This. 😢 And the saddest part is Tanwa doesn't even have anyone he can turn to when he's having a hard time.…
Would also like to add on that his character representing the hippies shouldn't be taken at face value. Even though that's how his character was introduced, his representation of a hippie only comes secondary as the story unfolds.
He is more than just a carefree hippie. His hippie character is only a facade and a coping mechanism for him. He chose that way of life because of the traumatic experiences he grew up with.
This. 😢 And the saddest part is Tanwa doesn't even have anyone he can turn to when he's having a hard time.…
Thank you ❣ and you're absolutely right about Dawn. People see him as an apathetic selfish coward, but he's just like those who simply want to survive and enjoy the little happiness you can find in life. Because just living is already a daily struggle itself, so he uses his art and music to heal himself and others. He's not a coward. He's just human.
This. 😢 And the saddest part is Tanwa doesn't even have anyone he can turn to when he's having a hard time.…
Thank you for understanding, and I get what you mean. I also understand how some may see it differently. It's just that for me, that's who and what Tanwa is in the series environment and events. *That* is precisely his purpose. That's the reason he's there. He's not meant to be part of the fight Trin, Lert, Ran, and Victor are fighting, and contribute to a greater purpose. He represents the other part of life. The ones who are silently fighting their own fights. The ones who are too consumed by their own demons and nightmares to have the energy to care about other things.
But again, that's just my humble opinion about Tanwa. I respect your opinion as well.
This. 😢 And the saddest part is Tanwa doesn't even have anyone he can turn to when he's having a hard time.…
Thank you for appreciating and loving Tanwa too. Many would say Tanwa don't deserve Trin, but I think Tanwa deserves so much more love than he's getting because he never got any ever since his mother died. He could've turned out to be an a-hole with a chip on his shoulder, but instead, he grew into this sweet quirky person who just wants to bring peace and happiness, and actually has so much love to give.
If Trin can't appreciate how precious of a person Tanwa is, then Tanwa also deserves better. But Tanwa loves Trin, so I hope Trin loves him back just as much.
I need to create a protection squad for Tanwa, protecting him online is not enough...
This. 😢 And the saddest part is Tanwa doesn't even have anyone he can turn to when he's having a hard time. Even in the series, many people assume he's just a useless happy hippie. His father abuses him. Trin criticizes him, and now blames him. Victor was prejudiced against him.
At least Trin's got a supportive system and family who truly loves and protects him. But Tanwa's got no one. He thought he found Trin, but feels like that one's leaving again. Even when he was hurting too, he was still there for Trin. But who's there for him?
I don't get how people can be so understanding of Trin, Lert, and Ran's characters, yet think Tanwa serves no purpose except being a comic relief and Trin's love interest.
Tanwa represents many people who grew up in an unhappy environment and still carries that trauma into adulthood, messing up in relationships because they don't think they deserve love or are too afraid of getting hurt. This isn't about who's playing Tanwa, but the character of Tanwa itself.
Honestly, I've given up on explaining to others because people who don't get Tanwa's character will never get it anyway. And just because we understand and empathize with Tanwa's character, we're being called fanatics. 🤷♀️🤷♀️ At least I try to understand and appreciate the importance of each character, and even for characters whom I don't relate to or like much, I still won't call them useless.
I also respect others' opinions if they don't like Tanwa, but there are even people who not only attack Tanwa's character but also the actor. It just hurts to see people calling Tanwa a useless character because he's the character I empathize with the most as well.
If you were being respectful, no one would be blocking or reporting you. I don't know why you're being so rude…
I'm sorry those words were said to you, but that also doesn't mean it's okay for you to be rude to others. If someone said offensive words to you, just report them, that's it. There's no need to attack others as well.
Going back to Ep3 to watch Trin and Victor's debate about democracy and protesting....and then fast forward to Ep7 hits even harder. 🫠 Trin has been stressing that taking things to the streets wouldn't solve anything, and that people can actually die in the process. And Victor questioned him back, "Who is to be blamed then? Protesters? Those giving the orders are sure to be blamed."
To which Trin replies, "It's not as important who's right and who's wrong as losing someone dear to you." Then Victor argues, "Then what should we do? Pretend to be ignorant and let them do whatever they want? Not make our demands heard?" And Trin then argues again that he's trying his best to make a change. Victor scoffs and calls him privileged. Trin stops himself from arguing further and steadies himself. And it was what Trin says at the very end that hurts even more now. He said, "Wait and see. Thank you for debating with me." 🥲
I remember after Ep3, I mentioned how much I liked Victor and Trin having opposite views yet sharing the same goal. I could see them becoming close like brothers and good friends. If only Victor made it to America, he could've found himself a cute boyfriend who shares the same goals and supports him, and he could come back and meet Trin again to work together and make a change. He could've seen the point Trin was trying to make, and also done the same as Trin.
