littlebluemonster

I honestly don't know anymore hahaha

Yeap, I noticed it too. At first I thought it was just to give the sense of secrecy about their relationship. Because they had to keep it in the dark, quite literally. But as the conflict between them becomes more evident, this dark lighting brings on an ominous vibe. It even adds on that mysteriousness and suspicion between them. And yes, they always nearly get caught when it's bright, as if hinting that their relationship can never see the day of light 🙃

I understand how Tanwa may come off as a j*rk and annoying to some people, especially with his antics and the way he's unintentionally hurting Trin sometimes. To look at it from a third-person pov, it's easy to say that Trin deserves someone better or someone who can provide emotional stability like Victor.

Here's my 2 cents on Tanwa's character. Tanwa is no perfect character. In fact, none of them are, including LertRan. But Tanwa is the most broken character out of them. He's the most fragile one. He may put on this dgaf attitude, but he probably cares the most. But he chooses not to because once he cares, he cares a lot and it might become overwhelming, or he will end up getting hurt. This whole carefree way-of-life feels more like a coping mechanism. Actually, I think it IS his coping mechanism. Because if he didn't choose this path, he might end up choosing his mother's.

The more we see Tanwa, the more I have a soft spot for him. He's so broken that I hope Trin will love him so much and have the patience to help him piece himself back together. Tanwa probably doesn't know how to love people the way Trin does, but he's loving Trin so much in his own quirky way and has done so much to make Trin find happiness again. But has anyone helped him find his happiness? Tanwa has masked his sadness and pain so much that people believe he's actually happy and doesn't give a hoot about anything else. But the way he stays silent after Trin calls him out every time just hurts to watch. There's so much pain written on his face.

I think Tanwa's actually a really sweet person. He's nice to people who are nice to him. He doesn't judge. He just wants to be happy. He just wants EVERYONE to be happy. I honestly didn't expect to love Tanwa's character so much. If Tanwa gets a sad ending, that'd seriously break me. I really hope Trin doesn't give up on Tanwa yet. Trin probably isn't the kind who'd fall in and out of love so easily, but to have the patience to build a relationship with someone like Tanwa is also not easy. Trin's frustration with Tanwa is valid, but to say Tanwa is undeserving of Trin's love is also not fair.

Well said. I hope more people realize this about Tanwa.

It happens with hetero-romance dramas too, though. Even for kdramas. And not just fanwars over couples, but fanwars over ML and 2ML as well.

In one of the interviews (not sure how serious they were about it 😂), they said it's coz acoustic sounds simpler, while an orchestra ensemble has EVERYTHING. Lolol

THIS!!!! 😭😭😭

Tanwa is a complex character so he needs more time to grow as a character. It wouldn't make sense if he changed so quickly. Try looking at things from Tanwa's point of view. I hate seeing Trin get hurt, but Tanwa also has a lot of emotional baggage that he needs to deal with first. He doesn't realize that his actions, which are probably his coping mechanism, are hurting Trin. He doesn't want Trin to bear his pain because he himself doesn't wanna bear them either. All these emotions are too much for Tanwa to face, but at least Trin is slowly urging him to face reality. They are both very different people, so if they wanna make things work, this is what they have to go through.

Trin loves Tanwa, and if he chooses Tanwa, it doesn't matter if Victor would treat him better or not.

He's just disgusting. He deserves all the hate Tanwa, or anyone, has for him.

Tanwa and Victor's challenge:
Say you're competing for Trin without saying you're competing for Trin 😂😂

I agree. Major props to Mile for that scene. Tanwa was filled with pain, anger, sarcasm, hate, but masked them just enough so that his jokes and laughs aren't overdone and come across as caricature. Seriously, that scene was actually difficult to watch because it was emotionally overwhelming. And him asking for more slaps just feels like he wants physical pain to numb his emotional pain.

I don't think so. Moira doesn't seem that fond of Tanwa's father either though. Notice how she slightly shook her head as he left. And I don't think Moira would like a man like him. She knows she deserves better.

