I actually... do not hate her ex in these two eps. he got a point in telling her to defend her rights. i'd prefer it if the drama lets her ex be more likeable from now on.
so she got his turtle a partner & accused him of being "desireless". she thought about coming back for the photoshoot after he told her she's gorgeous. lol girl wants him to make a move. YH stop being dense & make a move on your wife NOW
he force hugs her at later eps i think (its from one of the ost video). i'm actually excited to see conflicts between the leads. they need to hammer them out sooner or later anyway. i'm not looking forward to more touching without consent from the ex tho.
The FL should have maintained distance from her ex.When her ex pulled her into a bathroom, she should have kicked…
i think there are two different matters. how women interact with their exes in real life and how cdramas portray them.
cdramas do often portray women as unassertive and docile to serve the plots. it's annoying and QS is not even on top of the list when it comes to this. i can't even watch Yang Mi's Negotiator bc the ML literally just guilt-trips her into a relationship with them and somehow she agrees to that...
but what i'm trying to say is that in real life even if women are docile and unassertive when being manhandled by their exes, they are still not to blame for being touched and grabbed without their consent. in QS's case, her ex does not seem to be an abuser during the time they were together (at least not from what we've seen yet -- although he did show abusive behaviors to her now). so when the breakup feelings and romantic feelings die down, she can approach him as a friend or colleague. that's the way I see it. I wouldn't ask an abuser out for coffee but I do talk to non-abusive exes sometimes and I think it's ok for QS to meet with her ex to discuss work. as for meeting outside of meeting rooms, she literally does that with everyone though not just her ex, because she's... obsessed with work. that actually proves further that she's moved on because now she just treats him as a casual colleague.
the annoying thing cdramas often do is portraying the woman as being "clueless" about SML's interest in her to get a jealous reaction out of the ML. it's a tired trope which i HOPE they're not trying to pull here but i don't have high expectation. however, while cdramas portrayals of women are all sorts of problematic, i don't want to pile on the women characters for their own mistreatment because it sends a message to female victim audience that "hey the harassment you received, maybe it's your fault".
I think it is, because it really happens so often. I think here it is also a lot of guilt, because he did not…
many men are good to the women they are with then immediately become assholes when they no longer get what they want. i don't think she has lingering romantic feelings, but maybe insecurities about her "less than perfect" background that she is reminded of every time she sees him.
The FL should have maintained distance from her ex.When her ex pulled her into a bathroom, she should have kicked…
i'm speaking as a woman who was abused by an ex -- actually no, no matter how much i hated being manhandled, i would not kick him in the nuts in that same scenario because i'm afraid of potential retaliation + violence coming towards me later. QS obviously despised being dragged and grabbed by her ex, but she was attending an event where she barely had any connection to get into. her situation was already fragile as it was. if she kicked him and he made a scene out of it, who do you think people would believe? her or him?
he, however, is the one with zero boundaries and respect. grabbing her without her consent multiple times, stalking her at her apartment, trying to use work to make her see him in private. he's taking advantage of her obsession with work to be close to her while having a fiance. she might fall for it because again, she wants the work, but she's not the one to blame here.
everything she said make sense... why should she married her daughter to someone who have nothing.. no job, no…
he has a traumatizing past that has not even been revealed yet that made him withdraw from his previous job/life. the director even mentioned he has social anxiety disorder which is considered a disability.
everything she said make sense... why should she married her daughter to someone who have nothing.. no job, no…
lol I was raised in a community in a poor rural area. People help each other out in hard times. These are not generalizing, these are what I observed living in the rural area before moving to urban locations. Also not everyone can have a job. There are people with disability, mental illnesses who cannot keep regular jobs. That does not mean these people are worthless and should be cast away by society. Anyone without a job at any age still deserves dignity, support, and respect.
Comparing a woman to a flower for her beauty by itself its not dehumanizing, and in fact has been done in literature for ages. but comparing her to a flower that *I* grow, *I* water, *I* own for 30 years and now *I* give it to you is comparing to a property and, is dehumanizing.
