Robin

Aran seems like a fun character too !

Unfortunately, the series feels very rushed in terms of plot, pace, smooth growth of personalities and characters (so that in the end, we "care" about them). It's a pity because the acting, the cinematography, the atmosphere were amazing. A missed opportunity.

What are your favorite scenes in episode 1 ? Mine are :
- when Jack and Jocker meet at the bar (the chemistry is -chef kiss-)
- the scene at the end when you see the parallel between Joker arrestation and Jack becoming mafia guy (two different kind of jails in fact).
- the scenes with grandma because they are so beautiful and heartbraking too (she is a great actress)

This rating is a joke (ah ah !). To be frank, it is even quite ridiculous. The quality of the first episode, the care you can see behind the filming...absurd.

Jack and Joker are such interesting characters indeed. Joker is very charismatic and so well played by War. He is such a complex character ! And Jack's transformation from a sweetheart guy to a "bad guy" will be heartbreaking to see. Since the series is called Jack and Joker, I guess the focus will be more on how both of them will, among all the hardship, be together in the end. I see this more as a angst drama, full of emotions than an action/crime drama though (to the point I don't really care about the "reality" of the bank robbery or of the next thefts). The series is already very promising and gripping (the scene with the grandmother at the end...). And the "action/crime"-like background is just the cherry on the cake in fact.

Great first episode ! And the ending gave me goosebumps ! Awesome !

In the end, if they want to let some kind of mystery persist, they should not really give a definitive answer about this 4 minutes thing, I think. And I hope that's the case, because explaining everything will kill the fun in fact 🥺

The tragic life of a turtle trying desperately to escape from that glass jail 🥺

Faves :
Thailand : Rak Diao
Korea : Where your eyes linger
Japan : Ossan's love
Taiwan : History 2 Crossing the line
China : Word of Honor
Philippines : Stuck on you/ Gameboys (season 1)

If they follow the novel, prepare for the angst people. It's not so fluffy.

This is a good start ! I like the first two episodes.

I wonder if Great was shot by Korn in the original timeline now though. And the scenes Great has with his his brother maybe they are in fact only in his mind, like a wish of closeness. Because the way Korn acts with Tonkla...I distrust him now.

So what are your most anticipated BLs series after 4minutes ? Mine are :
- Jack & Joker: U Steal My Heart!
- Thame - Po Heart That Skips a Beat

It's almost there !!!!

Also I'm not sure anymore that those 4 minutes are a way for Great to rectify the "wrongs" he's been doing in his head. Otherwise how would you explain that him having a heart attack in episode 1 is a direct consequence of what happens in the end of episode 5 ? that is to say after Great saw the future, he decides to save his mother and end up being shot ? And that's how he ends up having that that heart attack ? This is so confusing !

I think it does feel rushed (but still very interesting). It's quite visible withTonkla and Win relationship especially (unless Win has some other motives, but even with that, why Tonkla would be that interested immediately ?) It's a pity this does not have more episodes.

Now I'm not sure the woman Great hit with his car in the first episode is dead, even in the timeline where he flees though (or I don't remember well). It doesn't seem that "way" when you watch again the scene. Also, the dinner scene with the parents says too that "luckily she didn't die". And it can be a scene from the original (true) timeline. That would also explain the end of episode 5 in fact, with the 4 minutes or without the 4 minutes thing.

Great episode !

- Korn seeks the help of « the director » who knows about the shareholder (Mr Wanchai) hiring the hacker. The director reveals that it is not the first time this shareholder wants to bring trouble.
- Mr Wanchai, one of the shareholders of Great family’s business most likely knows about Tyme and about his revenge (?).
- Like Title helping Great, Korn is also helped by Fah and her family because of the cyberattack of the gambling ring.
- Mr Wanchai is killed by the director’s men.
- Korn spent the night with Fah, the director’s daughter, as a result, feeling indebted. He has previously called her because he needed the help of her family.
- Korn does seem a little put off and does not seem ready to accept the « shady » part of the business he’s managing now. He knows more or less guess what’s happening behind the scenes but doesn’t want to take full responsability of this for now.
- Tyme and Nan (the hacker) are working together to bring down Great’s family shady business, most likely with the previous help of the shareholder (who was killed).
- Apparently Great and Tyme have already met and spend the night together.
- Nan is captured.

- Win is not in charge anymore of the murder next to the swamp. Most likely Title’s powerful dad has « helped » and want the case to be forgotten. My guess is that Title’s father is also Fah’s father. They are a lot alike.
- Tonkla smokes again and does drug. He most likely have hallucination because of this about his dead brother (now) and his dead cat (previously).
- Win saw a comment of a student saying they all know who did the murder. Of course, because of the clip about Title and View dispute posted by Dome in the chat message, it’s obvious Title did it. And maybe that’s how Tonkla happens to know it later too.
- Tonkla kills Title (?) for revenge (since Title has killed his brother previously), using a rock.
- Win knows who kills Title. Tonkla didn’t even bother and happily left his DNA on that rock.
- Great and Tyme has a fight on the rooftop of the hospital. Great does not know about his family shady business (or doesn’t want to know). Tyme asks him about Nan and doesn’t want to see Great again.
- Great manages to know where Nan is, after looking at the info in his brother’s phone. He informs Tyme too.
- Great goes to the wharehouse where Nan is detained and saw her killed.
- Tyme has been shot and most likely died when he tried to rescue Nan in that warehouse (?).
- Great is having a heart attack in room 4 at 11:00.