rewatching this drama in full after almost 5 years. it feels like seeing an ex 💔
this was the first and only drama i finished in 3 days—at high speed ofc ;D to be fair, it was during the summer of covid so i had a lottt of free time on my hands LOL
Woah! I was missing tjc n so I thought to try to watch this show for him after dropping it last year as it was…
the scene of xiang liu asking xiao yao questions reveals xiao yao's true feelings the best.
S2E06 XL: are you willing to marry chishui fenglong? XY: not willing XL: are you willing to marry tushan jing? XY: [no response] XL: are you willing to marry ye shiqi? XY: willing XL: who do you want to spend your life with? XY: [no response. her head starts to hurt]
(earlier in S2E01, xiao yao said that the person she likes is the one she wants to spend her life with)
CH 32 After multiple struggles she became more and more pained and her body began to shake as she clutched her head “Hurt…..hurt…..” Xiang Liu had used his power to try and see into Xiao Yao’s heart but Xiao Yao’s mind was too strong willed. If she encountered something that even she refused to think about, then she would unexpectedly oppose answering it and the headache was the result of her refusal to answer the question.
there was somebody who analyzed this scene a year back, and their thoughts were just too accurate not to share. (i highly recommend you to read their full comment)
"In the drama episode, when Xiao Yao is asked whether whether she wants to marry Tushan Jing: She does not answer. When asked if she wants to marry Ye Shiqi, she says yes. Xiang Liu could have given up asking at that point. He does not. Why? Because the Lovers' Bugs are not giving him pain. This means Xiao Yao is giving answers that do not trigger love, hence telling Xiang Liu that he is not asking the right questions. If Xiao Yao can say yes to marrying Ye Shiqi yet not be in love with Ye Shiqi, it means marriage to Xiao Yao is not what she defines as a criteria for love. Xiang Liu knows Xiao Yao was willing to marry Chishui Fenglong without loving him. We know marriage is not used as a definition of love by Xiao Yao.
On top of that, her answers are telling Xiang Liu that Xiao Yao can differentiate between the importance of Ye Shiqi and Tushan Jing to Xiao Yao, as Xiao Yao and as Wen Xiaoliu. Knowing all this would make anyone emotional, especially a demon who thinks he will never be loved. And that is where Tan Jianci acts it out rather wonderfully: When Xiang Liu asks who she wants to spend the rest of her life with. He does not make a differentiation in this question. He simply asks her who she wants to spend the rest of her life with. What Xiang Liu wants to know is who Wen Xiaoliu and Xiao Yao, as an entire person and wholeheartedly, wants as a life companion and soulmate.
This is when Xiao Yao gets a headache. Her reactions, in what she does not say and how the bugs inside their hearts react, is the answer. The fact that she refuses to answer is because she does not want to answer and cannot answer. It would require her to look clearly at what her heart knows, and acknowledge it."
adding on: xiao yao easily answered "willing" to marrying ye shiqi, so why couldn't she say his name when asking who she wanted to spend her life with?
because the words "willing" and "want" have different meanings. you can be willing to do something without wanting to do it, and you can want something without being willing to do it.
for someone who has severe abandonment and childhood traumas, it's not surprising that xiao yao would be willing to go for the safe choice, the one who will never abandon her (jing) instead of the one she wants to be with but could abandon her in war (xiang liu).
Woah! I was missing tjc n so I thought to try to watch this show for him after dropping it last year as it was…
what @kokuto said. xiao yao's love for xiang liu is more subtle. she has abandonment traumas and tends to follow her mind instead of her heart. you kinda have to do the movie-equivalent of reading between the lines to see her feelings for xiang liu.
but the drama did downplay yaoliu's moments a lot, that's a huge part of why many viewers think she doesn't love xiang liu. her feelings for xiang liu are more obvious in the novel.
drama sequence: xiao yao finds out about xiang liu's death (quiet tears) --> marries jing novel sequence: xiao yao marries jing --> finds out about xiang liu's death (crying and screaming)
I've a really hard time emphatizing with ML... He falls in love with FL when she has other faces but is incapable…
@505tangqi said it right.
tang qi has a negative "filter" on cheng cheng right now due to misunderstandings back in school (he thought she was a bully). it's like how once you view someone negatively, you view everything they do negatively, even when it's probably illogical.
he hasn't realized it yet but he's not really in love with her transformations; he's in love with her core / true self.
no official confirmation yet. i hope it comes true but have a feeling jianci won't take it since ML sounds similar to xiang liu and jianci tends to play different roles TT
finished ep 1 and like it so far. reminded me of girl from nowhere.
i felt pity for what ah jin went through. i thought about all the poor kids out there who were born into abusive and/or neglectful households, how such traumatic incidents in their childhood would forever shape their future TT
I don't watch kdramas anymore. I'm just drifting until the cdrama I'm waiting for airs in Dec. I happened to chance…
haha i'm in the same boat. i've rarely watched kdramas since 2020, only a few that i thought would be interesting (this is one of them ;D) if a fellow cdrama lover enjoyed this then i believe i might too!
based on the description and clips i've seen, seems that romance is not the main focus — which is good. i feel like these type of stories don't need a sweet love story.
eta: thanks everybody for the input! i will give this a go when i come home from work 😊
can international fans order too? i can never seem to access qq music app at all TT
oh yes those stupid tarrifs.. i don't wanna give such a high price away to those people 💀 it's okay, i'll support jianci in other ways the best i can as an international fan 🥲
this was the first and only drama i finished in 3 days—at high speed ofc ;D to be fair, it was during the summer of covid so i had a lottt of free time on my hands LOL
S2E06
XL: are you willing to marry chishui fenglong?
