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I don't think so. Moira doesn't seem that fond of Tanwa's father either though. Notice how she slightly shook her head as he left. And I don't think Moira would like a man like him. She knows she deserves better.

Now, Ep5 had so many things happening! First, because all this while I was worrying that Naran would be the one getting killed, now I wonder if Lert and Ran are both gonna be facing the same fate....... That threat was scary. And if people find out Lert's cheating on his wife with a man.....I doubt Dheevi's family is gonna look the other way. They're gonna make him suffer or just off him since he's no longer useful. LertRan seriously has this ominous vibe lurking around them and it's only getting stronger each episode now... 🫠

Also, Dheevi and Veera!!! Omg so cute. But I do wonder if Veera actually ends up marrying Dheevi, he's gonna be the next Khailert, having to clean up all the dirty work and probably get his hands dirty himself. Would Veera be someone who's capable of doing that? I honestly feel that he actually might be. Sure, he seems like a nice sweet guy, but who knows? He might just be sweet when it comes to Dheevi and he seems loyal to Lert now, but he might actually turn out to be more ruthless than Lert.

And then we have poor Victor trying so hard to charm Trin. Hahahaha. To be honest, it was cute. Though I loved his dynamics with Trin more when they were debating about politics and social issues. I think that's when their dynamics shone the most. That's Trin and Victor's special thing. But now he's just one corner of a triangle. Maybe this could just be the calm before the storm though. Things could turn 180 after this since the military has made a move to shut people up. And since they stopped the press from publishing the village chief's "accident", I assume Trin and Victor and the rest still have no idea. But imagine what happens when they find out.....

"If you keep fighting till the end, you'll get to sit beside them."

I like what Trin's other uncle said. It echoes what Trin and Tanwa are going through. I don't know if they'll be able to meet each other halfway in the end, but if they do make things work between them, then that's one strong bond they've built. I hope what the uncle said is a foreshadow that Trin and Tanwa will end up together.

I love how Trin keeps calling Tanwa out for being a j*rk to him. The way Tanwa was in such a bad mood after the incident with his father shows that he knows he messed up things with Trin, but he doesn't know how exactly he messed up and how to fix it. That's why he needs Trin to call him out on that, so that he can realize it and learn.

Trin has been in a serious relationship, while Tanwa probably hasn't. Since the first episode, we've seen Tanwa influencing Trin, but now we see Tanwa changing as well, caring about the things he never cared about. He's in a bad mood and worrying, instead of being the carefree person he's supposed to be. And all this is because of Trin.

Their behaviors are also very in character. Tanwa is basically running away every time things get tough. He doesn't like facing his negative emotions. Trin, on the other hand, confronts things every time. He doesn't shy away, whether it was him figuring out his sexual orientation or these problems between him and Tanwa. This is a callback to their conversation in the very first episode, where Tanwa asked Trin if he ever ran away from anything. Trin's expression shows confidence and not an ounce of hesitance, hinting that he's not the type to run. Then he asked Tanwa back the same question, to which Tanwa replied, "I lost count." Trin asked if he ever succeeded, and Tanwa said, "I don't know. I don't care."

I think what we might find out next, is if Tanwa cares this time. Will he continue to choose to run away, or will his love for Trin be stronger than his fear to face reality?

Tanwa's got a tall, thick wall around him. Opening up to Trin about his mother was a huge step, but when his father showed up, Tanwa took 10 steps back, if not 20. Trin's gonna need a lot of patience to break down that wall, and I feel bad for Trin as much as I feel bad for Tanwa. Because you can tell both of them clearly love each other and they are happy being with each other. You can see Tanwa also trying hard in his own way to show that he loves Trin. But Trin is right. Tanwa shouldn't just leave him hanging like this.

Despite their disagreements, I still really love their scenes together. I like that the origamis never stopped and Trin is still getting one from Tanwa each episode. And Trin teasing Tanwa so much this episode is just SO CUTE!!! I really hope things can work out between them. Honestly, I even like this whole challenging road they're on to building a relationship. Because they may have disagreements, but they're also communicating and voicing their feelings, which is important. It's so much better than bottling up everything and not talking to each other.

Whether or not they end up together and have a happy ending, Trin-Tanwa still has my heart. ‪‪❤︎‬

Tanwa getting caught by Lert was hilarious!!!! Also not sure if Dheevi was playing cupid? 👀 But thank you, Dheevi, for helping Tanwa. Lol. And Tanwa climbing back out that gate got me choking on my coffee and his cute little "Bye bye" 😂🤣😂🤣

Tanwa is seriously the one with the most emotional baggage, yet he's our comic relief. Sometimes I even feel bad for laughing at him knowing how much pain he's actually masking, but he's just too funny LOL

I've seen the official teaser. I've watched Pond's interview. And no, just because a character feels like it's made for an actor, it doesn't mean the actor just has to be themselves. It just means it aligns with the actor's charisma, skills, appearance, etc.

