman in those times for sure).
He likes to think he is kind .. and of course he is . . although a simpleton in his understanding of what constitutes kind .. IMO kindness is more driven by empathy than a selfish desire to look upright to the world -which is what he seems to be focusing on at that point.
Later OF COURSE it confounds him when he learns that she HATES his weakness and his outcasting her from his life .. He's also deeply stricken by being caught in adulterous act .. and wants to recover some the respect he has lost .. by violently trying to subdue her .. How can he accept this wife who he THOUGHT was a snivelling scared obedient wimp be SO STRONG and POWERFUL emotionally and in character .. How can he live down the 'yamen-court' granting of divorce .. SHE ditching him in public .. he who is known as an upright noble of a respectable family.
BUT .. he also has enough reflection ability to recognise how admirable she is .. and I think DOES in some respect 'fall in love' with her .. albeit still selfishly and with a deep need to possess her rather than let her be free.
It's Li Xian's Jiang way though .. to let his 'birds' be free to fly and own the world .. He loves in that way.. I THINK ..
HE IS AMONGST THE BEST of 'double edged - complex - witty - player' ML characters I have seen in in Cdrama.
I AM SO praying Drama does NOT 'tone' him down - normalise him. He MUST retain his personality till the end .. even as we get to see various facets of him (both pleasant and not so above board) .. he must not become suddenly 'righteous and flat and leached' of the character quirks that makes him who he is.
Drama will lose it's spice and flavour.
LOVE FL's characterisation too .. THANK GOD she solves her own problems and fights her own battles and THANK GOD ML hardly ever swoops down to solve it for her .. His respectful distance as well as mildly amused attitude, yet confident in her abilities is delightful to watch.
Love what a court player ML is .. gently creating spaces where those who need to be trapped .. will be trapped .. the symbolism of the hiding fish IS sterling. It's his tongue in cheek engagements with everyone around him .. even his manservant doesn't always catch his meaning LMAO.
And the unique way the SML and SFL are being drawn .. they are AS interesting as the main OTP leads .. A good drama gives SOLIDITY and SUBSTANCE to the characters that prop up the tensions and story and organically grow the rest of the cast by their reactions and actions.
This DRAMA needs repeat watch to unpack ALL its treasure .. I feel like doing that even as we wait for new eps to drop.
The last 2 times I felt like doing that was while watching : ~ The Double ~ Will Love in Spring
Both deeply layered meaningfully crafted Dramas ..
Just the sort of DRAMA I think many of us were STARVED of last couple of months ..
Jiang Chang Yang's fake tears LOL He's so dramatic. I love him. So mysterious.
MILDLY SPOILERY :
HE IS AMONGST THE BEST of 'double edged - complex - witty - player' ML characters I have seen in in Cdrama.
I AM SO praying Drama does NOT 'tone' him down - normalise him. He MUST retain his personality till the end .. even as we get to see various facets of him (both pleasant and not so above board) .. he must not become suddenly 'righteous and flat and leached' of the character quirks that makes him who he is.
Drama will lose it's spice and flavour.
LOVE FL's characterisation too .. THANK GOD she solves her own problems and fights her own battles and THANK GOD ML hardly ever swoops down to solve it for her .. His respectful distance as well as mildly amused attitude, yet confident in her abilities is delightful to watch.
Love what a court player ML is .. gently creating spaces where those who need to be trapped .. will be trapped .. the symbolism of the hiding fish IS sterling. It's his tongue in cheek engagements with everyone around him .. even his manservant doesn't always catch his meaning LMAO.
And the unique way the SML and SFL are being drawn .. they are AS interesting as the main OTP leads .. A good drama gives SOLIDITY and SUBSTANCE to the characters that prop up the tensions and story and organically grow the rest of the cast by their reactions and actions.
This DRAMA needs repeat watch to unpack ALL its treasure .. I feel like doing that even as we wait for new eps to drop.
The last 2 times I felt like doing that was while watching : ~ The Double ~ Will Love in Spring
Both deeply layered meaningfully crafted Dramas ..
Just the sort of DRAMA I think many of us were STARVED of last couple of months ..
Agreed on the dialogues. It makes you pay attention. It’s 2 episodes today until Thursday. Friday, Saturday…
😁
I KNOW!!! I get such goosebumps with how much is unsaid and needs unpacking - yummy yummy. Tired of watching dramas where everything is blandly spelt out as though we can't infer.
The writers of dramas like that need lessons in "SHOW don't Tell" 🤣🤣
Is anyone else watching this in parallel with Moonlight Mystique?
My pull towards FP has swung me away from MM significantly 🫣🫣 (I feel so sad that Rui Rui was ditched SO quickly - nooooo. His shine has been scrubbed off 🥺🥺)
While MM turns to enter the flatlands and limp-lake.. FP is climbing up the Rocky Mountains - revealing some exhilarating views and fresh air.
