Sure. Maybe he does send grieving families with good hearts to Hell for ALL ETERNITY. But he's just so funny and cute tho!!! Such a wholesome love story! I mean it's so heartwarming that he tells a 5 year old with terminal cancer "Hey kid, cheer up. Now you'll die when youre 15 instead of five And when you get to heaven, daddy won't be there because he will be burning in hell. But you will be comforted knowing he is burning for YOU. Isn't that great?!"
Since he's 200, and these people are about 40 or so, that's like a high school kid tricking a 4th grader out of his lunch money. But only instead of lunch money, it's their SOUL. But whatever. I dont' care that ML is possibly the biggest bully ever portrayed in a k-drama. The shower scene was really original and I love cake so I gave it a 10.
Why do I need to get a life? Just because you say so? Who are you? I don’t want to get a life and want to spend…
I think she gets paid to do it. I could be wrong. It might be a very young and very crazed fan. But I've suspected that with some shows - korean and chinese - part of the PR is to deploy "social influencers" and communications-major pre- and post-grad students whose literal JOB it is to sell products using fake personas.
I don't know if any of you have ever met someone majoring in a communications degree.... but I have. They get paid to do things like go to big parties or clubs and hang out with eachother and pretend to act casual and then say something like "This _______ energy drink tasts so f*cking good, omg." And then go back to normal conversation. They make dozens of twitter and insta profiles for fictitious people. They curate those fake-person pages, with pics of a hamburger they ate or a hike they took. To make those accounts look real. They do this for years sometimes. And then they sell space on their fake accounts to people for stuff like concert promotions or beverage companies.
I mean why is it with these hyped shows, they start out with such ridiculously high ratings, and then that rating steadily drops over time. I think that's because PR people are involved in artificially inflating the ratings when a show first comes out. But the PR budget for a show isn't infinite. They create the hype only for a certain period of time. The first week of a show, the first month of a show, something like that. Then they move on to a different project.
So first the ratings are being pumped. But then REAL people start watching the show and rating it with a REAL rating.
I've seen a lot of k-dramas, and they portray media PR people as exactly like this. Arent these portrayals of Public Relations departments drawn from real life examples?
Don t listen to the haters here!!!IT S A GOOD KDRAMA, THE CHEMISTRY IS INSANE!
If their chemistry was insane, then in the back half of the drama, when they're cuddling on the couch together. you'd get this feeling like they are going to rip eachother's clothes off any minute. But I didn't. I got this feeling like they're going to just eat cake and fall asleep smiling inanely at eachother.
Everyone who likes "dark MLs" and isn't having much fun with this show should immediately drop everything and…
We've discussed extensively on the SoKP page if the ML is red flag or green flag. There is no real consensus, although most people walk away saying "gray". The 25% or so of people who didn't like the show, the primary complaints were: 1) ML is too toxic for me 2) I have 2ML syndrome and 3) The romance is taking too long to happen.
I come at it from the other end of the spectrum where I love all sorts of toxic ML's and so this one to me seems pretty tame. I'd personally call him a gray flag. He is controlling. That's his main "toxic" feature. Also there is a throat-grabbing scene, I HATE those... but at the time he is suffering from a specific type of dementia/ptsd. He doesn't do it when in his right mind. I wish the chinese would give up on the throat-grabbing thing it's so so awful imo. But so that's the worst of him.
FL is def not a doormat though. Their power dynamic is about 60% ML/ 40% FL.
Everyone who likes "dark MLs" and isn't having much fun with this show should immediately drop everything and…
This one is medium-high-end on the production value. I'm trying to think of a k-drama with similar film quality. Maybe Alchemy of Souls.
The acting isn't the cheesy style, i'd say it's kind of on par with That Winter the Wind Blows, Misty, or The K2. ML is lowkey and subtle, FL is Bai Lu.... she can get a bit hammy in some of her roles, but in this one she keeps it well reigned in, and manages to keep up well on matching tones with the ML. Side characters' acting is also kept reined in. Some are a bit hammier than others, but no one is outright overacting except FL's father and mother (slightly doing that chinese overacting thing. They don't have much screentime.)
Dubbing is imo highly tolerable. It's only dubbed in some parts, with the original actor's voice with no horrible flaws, and much of it seems not dubbed. I'm watching it right now to check the dubbing, and it's that kind of dubbing where you can't really tell for sure if it's actually dubbed and where, unless you pay close attention.
But I understand if you just can't. I mean, no matter how good a Thai drama is, idk if I could make it through.
I recc it here because it's the best "dark ML" I've ever seen. I figure if you went into My Demon expecting "dark" and aren't happy with the degree of levity and cartoony-ness they gave the show, SoKP might just be your cup of tea. It's not supernatural or wuxia though. But it definitely has this undertone of Twilight-vampy that I just totally love. Where there's shots in the snow, and at night, everyone's skin is made up slightly pale, with ruby lips and great hair and ML has very intense eyebrows, is powerful, somber and self-contained (most of the time), and likes the FL in that way where at first she thinks he despises her.
what is the similarity between SOKP and LLTG? revenge & multiple ml? i was looking through recs bc im in the moods…
I looked over your watchlist, you haven't checked out Till The End Of The Moon yet? To me, that's the only historical/wuxia that even comes close to having a similar feel to this one. But to be fair, some people here didn't think they were all that alike because the dynamic between the ML and FL is different in TTEOTM.
