Just curious, why do you think that Rin is a bad girlfriend? I donβt even remember seeing her after sheβs…
Basically everything you've touched on. Of course, we don't see her side of things, so it might be just Cake taking it to next level. But at the very least, it's unusual in my opinion.
And since I doubt there will be much more Rin screentime in upcoming episodes, it's probably an image I'll stick with (unless she surprises me π)
Don't know that Rin is a bad g/f but Cake is in a tough spot. We know that he loves Eiw but is it as a brother…
It's the "I won't play sports with you because Rin doesn't like it when I'm sweating" that makes me think she's not that nice of a partner.
Also, they've been spending so much time together, and she never tried to get to know Cake's friends? Even someone as important for Cake as Eiw? Maybe it's just their age, but I find it weird how much she's monopolizing Cake, without actually trying to be more present in Cake's "life outside Rin".
I'm a bit disappointed with the Sand development. It's kinda unrealistic, and at the same time, too on the nose. I still expected them to turn it around π
As for the pacing, I don't mind going slower, as long as there isn't useless drama involved. This is one of my palate-cleanser series, so slow is good.
From what little we've seen, Rin is a bad girlfriend. Hope she's dropped when Cake [redacted].
for those who have watched easons 1 and 2. should I wait to watch this or should i watch the pervious versions…
So far, there aren't any noticable differences. It's mostly a "re-edited version".
I'd say watch this, since it's more convenient in case they add stuff, and I don't think (re)watching this after the original would give you enough of an additional value.
Edit: Oh, but in the new version, subtitles are usually glitching at the start of each part, so it might be safer to watch the older version, when it's your first time π
"... so, I think we will see Rin more in the future to contest Cake...."Please, let's not π₯Ί I hope Cake will…
I'm actually more interested in the post time-jump part, where I think they can do a lot more with the characters. If they choose to (re)introduce Rin then, it might be worth a while.
As we've seen these past 5 episodes, they do pretty well with stretching plot when little to nothing happens. So I don't really think they have to go the basic "girlfriend drama" route, with no real emotions attached. Especially since we know next to nothing about Rin, she's not that interesting on her own. Cake likes her, but for what? We don't know. Eiw barely met her. She wasn't shown by herself in any situation. So far, she's just there for Eiw to realize his feelings. And we've moved past that. You could say they can try to do the same with Cake, but I don't think it's a good idea. Since, again, we don't know enough about Rin to understand Cake's feelings towards her, nor enough to care for her. The split would serve way better as a potential wake up call for Cake.
Examples for point 3 from 'What I disliked: ' section :
One gripe I have with this show is how easily it's moved past stuff that it should have really dwelled on longer. These are pretty big spoilers, so read at your own risk. Normally I'd consider these potential triggers for the show, but with the way they were dealt with, you're more likely to be tired, annoyed or frustrated than anything else.
1. Age gap - the whole premise of this drama is built on the age gap between main leads. But the show doesn't deal with it in any constructive way. The characters never communicate about how the age differences affect their positions in the relationship. Never talk about how their future together might look like. Never set any rules. Any expectations. Not only they aren't on the same page, ever, they don't even try to explain their side to the other person. It's very much pursuer-pursued relationship, with the younger party being the former one. They also don't act like their own age. Minato is in constant panic/worn down mode, while Shin is unnaturally mature most of the time (he doesn't process feelings like a person his age would), calculating, or jealous.
2. Sexuality - I'm used to BLs trying to go around this one, which is why I was pleasantly surprised by the male lead openly claiming he's gay! Imagine my shock when they introduced his (ex)girlfriend! Did they use it to further elaborate on ML's sexuality or mental struggles? Not really. He only dated her because it was fun and why not? She took it quite well, though. Shin never questions his sexuality, not even once.