YH's drunk scene is even more touching given it was after all the fights from both families over who pays for what, how much QS is worth given her accomplishments and education etc etc. He just called to reassure her that she is priceless, she is very much loved, and deserves all the best things that he can give her🥹 🥹🥹
everything she said make sense... why should she married her daughter to someone who have nothing.. no job, no…
i mean, if she stays single, she cant afford to get sick either? how is marrying him worse off than her current life if we are only speaking financially? plus he does not plan to stay unemployed forever, he also wants to find a job and live his 4,500/month "dream". he's a responsible man, with her in the picture, he'll also adjust his "target".
i'm from southeast asia & my parents are at least thinking like YH's dad - if the spouse's not financially well off, families on both sides help out, especially in hard times. just because something is part of our culture doesn't mean we can't criticize it. not only it is dehumanizing, it is also classist. and in my country, middle/upper class parents have this mindset more than really poor working class parents.
her mom is on another level--thinking of your daughter as a flower pot - something you own to be given away or have a price, is, again, dehumanizing. YH's friends free lunch speech is also dehumanizing -- the prettier it is the more we can't give away for free? gross.
what i do find very nice is after all these talks about money and diamond and free lunch, YH, in his drunken stage, called and told QS that she is in fact "priceless".
the utility room scene - she really doesn't need put her chin on him like that lol there's enough space for them to be more than a hair away from each other
I thought they were having sex. I actually thought when he found out she had a son he would assume it’s his
my version was anti-marriage woman too. maybe someone who can speak chinese can help translate? but the next scene when he asked her to leave she said "no one wants to see it anyway" inferring to "i've seen it all and i'm not interested"
cdramas do often portray women as unassertive and docile to serve the plots. it's annoying and QS is not even on top of the list when it comes to this. i can't even watch Yang Mi's Negotiator bc the ML literally just guilt-trips her into a relationship with them and somehow she agrees to that...
but what i'm trying to say is that in real life even if women are docile and unassertive when being manhandled by their exes, they are still not to blame for being touched and grabbed without their consent. in QS's case, her ex does not seem to be an abuser during the time they were together (at least not from what we've seen yet -- although he did show abusive behaviors to her now). so when the breakup feelings and romantic feelings die down, she can approach him as a friend or colleague. that's the way I see it. I wouldn't ask an abuser out for coffee but I do talk to non-abusive exes sometimes and I think it's ok for QS to meet with her ex to discuss work. as for meeting outside of meeting rooms, she literally does that with everyone though not just her ex, because she's... obsessed with work. that actually proves further that she's moved on because now she just treats him as a casual colleague.
the annoying thing cdramas often do is portraying the woman as being "clueless" about SML's interest in her to get a jealous reaction out of the ML. it's a tired trope which i HOPE they're not trying to pull here but i don't have high expectation. however, while cdramas portrayals of women are all sorts of problematic, i don't want to pile on the women characters for their own mistreatment because it sends a message to female victim audience that "hey the harassment you received, maybe it's your fault".
the way she approaches him shows she's not interested in him romantically actually. like the judo class. if you still have feelings for someone you are way more careful about approaching them. but she approaches him very casually to try to get work-related information. her wrestling request is in public with other people watching, a bunch of people request to spar with him before her, she just does the same. she even asks both him and his fiancé out for lunch to thank for his work. she never seeks him out privately or for non-work reason. she sets her boundaries pretty clear in my opinion.
he, however, is the one with zero boundaries and respect. grabbing her without her consent multiple times, stalking her at her apartment, trying to use work to make her see him in private. he's taking advantage of her obsession with work to be close to her while having a fiance. she might fall for it because again, she wants the work, but she's not the one to blame here.
Comparing a woman to a flower for her beauty by itself its not dehumanizing, and in fact has been done in literature for ages. but comparing her to a flower that *I* grow, *I* water, *I* own for 30 years and now *I* give it to you is comparing to a property and, is dehumanizing.
i'm from southeast asia & my parents are at least thinking like YH's dad - if the spouse's not financially well off, families on both sides help out, especially in hard times. just because something is part of our culture doesn't mean we can't criticize it. not only it is dehumanizing, it is also classist. and in my country, middle/upper class parents have this mindset more than really poor working class parents.
her mom is on another level--thinking of your daughter as a flower pot - something you own to be given away or have a price, is, again, dehumanizing. YH's friends free lunch speech is also dehumanizing -- the prettier it is the more we can't give away for free? gross.
what i do find very nice is after all these talks about money and diamond and free lunch, YH, in his drunken stage, called and told QS that she is in fact "priceless".