I really hate how Victor had no plot armor and was carrying the death flag since the beginning. While I feel that it didn't have to be Victor, it also made complete sense that it was Victor. He's someone who'd put himself in harm's way to protect others. So when the commotion took place, everyone was busy running away. But Victor was more likely to fight back and try to save others. Victor was also the leader, so he likely had a target on his back all along... We don't know if Pracha had targeted Victor, or whoever was leading the protest that night. And Victor got unlucky deciding not to sit this one out.
Either way... it feels unrealistic, but I hope the only death we're getting in Ep8 is Pracha's.
To be honest, whether she's homophobic or not, it felt a bit ambiguous to me. Because to me, she's never seen him as someone on equal status as her. And for him to betray her like that, she felt even more insulted.
But idk, maybe there are other details I'm missing, and I'm hoping she's not.
I feel sorry for both of them. At that time it was only logical for Trin to punch Tanwa for Victor's death as…
Omg, thanks for pointing out about Tanakom. I kept wondering how the hell he figured out so fast when news wasn't even out! I was just so heartbroken seeing how crushed Trin and Tanwa was that I couldn't even put 2 and 2 together. Lol. Now it all make sense. 😢
Tanwa cares so much about Trin. Even with everything that happened, Tanwa made sure Trin was looked after because now he knows how important it was for someone to be there for Trin when Trin is having a hard time.
And same here, whether they break up or not, I just hope they talk things out first. I also think Tanwa's selfishness was justifiable. It was selfish of him, yes. But people ARE selfish. And I think looking at it as a third person, it's easy to stand on moral high ground and judge him. But the truth is, probably 99% of the people commenting here would've done the same to keep their loved ones safe, even if they don't have any similar trauma like Tanwa's. Because that's just human.
If Tanwa didn't even bother to warn Victor when he saw him, then yea, that's kind of a jerk. But he put looking for Trin on hold to warn Victor. Also, if Trin were in a similar situation, who knows if he would also do the same to protect Tanwa?
It also just dawned on me that Trin may not find out Tanwa warned Victor unless Tanwa revealed it himself. Because no one else was there, and I feel that Tanwa may choose not to bring it up because it may come off as an excuse like he's trying to shirk responsibility proving that he had no fault. 😢 But Trin needs to knowww. It really wasn't fair blaming Tanwa for it. 😭
Victor's death did not come from nowhere. It was foreshadowed many times during the series. I could argue with…
Also to add on, I think it was the end of Ep3? When Trin and Victor were debating about protesting and democracy. Trin told Victor that people could die, and that it could be someone's children, friend, parent, or loved one.
"If anyone is wondering why Dao took off her shoe to smack Naran, it's because the feet are considered the lowest, dirtiest part of the body in thai culture so wacking him with her shoe is much more insulting than using her hand."
After telling Trin about the protest, Tanwa must've been trembling with fear of losing Trin. You can see that before he starts to calm himself by playing the guitar and singing, reminding himself that "Everyone leaves in the end."
It's like choosing not to stop his mother from dying all over again even if he knew she was gonna take her own life. He knew his mother would be unhappy if he didn't let her go. He knew Trin would be unhappy if he didn't let him go.
Tanwa was selfish for not telling Trin, because he feared losing Trin as much as Trin feared losing Victor. Tanwa warned Victor himself. He really tried. His scene with Victor was the most serious I've ever seen Tanwa be. But Tanwa's only human, and anyone in his position would've probably done the same to protect someone they absolutely fear losing.
Trin has every right to be mad at Tanwa for lying. I get that Trin was sad, mad, and grieving. But I disagree with Trin for saying Tanwa let Victor walk to his death. Trin probably has no idea Tanwa already warned Victor. Tanwa was only wrong for taking away Trin's chance to protect Victor and his students. But Tanwa's lie to Trin did not lead to anyone's death. It's not Tanwa's fault that Victor died. It was Krailert's boss Pracha's, and the one who shot Victor.
I hope neither Trin or Tanwa live the rest of their life ridden with guilt for Victor's death.
He is more than just a carefree hippie. His hippie character is only a facade and a coping mechanism for him. He chose that way of life because of the traumatic experiences he grew up with.
But again, that's just my humble opinion about Tanwa. I respect your opinion as well.
If Trin can't appreciate how precious of a person Tanwa is, then Tanwa also deserves better. But Tanwa loves Trin, so I hope Trin loves him back just as much.
At least Trin's got a supportive system and family who truly loves and protects him. But Tanwa's got no one. He thought he found Trin, but feels like that one's leaving again. Even when he was hurting too, he was still there for Trin. But who's there for him?
I don't get how people can be so understanding of Trin, Lert, and Ran's characters, yet think Tanwa serves no purpose except being a comic relief and Trin's love interest.