Now, Ep5 had so many things happening! First, because all this while I was worrying that Naran would be the one getting killed, now I wonder if Lert and Ran are both gonna be facing the same fate....... That threat was scary. And if people find out Lert's cheating on his wife with a man.....I doubt Dheevi's family is gonna look the other way. They're gonna make him suffer or just off him since he's no longer useful. LertRan seriously has this ominous vibe lurking around them and it's only getting stronger each episode now... 🫠

Also, Dheevi and Veera!!! Omg so cute. But I do wonder if Veera actually ends up marrying Dheevi, he's gonna be the next Khailert, having to clean up all the dirty work and probably get his hands dirty himself. Would Veera be someone who's capable of doing that? I honestly feel that he actually might be. Sure, he seems like a nice sweet guy, but who knows? He might just be sweet when it comes to Dheevi and he seems loyal to Lert now, but he might actually turn out to be more ruthless than Lert.

And then we have poor Victor trying so hard to charm Trin. Hahahaha. To be honest, it was cute. Though I loved his dynamics with Trin more when they were debating about politics and social issues. I think that's when their dynamics shone the most. That's Trin and Victor's special thing. But now he's just one corner of a triangle. Maybe this could just be the calm before the storm though. Things could turn 180 after this since the military has made a move to shut people up. And since they stopped the press from publishing the village chief's "accident", I assume Trin and Victor and the rest still have no idea. But imagine what happens when they find out.....

"If you keep fighting till the end, you'll get to sit beside them."

I like what Trin's other uncle said. It echoes what Trin and Tanwa are going through. I don't know if they'll be able to meet each other halfway in the end, but if they do make things work between them, then that's one strong bond they've built. I hope what the uncle said is a foreshadow that Trin and Tanwa will end up together.

I love how Trin keeps calling Tanwa out for being a j*rk to him. The way Tanwa was in such a bad mood after the incident with his father shows that he knows he messed up things with Trin, but he doesn't know how exactly he messed up and how to fix it. That's why he needs Trin to call him out on that, so that he can realize it and learn.

Trin has been in a serious relationship, while Tanwa probably hasn't. Since the first episode, we've seen Tanwa influencing Trin, but now we see Tanwa changing as well, caring about the things he never cared about. He's in a bad mood and worrying, instead of being the carefree person he's supposed to be. And all this is because of Trin.

Their behaviors are also very in character. Tanwa is basically running away every time things get tough. He doesn't like facing his negative emotions. Trin, on the other hand, confronts things every time. He doesn't shy away, whether it was him figuring out his sexual orientation or these problems between him and Tanwa. This is a callback to their conversation in the very first episode, where Tanwa asked Trin if he ever ran away from anything. Trin's expression shows confidence and not an ounce of hesitance, hinting that he's not the type to run. Then he asked Tanwa back the same question, to which Tanwa replied, "I lost count." Trin asked if he ever succeeded, and Tanwa said, "I don't know. I don't care."

I think what we might find out next, is if Tanwa cares this time. Will he continue to choose to run away, or will his love for Trin be stronger than his fear to face reality?

Tanwa's got a tall, thick wall around him. Opening up to Trin about his mother was a huge step, but when his father showed up, Tanwa took 10 steps back, if not 20. Trin's gonna need a lot of patience to break down that wall, and I feel bad for Trin as much as I feel bad for Tanwa. Because you can tell both of them clearly love each other and they are happy being with each other. You can see Tanwa also trying hard in his own way to show that he loves Trin. But Trin is right. Tanwa shouldn't just leave him hanging like this.

Despite their disagreements, I still really love their scenes together. I like that the origamis never stopped and Trin is still getting one from Tanwa each episode. And Trin teasing Tanwa so much this episode is just SO CUTE!!! I really hope things can work out between them. Honestly, I even like this whole challenging road they're on to building a relationship. Because they may have disagreements, but they're also communicating and voicing their feelings, which is important. It's so much better than bottling up everything and not talking to each other.

