I don't know... (finished ep 12) but relationship of new Baise goddess and Zhu Yan seems more like a older brother/father so far, while the romantic relationships are with ZYC and Lu Lin? Well he is flirting with everyone. How old was she when he and the previous goddess were raising her???... And why do Chinese/Korean dramas go crazy on the chemistry and interactions between the men...? But love that WX despite being weak is not some wallflower - after all in that world the weaker one is the craftier and stronger mentally they have to be, and her being sassy back in the interactions - I love it - tired of female characters that are basically a child in an adult's body - creepy.
Y'all act like you don't know this director is full of controversy whether it's real or imaginary. If you drop…
Yes but to "make an informed choice" the 'controversy' should be explained/linked. "There is a controversy so I will not be watching" is not informing anyone of anything...
Amazing acting from the whole cast!!! Loved the drama - the action never stopped. Even the ending despite being ambiguous didn't feel unfinished even if this will be the only season. Only issue is the FL became too good - she was the only one who had to sacrifice (because she is 'bad' and have to prove she's good?) And how can she become a human by killing people - that seems completely in line with a demon but the "good" characters wouldn't be in line with it. Also, why did the original human judge end up in hell and where is she now? So could the ML also go to hell, after all wasn't she the only one who changed to be with him? Gets annoying when in Korean dramas no matter what kind of woman the FL lead is, including a 400-year old demon, by falling in love she becomes a generic-phantasy of a woman? Finally, something that came to mind in the retrospection of the last episode the lesson was supposed to be "killing is not the answer, better to be punished by the law" but especially in countries like Korea, stalking, domestic abuse, rape, etc. are not that heavily punished (as per my understanding) so if the perpetrator is dead, even if there is nothingness after death, no hell/heaven, at least they wouldn't come out of prison and abuse their victims again. Women are primarily killed by current/ex partners and other men they know so that 'theme' of the story come out as quite tone-deaf - the first victim would have been beaten to death by her boyfriend or driven by suicide as shown in the episode, the stalker said himself - "she is not dead YET"... I think the FL chose to start killing the sinners again - because she is indeed the best court and human law doesn't protect, especially women, enough; and not just to become human.
Again with the disappointing and weird ending! Was she there to make him a good person again (but he was pretending so even not that) and then just dies...? These stupid endings make Chinese dramas unwatchable - only the first batch of viewers will watch it...I don't get the obsession of "everyone has to die in the last 30 min/1-2episodes". I was waiting at ep 16 to finish airing but after seeing the discussions and watching the last episode, I cannot invest 20 more hours to invest in the characters just to get this!
Exactly.. They built up a connection for 11 episodes and broke it off in 5 mins and got back together in like…
Because almost all major conflicts were resolved by ep 10 and they needed something to fill the 2 hours left... but nothing was resolved with his bio dad's family, the FL's career, ML's mother's family (at least on screen), the half-baked opposition for the older brother's relationship with the writer, pregnant woman's past and motivations. They had plenty of storylines to resolve in the last two episodes without doing the breakup for "shock" value or whatever. The FL and ML had just resolved her hatred for him being one of the foster children and they could grieve together, etc. Also the funeral was made into "your mother will live forever though you and the other foster children" which made no sense - the FL's trauma was that despite her mother being an angel to other people and children, she neglected her own child, also 'making' her daughter love other foster siblings just for them to disappear later (because they are there temporarily? - this was never explored), and FL was shown as being selfish and ungrateful, while she had no stability and was there just so her parents look more well-rounded to orphanages and the system? From what they showed, she mother "saved" other children from abuse while abusing by neglecting her ow child?... The show used a lot of trauma as background for the characters to seem "new", "interesting", while not exploring anything in depth and the show becoming totally generic.