The density of the dialogues - the wit and intelligence of the conversations - connotation heavy lines which make you sit up and listen with full attention...
A remarkable gem of a show that is bucking the predictability trend and weaving a rich brcoade of story - plot - characters... Each character is a piece of sequin studded for effect and structure..
How stingy that ONLY ONE episode is dropping daily.. A small tinge of "Dream of Splendor" but a totally different flavour inspite of similar setting...and THE MOST interesting ML character (and SML who bucks the rut of usual drama sidey role) and SFL TOO - she isn't the The Double's psycho Princess but is as complex as the SML.
💯💯💯💯 REWATCH for me.. Just to SAVOUR the dialogues and the quixotic ML..
YUMMILICIOUS all the way till now A 10/10 for now.
yeah same with me, like in this series they went into an illusion and in tteotm they went into a dream of a dragon.…
Hmmm!
It was interesting - but not potent or gut wrenching or even SOLID and important for the building the stairway to character evolution / story building or a core engine for moving the drama and pulling the viewers along in total emotional engagement.
This is just my opinion - please don't feel offended.. Am.sure it out worked for other viewers very strongly..😇
reminded a bit in some aspects but I think TTEOTM is way darker
🫠🙈🫶🏼
Will I be kicked and cussed out of the thread if I say that MM is fast losing or already lost it's core...and is fast disintegrating 😅🙈
Unlike TTEOTM whose story knitting and characters were several notches more complex - edgy - emotionally riveting... The dialogues double edged.. Always something lurking that is unpredictable.. Multiple events unfolding within plot twists.
The mystery is gone - the focus lost - everything's all transparent.. The Solutions to problems are ALL deux ex machina 😬
I like how you drew him with details ..
I agree ..
I LOVE how well he has been written .. and THANK GOD he's so complex with a myriad conflicts wracking him .. His LOVE and his IDEALS and his Loyalties are a darned sack FULL of holes .. that he barely manages to hold together.
LOVING the tension and depth this is creating in the Drama.
The below stuff is after watching upto Episode 12
;-D
I think he was indifferent to her .. she was only in the periphery of his life .. HOWEVER he has STRONG notions of 'what is proper and improper' societally ..
For a bit he actually thought he was being 'proper and righteous' by NOT throwing out his wife (because a decent husband would NOT do something like that to his wife .. plus some genuine concern for her post-divorce plight as a woman in those times for sure).
He likes to think he is kind .. and of course he is . . although a simpleton in his understanding of what constitutes kind .. IMO kindness is more driven by empathy than a selfish desire to
look upright to the world -which is what he seems to be focusing on at that point.
Later OF COURSE it confounds him when he learns that she HATES his weakness and his outcasting her from his life .. He's also deeply stricken by being caught in adulterous act .. and wants to recover some the respect he has lost .. by violently trying to subdue her .. How can he accept this wife who he THOUGHT was a snivelling scared obedient wimp be SO STRONG and POWERFUL emotionally and in character .. How can he live down the 'yamen-court' granting of divorce .. SHE ditching him in public .. he who is known as an upright noble of a respectable family.
BUT .. he also has enough reflection ability to recognise how admirable she is .. and I think DOES in some respect 'fall in love' with her .. albeit still selfishly and with a deep need to possess her rather than let her be free.
It's Li Xian's Jiang way though .. to let his 'birds' be free to fly and own the world .. He loves in that way.. I THINK ..
Let's see how it all unfolds ..
Cant wait ;-p
Just my opinion .. that too is a DRAMA on SO MANY layers and layers of buildup .. It begs to be watched and rewatched ..
In KDrama :
~ Branding in Seongsu
~ Bloody Heart
~ Red Sleeves
HE IS AMONGST THE BEST of 'double edged - complex - witty - player' ML characters I have seen in in Cdrama.
I AM SO praying Drama does NOT 'tone' him down - normalise him.
He MUST retain his personality till the end .. even as we get to see various facets of him (both pleasant and not so above board) .. he must not become suddenly 'righteous and flat and leached' of the character quirks that makes him who he is.
Drama will lose it's spice and flavour.
LOVE FL's characterisation too .. THANK GOD she solves her own problems and fights her own battles and THANK GOD ML hardly ever swoops down to solve it for her .. His respectful distance as well as mildly amused attitude, yet confident in her abilities is delightful to watch.
Love what a court player ML is .. gently creating spaces where those who need to be trapped .. will be trapped .. the symbolism of the hiding fish IS sterling.
It's his tongue in cheek engagements with everyone around him .. even his manservant doesn't always catch his meaning LMAO.
And the unique way the SML and SFL are being drawn .. they are AS interesting as the main OTP leads .. A good drama gives SOLIDITY and SUBSTANCE to the characters that prop up the tensions and story and organically grow the rest of the cast by their reactions and actions.