Tanwa represents many people who grew up in an unhappy environment and still carries that trauma into adulthood, messing up in relationships because they don't think they deserve love or are too afraid of getting hurt. This isn't about who's playing Tanwa, but the character of Tanwa itself.
Honestly, I've given up on explaining to others because people who don't get Tanwa's character will never get it anyway. And just because we understand and empathize with Tanwa's character, we're being called fanatics. 🤷♀️🤷♀️ At least I try to understand and appreciate the importance of each character, and even for characters whom I don't relate to or like much, I still won't call them useless.
I also respect others' opinions if they don't like Tanwa, but there are even people who not only attack Tanwa's character but also the actor. It just hurts to see people calling Tanwa a useless character because he's the character I empathize with the most as well.
To which Trin replies, "It's not as important who's right and who's wrong as losing someone dear to you." Then Victor argues, "Then what should we do? Pretend to be ignorant and let them do whatever they want? Not make our demands heard?" And Trin then argues again that he's trying his best to make a change. Victor scoffs and calls him privileged. Trin stops himself from arguing further and steadies himself. And it was what Trin says at the very end that hurts even more now. He said, "Wait and see. Thank you for debating with me." 🥲
I remember after Ep3, I mentioned how much I liked Victor and Trin having opposite views yet sharing the same goal. I could see them becoming close like brothers and good friends. If only Victor made it to America, he could've found himself a cute boyfriend who shares the same goals and supports him, and he could come back and meet Trin again to work together and make a change. He could've seen the point Trin was trying to make, and also done the same as Trin.
I really hate how Victor had no plot armor and was carrying the death flag since the beginning. While I feel that it didn't have to be Victor, it also made complete sense that it was Victor. He's someone who'd put himself in harm's way to protect others. So when the commotion took place, everyone was busy running away. But Victor was more likely to fight back and try to save others. Victor was also the leader, so he likely had a target on his back all along... We don't know if Pracha had targeted Victor, or whoever was leading the protest that night. And Victor got unlucky deciding not to sit this one out.
Either way... it feels unrealistic, but I hope the only death we're getting in Ep8 is Pracha's.
But idk, maybe there are other details I'm missing, and I'm hoping she's not.
Tanwa cares so much about Trin. Even with everything that happened, Tanwa made sure Trin was looked after because now he knows how important it was for someone to be there for Trin when Trin is having a hard time.
And same here, whether they break up or not, I just hope they talk things out first. I also think Tanwa's selfishness was justifiable. It was selfish of him, yes. But people ARE selfish. And I think looking at it as a third person, it's easy to stand on moral high ground and judge him. But the truth is, probably 99% of the people commenting here would've done the same to keep their loved ones safe, even if they don't have any similar trauma like Tanwa's. Because that's just human.
If Tanwa didn't even bother to warn Victor when he saw him, then yea, that's kind of a jerk. But he put looking for Trin on hold to warn Victor. Also, if Trin were in a similar situation, who knows if he would also do the same to protect Tanwa?
It also just dawned on me that Trin may not find out Tanwa warned Victor unless Tanwa revealed it himself. Because no one else was there, and I feel that Tanwa may choose not to bring it up because it may come off as an excuse like he's trying to shirk responsibility proving that he had no fault. 😢 But Trin needs to knowww. It really wasn't fair blaming Tanwa for it. 😭
"If anyone is wondering why Dao took off her shoe to smack Naran, it's because the feet are considered the lowest, dirtiest part of the body in thai culture so wacking him with her shoe is much more insulting than using her hand."
source: https://www.tumblr.com/heaven-is-in-your-arms-series/794591271188578304/if-anyone-is-wondering-why-dao-took-off-her-shoe?source=share
It's like choosing not to stop his mother from dying all over again even if he knew she was gonna take her own life. He knew his mother would be unhappy if he didn't let her go. He knew Trin would be unhappy if he didn't let him go.
Tanwa was selfish for not telling Trin, because he feared losing Trin as much as Trin feared losing Victor. Tanwa warned Victor himself. He really tried. His scene with Victor was the most serious I've ever seen Tanwa be. But Tanwa's only human, and anyone in his position would've probably done the same to protect someone they absolutely fear losing.
Trin has every right to be mad at Tanwa for lying. I get that Trin was sad, mad, and grieving. But I disagree with Trin for saying Tanwa let Victor walk to his death. Trin probably has no idea Tanwa already warned Victor. Tanwa was only wrong for taking away Trin's chance to protect Victor and his students. But Tanwa's lie to Trin did not lead to anyone's death. It's not Tanwa's fault that Victor died. It was Krailert's boss Pracha's, and the one who shot Victor.
I hope neither Trin or Tanwa live the rest of their life ridden with guilt for Victor's death.