Exactly.. They built up a connection for 11 episodes and broke it off in 5 mins and got back together in like…
Made all kinds of weird decisions - they broke up for no reason or at least the reconciliation was super rushed - they both had the trauma of never being chosen and the break allowed JI Uk to find his mother and was accepted into her family destroying the narrative that children from prior marriages/relationships have to be thrown away (which is super prevalent in Kdramas). Instead, they could have broken up with the caveat that after 6/12 months, etc. after growth, they can get back together if on the same page with each other. The cheater colleague never had repercussions for his behavior - got promoted on the FL's idea and everything, while she had to leave the company - that was crazy not to be resolved... The character in the open relationship didn't want marriage or children but then got pregnant and suddenly wanted the child and was ready to raise it alone... finally in a heterosexual monogamous relationship [marriage?]... That could happen [choosing to have the child] but it was never explored way she didn't want children in depth and what made her change her mind - was it "I want to live forever [through my children]" that was stupid and crazy, or people if becoming pregnant by accident should keep the children anyway...it just never made sense, she could have wanted to have children to begin with instead of that nonsense - the "HAVE CHILDREN" propaganda was insane.
I just finished ep 6 and I also feel that something is off... Also the character is clearly running away from…
Just finished all episodes. Seems to me the generational trauma of not having/seeing healthy relationships and not knowing if a relationship is "boring" because it is not crazy. The only clear bad partner was the religious guy. Even with Sim Gyu Ho they are sexually incompatible... I am still wondering if he broke up with the photographer because he wanted a real relationship and then Yeong was scared of that and ran away (and finding him everything he did annoying was to "find a valid excuse") and then the trauma of him dying - ending any possibility of reconciliation. And then was running away and chasing partners where the break-up was a forgone conclusion as they were incompatible. Loved the story, being a kind of philosophical exploration and love, relationships and life, while being for a gay person, showing with the same 'normality' as if it was for a straight character.
Love it so much!! The full-length episodes, high production value, finally starting to show non-hetero stories…
Just finished! Loved the friendship - despite all of them finishing the series single, it didn't feel like a sad ending! It was open-ended without feeling unfinished.
I think my lack of emotional connection now that I'm half way through is that it doesn't go deep enough? Dude…
To me it somewhat is shown by him unable to really show emotion and running away from people he could have relationships with. Was he incompatible with the 1st boyfriend or running from a good relationship? The second one (the religious guy), he knew he shouldn't go with him and in the end that guy was indeed very toxic. The third one, ended weirdly, moving to China was Ko Yeong's excuse to break up, while still smiling (even if they seemed ultimately incompatible). He says he cannot cry to "flush out" emotion - is it because he suppresses his emotions until he doesn't know what they are. Indeed the relationship with the mother was complicated (the biggest betrayal by a parent to be thrown into 'religious prison' by the one who is supposed to protect you), she was supposedly accepting but was happy not to meet his boyfriend and in the end never truly apologised. The flashes show how many experiences a person can have who "supposedly had it easy" because you don't see them destroyed under the weight but fighting for happiness.
Love it so much!! The full-length episodes, high production value, finally starting to show non-hetero stories as something normal instead of people having to make media almost if not truly underground. Korean BL with 8-minute episodes drive me crazy - at least make it a movie...
I so agree with you when I first started Chinese dramas I was devastated at the endings because they were so ambiguous…
Isn't the ending always sad also to show the people "no matter how much you struggle you can't change anything so just don't try"? But why is it stupid?
Does anyone like the ambiguous endings of Chinese dramas because I feel every one I watch has a stupid ending that makes no sense. I can understand if a movie is 90 min and the ending is 30 seconds and weird, trying to be "elevated" or some shit but just being stupid but to have a story 1,350 minutes (22.5 hrs) / 1,800 minutes (30 hrs) and not to make an ending/conclusion that takes 10 minutes and make sense... I just don't get it. To the audience, the FL self-heals from her mental break and "chooses a stranger" as the dream and the reality ZXW are practically different people, we never see how her experiences in the story impact her life now in the real world... just nothing. Why is there so often a need for some tacked-on "bonus content" instead of doing it in the real story?
I love the drama and then the ending leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
it used to be 9.1 but it drop to 8.9 due to some people think they act better than the cast.
The problem was never the acting but the weird at times cinematography, constantly looking at the camera, overdone sound effects, and weird directorial choices about the acting; the thing that let me finish and enjoy the drama despite the sometimes gimmicky 'situations' was the great acting of the whole cast.