I think Tanwa already fits that androgynous style, but in your initial comment, I got the impression that you don't think he had it, and compared him to another main protagonist in another movie. That's why I said Tanwa is Tanwa. Still, I think whether one is androgynous or not is subjective, and again, how androgynous one must be is also subjective. That's my point. Perhaps I failed to convey that in my previous comment.

"Making weird faces and beefing with a student, how does that match up to his 70s renowned popstar character with a wealthy political family background? "

Regarding your comment on this, there's no benchmark on how a renowned popstar with wealthy political family background should act. Tanwa is playful. And he's making weird faces and beefing with Victor only because Victor is getting close to Trin, so he's playfully trying to make Victor to back off. He's not doing that to appear rebellious. Also, I don't know how Mile is in real life. All this time, I'm just talking about Tanwa's character and how Mile played Tanwa as an actor.

I feel the opposite though. I feel that the role of Tanwa was made for Mile. I actually think his acting has improved a lot in this compared to when he played Kinn. And in fact, Kinn wasn't a two-dimensional character, but it also wasn't as complex as Tanwa. And for Mile to be able to balance that hidden pain and nonchalant, mysterious attitude of Tanwa so well here means he's doing a good job. At least I think he is.

I also never felt that Tanwa's character came off as "slutty". We also don't see him fooling around THAT much to be considered "slutty". He just likes flirting and teasing people, and that is his charismatic personality because he doesn't do it in an offensive way, especially judging by people's reactions when he flirts with or teases them. People (except Victor) DO adore him.

I also feel that thinking Tanwa should have "a beautiful androgynous appearance" is putting him in a box. Tanwa is Tanwa. He's not some other character from another story and he doesn't have to be like them. Tanwa has his own story and his own charms that fit into Shine.

I've always felt that Trin fell for Tanwa's charisma and personality, not so much about his appearance. But of course, Tanwa's good looks and charming smile definitely scored him many points and caught Trin's attention at first. But it was Tanwa's thinking and attitude toward life that intrigued Trin. Whether or not Tanwa has to look androgynous really doesn't matter to me. Tanwa could charm anyone if he wanted to. Apo also definitely did an amazing job playing Trin, because it's written all over Trin's face that he's in love with Tanwa.

Yep! I really love Trin and Victor's student-professor friendship. They are both ambitious and share the same goal. I also believe they are both sincere in wanting to help the people. If Trin and Victor work together, they can build a path to a better future.

Second everything you said too, but also, it's crazy how I hadn't seen this reply of yours and replied to another comment you had on Victor, and said the exact same thing!!! "he is much more than just a third wheel. " 😆😆

And yes, I think LertRan's coded words through the books was super cute!! That's why I feel that Ep3 was their moment, but that momentum unfortunately didn't carry on into Ep4. Instead, it was overshadowed by too much NC scenes. Maybe if they had one more episode to flesh out their non-sexual interactions and also space out their NC moments, their NC scenes might not have felt so shoehorned like it did in Ep4.

Omg, this. I can't see the chemistry between Trin and Victor, although seeing Victor struggling with his one-sided crush alone was cute and funny 😆 but I also like his character and the color he brings to the story. If the writers made him turn bad, they'd be doing his character so dirty! Victor can be so much more than just a spiteful third-wheel.

Tbh, I feel like Naran couldn't be bothered with Dao's feelings anymore at this point. I wonder how much he thought he "loved" her before he met Lert. And now that he's with Lert, how much more does Ran care about Dao?

It feels to me he's still sticking with Dao as a coverup for his homosexuality. Because it's like a norm to have a partner or marriage to avoid suspicion. But he also can't stand her or her family anymore. I really wonder if he'll decide to break up with Dao for good regardless of coming out to her or not. But before he can even do that, I worry for his safety...

Seriously, flustered Trin is so cute!!! 😂😂 I can't stop replaying the scene where Tanwa came to deliver the "important document" in Ep4, and Trin was hesitating and looking at the higher-ups and back at Tanwa like, "It better not be something weird but I know it's gonna be something weird." Lolol

When Trin's with Victor, he's like a grumpy old man. When Trin's with Tanwa, he's cute baby. 🤣🤣🤣

If you don't want naked butts, you can actually watch the Acoustic version... 😂😂

I'm one of those who feel that way in Ep4. I like when they exchange their secret love letters. It's when their chemistry really shows and it's that special thing they have. That was very well done in Ep3. I think Ep3 was definitely their moment and their peak. But in Ep4, that aspect got overshadowed by the physical scenes, and to make things worse, we see potential distrust forming between them.

It's just weird for me though. Like when they're not busy thinking about having sex with each other, I can actually feel that they share something more than just lust. But when they're being naked together, that spark unfortunately falls a little flat.

I feel that people who don't see the depth in Trin and Tanwa's relationship, and call them a boring couple...have failed to see the undertones between them. Then again, it IS more complex compared to LertRan's, which is more straightforward. So it's not surprising that not many people come to appreciate what Trin and Tanwa share.

