I really hate it wen Chinese drama changes the gender of a character coz of their strict censor rules.. making…
You do know that Chinese dramas OFTEN change characters gender, right? Not only due to censorship. For instance, Swordsman 2012 changed the gender of Dongfang Bubai from male to female, and it was not even the first time an adaptation of the original novel (which is a CLASSIC Jin Yong novel, having been translated to 30s languages!) did it. Second, how does Shi Mei's gender swap affect the dynamics since the character won't be the end game anyway?
I've felt that this novel fandom is probably the loudest, most insecure, and most demanding, entitled bunch. I'll…
Supposedly they'll finish shooting in about two weeks. Historical/costume dramas normally take longer time for post production, about 6 months or so. Let's hope they get the license to air by the time they complete the post production process. I figure they're aiming at summer next year for airing time. But we'll see unless the Chinese gov't has some big celebration like last year, when the patriotic dramas were given priorities.
I want to express again that I am cautiously optimistic for this drama, & by that I mean although I know it won't…
I've felt that this novel fandom is probably the loudest, most insecure, and most demanding, entitled bunch. I'll be honest, I don't care if the drama will be faithful to the original, as I'll watch it for the actors (I'm not a BL fan, but the actors fan) and hopefully it will turn out to be a great production. It's tiring to read continuous complaints and demands when they haven't even finished shooting. Also, please, feeling victim, anyone? Most dramas will not be --like you said -- a mirror copy of the novels. Not only because of censorship, but also heloooo??? Creative liberty! The novel fans should consider themselves lucky that the producers didn't change the original OTP from the book like many, MANY other novels had experienced, regardless of the genre! I've also never seen sooo many leaks like this one -- and at a point the paps caused delay in filming process, even costing a crew member his job. Just recently some idiots also spread rumor and smeared Chen Yao, due to those unfounded rumors. Thankfully the filming will end soon, and here's hoping there will be some peace afterwards.
So, in short , literally, nobody has a clear idea about the ending, budget got pulled in between, plot went down…
Can't speak for others, but for myself this show isn't merely about the ending. I base my judgment (that it's one of the best wuxia in recent years) on overall production, character writing, plot, acting, etc. Wuxia is my preferred genre, and it's been difficult to find decent ones in recent years, unless it's another Jin Yong or Gu Long adaptations. (And even a lot of them sucked, sadly). I also like that characters are multidimensional, the villains actually have brains for the most part of the show, and the ML has! flaws! I agree that editing should've been tighter, particularly in the last episode.
The show is rated 8,2 on Douban, which is high for a wuxia (the only other historical getting a Douban above 8 this year so far is Ancient Detective). I'm not saying that Douban rate is the most correct one, because different taste, different take. But just to give another perspective of the show's reception. For the record, the Chinese audience is very critical of their own production. They tend to be more generous rating dramas/movies from other countries than their own. Also nowadays it looks like modern dramas have been getting more favor than historical. (Which I understand quite opposite from international audience, who prefer Chinese historical than their modern dramas LOL. But IMO that's because the better modern Cdramas rarely get subbed).
Zero promotion, of course, doesn't have anything to do with show's quality.
Congratulations, Joy of Life, for the multiple nominations in the Magnolia Awards, including Best Drama, Best Lead Actor, Best Director, and Best Adapted Screenplay!
I thinkt hsi drama was really different from other dramas for me It was really different like they are scxenes…
I'm sorry the drama doesn't work for you. I truly have an amazing time when watching it raw, and I'm now rewatching the subbed ones on YT, as well as planning to rewatch again on Lan Lan's channel :D
Head over to YouTube, it's on Tencent Video channel. Available in 3 languages, but you can pick any one, then auto-translate it to English (if you don't speak either of the languages: Indonesian, Vietnamese, Thai)
it do not deserve more than 8.2 ..if i say 8.2 it will end 7.8, Its high rating because of initial episode of…
It is a lot better than the majority in its genre in 2020, and based on other aspects, to me it deserves 9. Not sure if you paid attention, but her signature fighting scene is on episode 12 when she won the Zhengyang Alliance sword competition. She still fights all the way until ep 43.
I’m going to have to offer a differing opinion here. I’ve listed some of the biggest problems I’ve had with…
"I think many of the comments reflected disappointment that it didn't end on a high note but forget to caveat that the drama is still a good one." >>> It was exactly why I made this specific comment. I've seen it before how some people are hesitant to give the drama a try because of the discussions about plot holes etc lol. The lack of English subbing on public spaces doesn't help :))). Lan Lan is subbing it, but she does it in a close group.
Agree, people tend to give low rate to a drama if it's BE, even if the BE is told in a very beautiful way and is actually the logical conclusion. There are exceptions (like Goodbye My Princess? And perhaps Rise of the Phoenixes -- where BE is widely acceptable to the audience), but quite rare.
I’m going to have to offer a differing opinion here. I’ve listed some of the biggest problems I’ve had with…
You're most welcome to offer differing opinion! I understand your points, as I've been following them too. I'm not arguing against them. I wrote below that I acknowledge there are loose threads, choppy story telling in the last part. But personally they don't bother me and they don't really ruin my overall experience in watching this drama. Since there is quite lengthy conversation about the ending (mostly in disappointed tone), I feel the need to voice my positive view so other people won't conclude that this is a bad drama not worthy to watch. I've seen instances of pretty good dramas being avoided just because some people complain about the end (mostly the unhappy ending LOL) in the forum.
I've watched the final ep and honestly to me it does NOT look bad, and I'm actually happy with it. I get that there has been high expectation for the ending because, despite its flaws, the drama in general delivers. IMO it's miles better than the majority of historical Cdramas in 2020, including some audience favorites and the big budget, star-studded ones. It's 9/10 for me, for the great ride throughout 43 episodes :)
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The show is rated 8,2 on Douban, which is high for a wuxia (the only other historical getting a Douban above 8 this year so far is Ancient Detective). I'm not saying that Douban rate is the most correct one, because different taste, different take. But just to give another perspective of the show's reception. For the record, the Chinese audience is very critical of their own production. They tend to be more generous rating dramas/movies from other countries than their own. Also nowadays it looks like modern dramas have been getting more favor than historical. (Which I understand quite opposite from international audience, who prefer Chinese historical than their modern dramas LOL. But IMO that's because the better modern Cdramas rarely get subbed).
Zero promotion, of course, doesn't have anything to do with show's quality.
Agree, people tend to give low rate to a drama if it's BE, even if the BE is told in a very beautiful way and is actually the logical conclusion. There are exceptions (like Goodbye My Princess? And perhaps Rise of the Phoenixes -- where BE is widely acceptable to the audience), but quite rare.