How old was she when he and the previous goddess were raising her???... And why do Chinese/Korean dramas go crazy on the chemistry and interactions between the men...?
But love that WX despite being weak is not some wallflower - after all in that world the weaker one is the craftier and stronger mentally they have to be, and her being sassy back in the interactions - I love it - tired of female characters that are basically a child in an adult's body - creepy.
Loved the drama - the action never stopped. Even the ending despite being ambiguous didn't feel unfinished even if this will be the only season.
Only issue is the FL became too good - she was the only one who had to sacrifice (because she is 'bad' and have to prove she's good?) And how can she become a human by killing people - that seems completely in line with a demon but the "good" characters wouldn't be in line with it.
Also, why did the original human judge end up in hell and where is she now? So could the ML also go to hell, after all wasn't she the only one who changed to be with him?
Gets annoying when in Korean dramas no matter what kind of woman the FL lead is, including a 400-year old demon, by falling in love she becomes a generic-phantasy of a woman?
Finally, something that came to mind in the retrospection of the last episode the lesson was supposed to be "killing is not the answer, better to be punished by the law" but especially in countries like Korea, stalking, domestic abuse, rape, etc. are not that heavily punished (as per my understanding) so if the perpetrator is dead, even if there is nothingness after death, no hell/heaven, at least they wouldn't come out of prison and abuse their victims again. Women are primarily killed by current/ex partners and other men they know so that 'theme' of the story come out as quite tone-deaf - the first victim would have been beaten to death by her boyfriend or driven by suicide as shown in the episode, the stalker said himself - "she is not dead YET"...
I think the FL chose to start killing the sinners again - because she is indeed the best court and human law doesn't protect, especially women, enough; and not just to become human.
I was waiting at ep 16 to finish airing but after seeing the discussions and watching the last episode, I cannot invest 20 more hours to invest in the characters just to get this!
The show used a lot of trauma as background for the characters to seem "new", "interesting", while not exploring anything in depth and the show becoming totally generic.
The cheater colleague never had repercussions for his behavior - got promoted on the FL's idea and everything, while she had to leave the company - that was crazy not to be resolved...
The character in the open relationship didn't want marriage or children but then got pregnant and suddenly wanted the child and was ready to raise it alone... finally in a heterosexual monogamous relationship [marriage?]... That could happen [choosing to have the child] but it was never explored way she didn't want children in depth and what made her change her mind - was it "I want to live forever [through my children]" that was stupid and crazy, or people if becoming pregnant by accident should keep the children anyway...it just never made sense, she could have wanted to have children to begin with instead of that nonsense - the "HAVE CHILDREN" propaganda was insane.
Loved the story, being a kind of philosophical exploration and love, relationships and life, while being for a gay person, showing with the same 'normality' as if it was for a straight character.
Was he incompatible with the 1st boyfriend or running from a good relationship? The second one (the religious guy), he knew he shouldn't go with him and in the end that guy was indeed very toxic. The third one, ended weirdly, moving to China was Ko Yeong's excuse to break up, while still smiling (even if they seemed ultimately incompatible). He says he cannot cry to "flush out" emotion - is it because he suppresses his emotions until he doesn't know what they are.
Indeed the relationship with the mother was complicated (the biggest betrayal by a parent to be thrown into 'religious prison' by the one who is supposed to protect you), she was supposedly accepting but was happy not to meet his boyfriend and in the end never truly apologised.
The flashes show how many experiences a person can have who "supposedly had it easy" because you don't see them destroyed under the weight but fighting for happiness.
I can understand if a movie is 90 min and the ending is 30 seconds and weird, trying to be "elevated" or some shit but just being stupid but to have a story 1,350 minutes (22.5 hrs) / 1,800 minutes (30 hrs) and not to make an ending/conclusion that takes 10 minutes and make sense... I just don't get it.
To the audience, the FL self-heals from her mental break and "chooses a stranger" as the dream and the reality ZXW are practically different people, we never see how her experiences in the story impact her life now in the real world... just nothing.
Why is there so often a need for some tacked-on "bonus content" instead of doing it in the real story?
I love the drama and then the ending leaves a bad taste in my mouth.