But I think people who DO see the depth in Trin and Tanwa's relationship are those who really like them, because they can see how beautiful it is and appreciate it.

That's why when I see many raving about LertRan's NC scenes and chemistry while saying Trin and Tanwa's looked boring or have no chemistry, I can't help but think people might feel that way because TT have lesser physical intimacy compared to LertRan at this point, and they think whatever Trin and Tanwa experienced together in the past 4 episodes had "no chemistry" and "no substance", when there's actually FULL of it.

I also find it almost absurd how people see chemistry and potential between Trin and Victor when Trin has absolutely NO romantic feelings for Victor and only has eyes for Tanwa. I'm honestly so confused. Lol. I apologize if you're one of them. 😆 I'm sorry.

Anyway, I feel that it's just gonna be an endless debate about LertRan and TrinTanwa. Lol. If people don't see Trin and Tanwa's chemistry by now, they still won't see it no matter how we explain, just like how we don't feel the same about LertRan 😆😆

Oh, I actually meant their sex scenes felt too explosive to the point where it was almost kinda like "in your face" in Ep4. Hahaha. Like when they meet, they just need to jump on each other right away first. When they were shown naked together again, I was like, "Is that ALL they do together??? 😂😂 Show me something else!"

But yea, I couldn't pinpoint what was lacking at first, but now that you mentioned it, I'm not sure if it was half-hearted? It did feel a bit like that, but it was like...they were just doing it because their body demanded it, not because their hearts were together. It's like they were just bonding physically and not emotionally. But again, we know that's probably how their relationship is supposed to be, so... 🤷‍♀️ Hahaha

And yea....I skipped their makeout scenes too when I rewatched Ep4 🙈🙈

I don't think that getting intimate means there's chemistry. That was my whole point. Because many people are raving over LertRan's NC scenes and claiming they have strong chemistry. So to me, it seemed like people think their intimacy translates to chemistry.

I'm also not denying SonEuro/LertRan's good chemistry, but for me, it definitely doesn't top TT's. In fact, I feel that LertRan's own chemistry is stronger when they're exchanging love letters instead of when they have their NC scenes. Their NC scenes and even just them kissing actually fell a little flat for me in Ep4. Maybe it's just me, idk. Coz now I'm just getting lustful vibes from them instead of love, and it feels a bit two-dimensional. Maybe it's just coz they don't have more running time to add more depth to it. I'm not saying it's bad, but LertRan's chemistry still feels a bit lacking somehow even though it's good.

The reason I think MileApo/TrinTanwa have better chemistry is because theirs feels layered. They give off a different type of chemistry according to different scenes, and not all of them are sexual or romantic. And when it actually comes to their kissing scenes, each kiss gives off a different type of feeling too, and MileApo are able to convey that impeccably. Not to mention, Trin and Tanwa don't even have NC scenes like LertRan's yet.

Maybe what we perceive as chemistry is different, so I'm not seeing what you see in LertRan, and you're not seeing what I see in TrinTanwa.

Yea, it was a bit much in ep4 for me too. But I also get that it's supposed to be that way for LertRan because their relationship was built on suppressed lust. It's just the explosive type compared to Trin and Tanwa's slowburn. Whenever LertRan meet, they're always almost half naked. And whenever Trin and Tanwa meet, they're just smiling and healing each other.

Tbh, I did think LertRan had mad chemistry at the beginning when they were secretly exchanging notes in the library. But in ep4, they kinda lost a bit of that tension between them which made them interesting in Ep3. I think they still have chemistry, definitely. But it doesn't feel as interesting as it was in Ep3 anymore? Idk, maybe it's just me. And especially when there's a sense of betrayal slowly starting to creep in between them, whenever I see them together, I'm just hoping Ran won't end up dead. Lol.

Exactly! Thanks for bringing this up. I fully agree. I hope more people realize this. They're honestly such amazing actors and are soooo good in conveying chemistry with different tones. Not many actors can do that.

But I get why many people are crazy over LertRan. I mean, sex sells. MileApo also had that in KinnPorsche although it wasn't just pure lust and passion but also had strong emotional ties to it. And I think that's why many people liked KP and MileApo.

Maybe we just need to wait till TrinTanwa's NC scenes for viewers to change their mind about TrinTanwa being a boring or no-chemistry couple. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Ahhhh I LOVE this theory!!!! I'm gonna be smiling to sleep thinking about this 😆😆

Nah. It only seems that way for those who like seeing more NC scenes between characters or think that only getting intimate physically translates to love and chemistry.

Mile and Apo are playing characters that carry more emotional baggage, and while Trin and Tanwa may not have been as physically passionate toward each other like LertRan, they are building more emotional intimacy than LertRan. And no hate to LertRan, but those kisses Trin and Tanwa shared at the beach top all of LertRan's kisses.