Whether or not they end up together and have a happy ending, Trin-Tanwa still has my heart. ‪‪❤︎‬

Tanwa getting caught by Lert was hilarious!!!! Also not sure if Dheevi was playing cupid? 👀 But thank you, Dheevi, for helping Tanwa. Lol. And Tanwa climbing back out that gate got me choking on my coffee and his cute little "Bye bye" 😂🤣😂🤣

Tanwa is seriously the one with the most emotional baggage, yet he's our comic relief. Sometimes I even feel bad for laughing at him knowing how much pain he's actually masking, but he's just too funny LOL

I've seen the official teaser. I've watched Pond's interview. And no, just because a character feels like it's made for an actor, it doesn't mean the actor just has to be themselves. It just means it aligns with the actor's charisma, skills, appearance, etc.

I think Tanwa already fits that androgynous style, but in your initial comment, I got the impression that you don't think he had it, and compared him to another main protagonist in another movie. That's why I said Tanwa is Tanwa. Still, I think whether one is androgynous or not is subjective, and again, how androgynous one must be is also subjective. That's my point. Perhaps I failed to convey that in my previous comment.

"Making weird faces and beefing with a student, how does that match up to his 70s renowned popstar character with a wealthy political family background? "

Regarding your comment on this, there's no benchmark on how a renowned popstar with wealthy political family background should act. Tanwa is playful. And he's making weird faces and beefing with Victor only because Victor is getting close to Trin, so he's playfully trying to make Victor to back off. He's not doing that to appear rebellious. Also, I don't know how Mile is in real life. All this time, I'm just talking about Tanwa's character and how Mile played Tanwa as an actor.

I feel the opposite though. I feel that the role of Tanwa was made for Mile. I actually think his acting has improved a lot in this compared to when he played Kinn. And in fact, Kinn wasn't a two-dimensional character, but it also wasn't as complex as Tanwa. And for Mile to be able to balance that hidden pain and nonchalant, mysterious attitude of Tanwa so well here means he's doing a good job. At least I think he is.

I also never felt that Tanwa's character came off as "slutty". We also don't see him fooling around THAT much to be considered "slutty". He just likes flirting and teasing people, and that is his charismatic personality because he doesn't do it in an offensive way, especially judging by people's reactions when he flirts with or teases them. People (except Victor) DO adore him.

I also feel that thinking Tanwa should have "a beautiful androgynous appearance" is putting him in a box. Tanwa is Tanwa. He's not some other character from another story and he doesn't have to be like them. Tanwa has his own story and his own charms that fit into Shine.

I've always felt that Trin fell for Tanwa's charisma and personality, not so much about his appearance. But of course, Tanwa's good looks and charming smile definitely scored him many points and caught Trin's attention at first. But it was Tanwa's thinking and attitude toward life that intrigued Trin. Whether or not Tanwa has to look androgynous really doesn't matter to me. Tanwa could charm anyone if he wanted to. Apo also definitely did an amazing job playing Trin, because it's written all over Trin's face that he's in love with Tanwa.

Yep! I really love Trin and Victor's student-professor friendship. They are both ambitious and share the same goal. I also believe they are both sincere in wanting to help the people. If Trin and Victor work together, they can build a path to a better future.

Second everything you said too, but also, it's crazy how I hadn't seen this reply of yours and replied to another comment you had on Victor, and said the exact same thing!!! "he is much more than just a third wheel. " 😆😆

And yes, I think LertRan's coded words through the books was super cute!! That's why I feel that Ep3 was their moment, but that momentum unfortunately didn't carry on into Ep4. Instead, it was overshadowed by too much NC scenes. Maybe if they had one more episode to flesh out their non-sexual interactions and also space out their NC moments, their NC scenes might not have felt so shoehorned like it did in Ep4.

Omg, this. I can't see the chemistry between Trin and Victor, although seeing Victor struggling with his one-sided crush alone was cute and funny 😆 but I also like his character and the color he brings to the story. If the writers made him turn bad, they'd be doing his character so dirty! Victor can be so much more than just a spiteful third-wheel.