3. Student-teacher relationships - they have three of them. Minato has a lingering feelings/regrets about his past teacher, who he kissed before graduating highschool. The teacher gets reintroduced to the story, and clearing that mess up is one of the main plot points. One would expect the teacher to take a lead on something like this. Problem is, this teacher is aloof. Very much. He's a nice person otherwise, but it takes Minato a long time and many failed attempts until he confronts the teacher, and in the end it's not a big deal. For the teacher. It also doesn't provide us with any deeper insight into Minato, and was mostly used as an excuse for why Minato rejects Shin's advances imo (and a reason for Shin to get jealous yet again). The other two cases are similarly non-issue. Girl and a boy both have a crush on the same, younger teacher. Teacher isn't interested in love (or any other emotion towards human by the looks of it). One of them gets rejected. When the other confesses, they get a non-committal answer ("do whatever you want", basically). In the end, the teacher sees two lovers on a beach and thinks out loud that 'maybe love isn't that bad'. Which is very ooc for them. It isn't clear whether the teacher even is in relationship with the student, or it's just the younger party that thinks so.
4. 'Pretend partner' relationship - this was mentioned on the side and didn't amount to much. The other party considered it genuine, and still has feelings for their "boyfriend".
5. Apathy - One character had next to zero emotional capacity towards other people. And we're meant to believe they get a lover at the last minute, just like that?
6. Consent - Shin is pursuing Minato very aggressively, especially at the start. Even though Minato rejects him pretty clearly, and often. It's played for laughs.
7. "Fatefull connection" - The reason why Shin fell for Minato? Minato saved his life. From drowning. 10 years before the show takes place (so Shin was around 8). Shin claims to have loved Minato ever since, wanting to take care of Minato, protect Minato... They might want to take a closer look on how that affected 8 year old Shin on emotional and psychological level.
And that's basically it. For a plot that was this shallow and repetitive, they managed to include quite a few heavy-hitters and ultimately sweep them all under the rug.
This was just... empty for the most part. Not the worst thing I watched, and not the longest potential waste of time, but it's frustrating seeing them set up things without ever going for it fully. It's like they couldn't decide whether to make it an OTT comedy or heartwrenching drama, so they got stuck in this state when the sad things don't hurt much, the funny things don't exhilarate enough, and nothing has depth to make it believable.
It's one of those dramas you could watch just for the sake of watching something, as it looks good and sounds decent. Just don't expect the story to deliver much.
And since I doubt there will be much more Rin screentime in upcoming episodes, it's probably an image I'll stick with (unless she surprises me π)
Also, they've been spending so much time together, and she never tried to get to know Cake's friends? Even someone as important for Cake as Eiw? Maybe it's just their age, but I find it weird how much she's monopolizing Cake, without actually trying to be more present in Cake's "life outside Rin".
As for the pacing, I don't mind going slower, as long as there isn't useless drama involved. This is one of my palate-cleanser series, so slow is good.
From what little we've seen, Rin is a bad girlfriend. Hope she's dropped when Cake [redacted].
I'd say watch this, since it's more convenient in case they add stuff, and I don't think (re)watching this after the original would give you enough of an additional value.
Edit: Oh, but in the new version, subtitles are usually glitching at the start of each part, so it might be safer to watch the older version, when it's your first time π
Unforgotten Night is truly remarkable β¨
Oh no, what happened to Peter Rabbit?! π°
Ahjussi πππ
This is what I get for not reading synopsis before starting.
It's kinda weird that she just lent him the key. But if the place is being demolished either way... what harm could he do?
Rude, to ignore her like that.
I'm getting a bit concerned for our main lead.
Scary phone! Scary πΆ
Imagine someone calling you like that.. it would freak the hell out of me.
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Hello, police?
[Episode 2]
C-c-candy from a stranger? π¨
Seeing the same conversation twice was a bit boring. But it puts things into perspective.
He put a coffee on it?
This is going to be confusing.
As we've seen these past 5 episodes, they do pretty well with stretching plot when little to nothing happens. So I don't really think they have to go the basic "girlfriend drama" route, with no real emotions attached. Especially since we know next to nothing about Rin, she's not that interesting on her own. Cake likes her, but for what? We don't know. Eiw barely met her. She wasn't shown by herself in any situation. So far, she's just there for Eiw to realize his feelings. And we've moved past that. You could say they can try to do the same with Cake, but I don't think it's a good idea. Since, again, we don't know enough about Rin to understand Cake's feelings towards her, nor enough to care for her. The split would serve way better as a potential wake up call for Cake.