XY: not willing
XL: are you willing to marry tushan jing?
XY: [no response]
XL: are you willing to marry ye shiqi?
XY: willing
XL: who do you want to spend your life with?
XY: [no response. her head starts to hurt]
(earlier in S2E01, xiao yao said that the person she likes is the one she wants to spend her life with)
CH 32
After multiple struggles she became more and more pained and her body began to shake as she clutched her head “Hurt…..hurt…..” Xiang Liu had used his power to try and see into Xiao Yao’s heart but Xiao Yao’s mind was too strong willed. If she encountered something that even she refused to think about, then she would unexpectedly oppose answering it and the headache was the result of her refusal to answer the question.
there was somebody who analyzed this scene a year back, and their thoughts were just too accurate not to share. (i highly recommend you to read their full comment)
"In the drama episode, when Xiao Yao is asked whether whether she wants to marry Tushan Jing: She does not answer. When asked if she wants to marry Ye Shiqi, she says yes. Xiang Liu could have given up asking at that point. He does not. Why? Because the Lovers' Bugs are not giving him pain. This means Xiao Yao is giving answers that do not trigger love, hence telling Xiang Liu that he is not asking the right questions. If Xiao Yao can say yes to marrying Ye Shiqi yet not be in love with Ye Shiqi, it means marriage to Xiao Yao is not what she defines as a criteria for love. Xiang Liu knows Xiao Yao was willing to marry Chishui Fenglong without loving him. We know marriage is not used as a definition of love by Xiao Yao.
On top of that, her answers are telling Xiang Liu that Xiao Yao can differentiate between the importance of Ye Shiqi and Tushan Jing to Xiao Yao, as Xiao Yao and as Wen Xiaoliu. Knowing all this would make anyone emotional, especially a demon who thinks he will never be loved. And that is where Tan Jianci acts it out rather wonderfully: When Xiang Liu asks who she wants to spend the rest of her life with. He does not make a differentiation in this question. He simply asks her who she wants to spend the rest of her life with. What Xiang Liu wants to know is who Wen Xiaoliu and Xiao Yao, as an entire person and wholeheartedly, wants as a life companion and soulmate.
This is when Xiao Yao gets a headache. Her reactions, in what she does not say and how the bugs inside their hearts react, is the answer. The fact that she refuses to answer is because she does not want to answer and cannot answer. It would require her to look clearly at what her heart knows, and acknowledge it."
— comment by @xiang83 (https://kisskh.at/757669-lost-you-forever-season-2#comment-18082767)
adding on:
xiao yao easily answered "willing" to marrying ye shiqi, so why couldn't she say his name when asking who she wanted to spend her life with?
because the words "willing" and "want" have different meanings. you can be willing to do something without wanting to do it, and you can want something without being willing to do it.
for someone who has severe abandonment and childhood traumas, it's not surprising that xiao yao would be willing to go for the safe choice, the one who will never abandon her (jing) instead of the one she wants to be with but could abandon her in war (xiang liu).
xiao yao's love for xiang liu is more subtle. she has abandonment traumas and tends to follow her mind instead of her heart. you kinda have to do the movie-equivalent of reading between the lines to see her feelings for xiang liu.
but the drama did downplay yaoliu's moments a lot, that's a huge part of why many viewers think she doesn't love xiang liu. her feelings for xiang liu are more obvious in the novel.
drama sequence: xiao yao finds out about xiang liu's death (quiet tears) --> marries jing
novel sequence: xiao yao marries jing --> finds out about xiang liu's death (crying and screaming)
tang qi has a negative "filter" on cheng cheng right now due to misunderstandings back in school (he thought she was a bully). it's like how once you view someone negatively, you view everything they do negatively, even when it's probably illogical.
he hasn't realized it yet but he's not really in love with her transformations; he's in love with her core / true self.
no official confirmation yet. i hope it comes true but have a feeling jianci won't take it since ML sounds similar to xiang liu and jianci tends to play different roles TT
https://x.com/ForCdrama/status/1986713435988709824?t=A0e-pKFSdKEQEzW2WqGPQQ&s=19
i felt pity for what ah jin went through. i thought about all the poor kids out there who were born into abusive and/or neglectful households, how such traumatic incidents in their childhood would forever shape their future TT
based on the description and clips i've seen, seems that romance is not the main focus — which is good. i feel like these type of stories don't need a sweet love story.
eta: thanks everybody for the input! i will give this a go when i come home from work 😊