This DRAMA needs repeat watch to unpack ALL its treasure .. I feel like doing that even as we wait for new eps to drop.
The last 2 times I felt like doing that was while watching :
~ The Double
~ Will Love in Spring
Both deeply layered meaningfully crafted Dramas ..
Just the sort of DRAMA I think many of us were STARVED of last couple of months ..
HE IS AMONGST THE BEST of 'double edged - complex - witty - player' ML characters I have seen in in Cdrama.
I AM SO praying Drama does NOT 'tone' him down - normalise him.
He MUST retain his personality till the end .. even as we get to see various facets of him (both pleasant and not so above board) .. he must not become suddenly 'righteous and flat and leached' of the character quirks that makes him who he is.
Drama will lose it's spice and flavour.
LOVE FL's characterisation too .. THANK GOD she solves her own problems and fights her own battles and THANK GOD ML hardly ever swoops down to solve it for her .. His respectful distance as well as mildly amused attitude, yet confident in her abilities is delightful to watch.
Love what a court player ML is .. gently creating spaces where those who need to be trapped .. will be trapped .. the symbolism of the hiding fish IS sterling.
It's his tongue in cheek engagements with everyone around him .. even his manservant doesn't always catch his meaning LMAO.
And the unique way the SML and SFL are being drawn .. they are AS interesting as the main OTP leads .. A good drama gives SOLIDITY and SUBSTANCE to the characters that prop up the tensions and story and organically grow the rest of the cast by their reactions and actions.
This DRAMA needs repeat watch to unpack ALL its treasure .. I feel like doing that even as we wait for new eps to drop.
The last 2 times I felt like doing that was while watching :
~ The Double
~ Will Love in Spring
Both deeply layered meaningfully crafted Dramas ..
Just the sort of DRAMA I think many of us were STARVED of last couple of months ..
Just brilliant he is
Kisses?
Checking this writer's work now that I am LOVING her Flourished Peony Script ;-p
HOW PROLIFIC she is at such a young age ..
Lovely.
I'd love to hear how it turns out for you.
I've put on hold for now ;-p
I SWEAR .. That is EXACTLY what I am hoping it won't do ..
Fingers of hands and feet are crossed along with arms and legs LOL
I KNOW!!! I get such goosebumps with how much is unsaid and needs unpacking - yummy yummy.
Tired of watching dramas where everything is blandly spelt out as though we can't infer.
The writers of dramas like that need lessons in "SHOW don't Tell" 🤣🤣
Thanks.
Will look at the sced.
In the meantime - FP has started to drop 2 a day ala MM
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My pull towards FP has swung me away from MM significantly 🫣🫣
(I feel so sad that Rui Rui was ditched SO quickly - nooooo. His shine has been scrubbed off 🥺🥺)
While MM turns to enter the flatlands and limp-lake..
FP is climbing up the Rocky Mountains - revealing some exhilarating views and fresh air.
The density of the dialogues - the wit and intelligence of the conversations - connotation heavy lines which make you sit up and listen with full attention...
A remarkable gem of a show that is bucking the predictability trend and weaving a rich brcoade of story - plot - characters... Each character is a piece of sequin studded for effect and structure..
How stingy that ONLY ONE episode is dropping daily..
A small tinge of "Dream of Splendor" but a totally different flavour inspite of similar setting...and THE MOST interesting ML character (and SML who bucks the rut of usual drama sidey role) and SFL TOO - she isn't the The Double's psycho Princess but is as complex as the SML.
💯💯💯💯 REWATCH for me.. Just to SAVOUR the dialogues and the quixotic ML..
YUMMILICIOUS all the way till now
A 10/10 for now.
You still enjoying it?
I am dithering a lot since last 2-3 eps
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It was interesting - but not potent or gut wrenching or even SOLID and important for the building the stairway to character evolution / story building or a core engine for moving the drama and pulling the viewers along in total emotional engagement.
This is just my opinion - please don't feel offended..
Am.sure it out worked for other viewers very strongly..😇
Will I be kicked and cussed out of the thread if I say that MM is fast losing or already lost it's core...and is fast disintegrating 😅🙈
Unlike TTEOTM whose story knitting and characters were several notches more complex - edgy - emotionally riveting... The dialogues double edged.. Always something lurking that is unpredictable.. Multiple events unfolding within plot twists.
The mystery is gone - the focus lost - everything's all transparent.. The Solutions to problems are ALL deux ex machina 😬
Sigh!
Am almost fingering FFD on my remote 🫣
Am spoiler tagging this and hiding 🤫🤫
🙈🙈
It's clashing a lot in my head.
Google threw up nada.
Changed the search to "decoration"
So wondering what is this word that the translators used?