1. Age gap - the whole premise of this drama is built on the age gap between main leads. But the show doesn't deal with it in any constructive way. The characters never communicate about how the age differences affect their positions in the relationship. Never talk about how their future together might look like. Never set any rules. Any expectations. Not only they aren't on the same page, ever, they don't even try to explain their side to the other person. It's very much pursuer-pursued relationship, with the younger party being the former one. They also don't act like their own age. Minato is in constant panic/worn down mode, while Shin is unnaturally mature most of the time (he doesn't process feelings like a person his age would), calculating, or jealous.
2. Sexuality - I'm used to BLs trying to go around this one, which is why I was pleasantly surprised by the male lead openly claiming he's gay! Imagine my shock when they introduced his (ex)girlfriend! Did they use it to further elaborate on ML's sexuality or mental struggles? Not really. He only dated her because it was fun and why not? She took it quite well, though. Shin never questions his sexuality, not even once.
3. Student-teacher relationships - they have three of them. Minato has a lingering feelings/regrets about his past teacher, who he kissed before graduating highschool. The teacher gets reintroduced to the story, and clearing that mess up is one of the main plot points. One would expect the teacher to take a lead on something like this. Problem is, this teacher is aloof. Very much. He's a nice person otherwise, but it takes Minato a long time and many failed attempts until he confronts the teacher, and in the end it's not a big deal. For the teacher. It also doesn't provide us with any deeper insight into Minato, and was mostly used as an excuse for why Minato rejects Shin's advances imo (and a reason for Shin to get jealous yet again). The other two cases are similarly non-issue. Girl and a boy both have a crush on the same, younger teacher. Teacher isn't interested in love (or any other emotion towards human by the looks of it). One of them gets rejected. When the other confesses, they get a non-committal answer ("do whatever you want", basically). In the end, the teacher sees two lovers on a beach and thinks out loud that 'maybe love isn't that bad'. Which is very ooc for them. It isn't clear whether the teacher even is in relationship with the student, or it's just the younger party that thinks so.
4. 'Pretend partner' relationship - this was mentioned on the side and didn't amount to much. The other party considered it genuine, and still has feelings for their "boyfriend".
5. Apathy - One character had next to zero emotional capacity towards other people. And we're meant to believe they get a lover at the last minute, just like that?
6. Consent - Shin is pursuing Minato very aggressively, especially at the start. Even though Minato rejects him pretty clearly, and often. It's played for laughs.
7. "Fatefull connection" - The reason why Shin fell for Minato? Minato saved his life. From drowning. 10 years before the show takes place (so Shin was around 8). Shin claims to have loved Minato ever since, wanting to take care of Minato, protect Minato... They might want to take a closer look on how that affected 8 year old Shin on emotional and psychological level.
And that's basically it. For a plot that was this shallow and repetitive, they managed to include quite a few heavy-hitters and ultimately sweep them all under the rug.
It's one of those dramas you could watch just for the sake of watching something, as it looks good and sounds decent. Just don't expect the story to deliver much.
Great, another wasted cliffhanger π
When I said I wanted a time skip, I meant more than 6 months! At least send him to study abroad!!
*googling Momotaro* (not worth the time)
I don't know if I should be happy for Asuka, or pity him. It's an odd situation to be in.
You should have seen it from miles away, Akira-chan. Why are you acting surprised?
This is stupid.
He doesn't look like leaving...
As I've said πππ
Oh, gosh!!! This is not how you do a character development! This is how you ruin characterization. Do you really have to leave no stone unturned?
Gods, help us persevere π
Gotta give them bonus points for the effortless product placement π₯°
But they get quickly lost in that "kiss" π
If it's who I think it is, it will cost them more than a few...
This little, slimy, toad!
It's me who's having a headache here πΆ
The coupon has already expired.
That's not a 180, it's 540!
Grandma is sus.
Option 3 - Guy! He's hot, he's cute, he's open about his feelings... what are you waiting for, Dee?!
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If I had a knife in my pocket... π‘οΈ
I'm officially here for the straight couple. The ending was almost worth everything that came before it π
Just like how Cherry-Danil transcends the intentions of UN screenwriters π₯°
There's something there, I can feel it!
And no one says there can be only one couple in season 2...