I can totally understand some fans being upset but sadly there are also many so called "fans" using this…
I'm also a MA fan, and saying that the majority of people are giving constructive criticism is very disingenuous. Sane and mature people on a platform built with trolls, ragebaiter, and immature people are a minority and we all know that. If you and your group of moots were respectful, I'm glad, but all I saw yesterday was people being extremely rude, borderline harassing the creators, and complaining over and over about the series by bringing it down. A lot of MA fans are rude, and like Esha said, it's high time to call them out because even if the reasons behind this rage are "reasonable" the way they go about it is absolutely not. "none of us are taking it out on the artists or the series" Pond and Ning are artists too, and the way a lot of MA fans treated them is disgusting. That wasn't constructive criticism, that was plain hate and harassment.
The way the fire kept getting worse why was Ning saying Trin was in love with Victor?😭
Edit: She posted and clarified that she didn't mean it that way, that wavering feeling she mentioned was not of romantic nature, but human because of their differences. I don't know if she worded it bad, there was a misunderstanding/mistranslation or she's only addressing it because of the hate she's getting. Either way, all i care about is what made it in the series, which is pond/apo direction, so nothing was ruined for me. https://x.com/NingBhanbhassa/status/1971195073997176934
The way the fire kept getting worse why was Ning saying Trin was in love with Victor?😭
I mean never mind in the sense that you don't need to share the link because i've already seen it lol Anyway, from what i could gather Pond said that the whole team interpretation is different regarding some things but both him and Apo had the same interpretation of his relationship with Victor and in the end it was the actor's call to interpret him as he saw fit so what ning said in this regard really holds no stand in the series, it is rather an interpretation that didn't see the light. She should have definitely worded the whole thing better instead of making us believe that we were wrong. Very disappointed in her, she should have known better.
The way the fire kept getting worse why was Ning saying Trin was in love with Victor?😭
Nevermind, both pond and apo addressed it and to me their vision is the only one that matters because that's what is being portrayed. In the end, even Peter said in the same conference that what Victor had was a one-sided lov,e which means that's canon, Ning can go and write some fanfics in her spare time lol
Same same! id re-watch if only Shine twt wasnt the mess it is currently
Other companies should take boc as an example (at least in this aspect) because a lot of these productions are often ruined by them trying to fit what fans would like to see on screen rather than what's most true to the story. Art is being sacrificed for trends and money, and instead of encouraging companies trying to distance themselves from this mindset, people reprimand them. Bl fans do not deserve shine.
Same same! id re-watch if only Shine twt wasnt the mess it is currently
Art is so much more than the number of minutes a couple is on screen. And honestly i applaud pond and the whole team for not selling out the sincerity of their art for the satisfaction of people who will never be satisfied. Listening to fans' requests would have ruined the beauty of this show.
Dhevi was really a master manipulator, because not only did she do what she did, butn till the end she used her own family to threaten Krailert and all the people dear to him, when we know for a fact that her brothers vehemently refused to help Krailert, even though she was the one asking, possibly suggesting that she had no real power over them and therefore eloping with naran was a viable possibility. Meaning that she, in fact, was the only obstacle. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but now that I've rewatched it, that's the idea I've got.
I was one of those who said that Trin should've apologised, but I liked your perspective as I see people villainising…
I think you have a pretty good understanding tho. And about Podeum, i believe he was just a son of its time, a father that cared and loved deeply but made all of the wrong decisions to show him, maybe because he was also brought up like that or maybe because the pain and trauma of losing his wife made him like that. I am not saying that he didn't abuse Thanwa nor am i trying to excuse him, but because this was set in a much different time, where violence was seen as an educational method, i'm trying to cut him some slacks and not judge him through today's lenses. Anyway, there is so much depth in all these characters and that's what makes this show so interesting, we are tired of stereotypes and cliches.
I was one of those who said that Trin should've apologised, but I liked your perspective as I see people villainising…
Imo there was no need to see more of trin's pov because by episode 8 people should have had a grasp of his character and who he is. Therefore, not understanding why the made the choice he did just proves to me that there's been a lack of media literacy throughout the series. Regarding the screentime I believe it was fair to the story, I know that couple stans would have loved to see more of them but it wasn't really necessary to me, like it was with krailert, and adding another episode stretching the content of the episode to show more of them would have made the finale feel like a special or a filler. Anyway these are just my thoughts, thank you for sharing yours as well!
"Boc hates women" they literally created Moira one of the best representation of women i've ever seen…
What I want her to do is go back in time and leave that gay man alone. I find very disingenuous your argument about win because him rejecting to run away with win has still nothing to do with him being forced to marry a woman because of her own selfish desire and win being killed because he was an obstacle to the path that dhevi and her father chose for him. Btw divorces were a thing at that time and since she is a privileged and powerful woman she would have been alright in the long run, but she chose to ruin a man's life till the end for her own selfishness and prioritize her and her family image.
I saw many people across all platforms complaining that Trin didn't apologize, wasn't going to help/ talk to Thanwa, but honestly, I preferred it that way. Like Trin said, Thanwa had some healing to do, and Trin couldn't help him with that. When they finally reunited, the apologies were unnecessary, and so were the words they would have spoken to each other at that time. Communication is important, but so is silence sometimes, especially when it provides space for the people involved to process their emotions and organize their thoughts.
I agree. And as for the child, I don't think it's Krailert's son.
Imo it is Krailert's son, she's too obsessed with him and the idea of their perfect little family to go with someone else. Even when we saw her being sexually frustrated, she didn't go with Veera.
"none of us are taking it out on the artists or the series" Pond and Ning are artists too, and the way a lot of MA fans treated them is disgusting. That wasn't constructive criticism, that was plain hate and harassment.
https://x.com/NingBhanbhassa/status/1971195073997176934
Regarding the screentime I believe it was fair to the story, I know that couple stans would have loved to see more of them but it wasn't really necessary to me, like it was with krailert, and adding another episode stretching the content of the episode to show more of them would have made the finale feel like a special or a filler. Anyway these are just my thoughts, thank you for sharing yours as well!