There's a short-length c-drama that's (obviously) not as good as this one, but has a similar feel to it (kind of) called Extremely Perilous Love. Even though it's not as good, it's just a small time investment, just a one or two day binge-session. I think the ML's have a similar vibe and somewhat similar look. EPL is a wuxia/historical type as well.
I liked A Dream of Splendor, another historical c-drama, with a dark ML. But that one has a slightly lighter tone to it, the ML is dark but not as dark as Xie Wei. I thought it was extremely decent. Again, nowhere near as good as SoKP, but still good, imo.
Why is this still not in netflix. The Last Immortal is already there. Zhao Lusi is really lucky almost all her…
ikr, Xie Wei is the hottest ML I've ever seen, and considering their budget, it had such excellent cinematography. The story was clean, pacing was perfect, and the emotional tone of the show was consistent from beginning to end.... I can't find any fault with this drama at all. Except the throat-grabbing thing the chinese do that I'm not a fan of. But in his defense, he had snow dementia at the time, so even that isn't the worst thing ever.
Everyone who likes "dark MLs" and isn't having much fun with this show should immediately drop everything and…
Is it the accent? I can't make it through a thai drama because of the accents. I'm trying to think of good k-dramas with a dark ML, but c-dramas just have them beat on that, not even close. SoKP is probably the best thing I've ever watched out of like 250 dramas. If not best, then def in my top 5, easy.
First half, second half, it's all meh. I thought the "best moments" of this drama were when his eyes turn red and they let him act fierce and dangerous. It only happened a few times, just for a few seconds each time. It was a shame they didn't understand what parts they were getting wrong and what parts they were getting right.
And even in the first half, they do that thing where they break up the best scene in the episode between the ending/beginning of two episodes, to leave it on a cliffhanger to keep people tuning in for the next week. Nearly every single episode they did this. That's lame. The best scene in an episode should be uninterrupted. Its cheap and gimmicky to do what they did. If the story is strong enough to stand on it's own feet, you don't need cheap gimmicks like that to hold people's interest.
And Gina brought up a good point about how he could be hanging out at thrilling, dark dangerous places looking for souls to make deals with, but no, he's preying on grieving parents at the pediatric cancer ward. It just spilled all it's potential right down the drain from the outset. The dozen or so "good moments" in My Demon, can't make up for the double whammy of mediocrity and cringe this drama exudes. I see no first half/second half distinction, personally.
I'm doing a rewatch right now. You can tell he's falling for her from the very beginning:
In episode 2 XW says to his assistant that it's good she fears him because her fear of him will keep her tendency to disobey in check -----> this could be seen as him wanting to keep control over her so she doesn't ruin his plans. BUT it could also be seen as him coming to the slow understanding that he can keep her safe if he can control her actions, because her disobedience could and up leading to her putting HERSELF in danger. If she fears him, she will listen to him and he can protect her.
In episode 4, FL confronts XW about "why won't you let me leave the palace, it's because i know your secret and you want to keep an eye on me, isnt it." And sort of apropos of nothing, he asks her what her relationship is with Yan Lin because he'd heard they were deeply in love. ----> This could be seen as XW wanting to know more about if Yan Lin could ever find out his secret, or if YL already might know about his secret. BUT, it could also be seen as XW unable to control his curiosity about her love life, and whether her heart is spoken for. He probably doesn't let her leave the palace because he's already too curious about her to let her go.
Episode 6.... he goes to eat BBQ with Yan Lin and FL. When she starts horsing around with Yan Lin, XW gets stern with her and reprimands her while calling her Ning'er. Asserting dominance over YL's relationship with her because he already wants to claim her as his.
Since he's 200, and these people are about 40 or so, that's like a high school kid tricking a 4th grader out of his lunch money. But only instead of lunch money, it's their SOUL. But whatever. I dont' care that ML is possibly the biggest bully ever portrayed in a k-drama. The shower scene was really original and I love cake so I gave it a 10.
I don't know if any of you have ever met someone majoring in a communications degree.... but I have. They get paid to do things like go to big parties or clubs and hang out with eachother and pretend to act casual and then say something like "This _______ energy drink tasts so f*cking good, omg." And then go back to normal conversation. They make dozens of twitter and insta profiles for fictitious people. They curate those fake-person pages, with pics of a hamburger they ate or a hike they took. To make those accounts look real. They do this for years sometimes. And then they sell space on their fake accounts to people for stuff like concert promotions or beverage companies.
I mean why is it with these hyped shows, they start out with such ridiculously high ratings, and then that rating steadily drops over time. I think that's because PR people are involved in artificially inflating the ratings when a show first comes out. But the PR budget for a show isn't infinite. They create the hype only for a certain period of time. The first week of a show, the first month of a show, something like that. Then they move on to a different project.
So first the ratings are being pumped. But then REAL people start watching the show and rating it with a REAL rating.
I've seen a lot of k-dramas, and they portray media PR people as exactly like this. Arent these portrayals of Public Relations departments drawn from real life examples?
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I come at it from the other end of the spectrum where I love all sorts of toxic ML's and so this one to me seems pretty tame. I'd personally call him a gray flag. He is controlling. That's his main "toxic" feature. Also there is a throat-grabbing scene, I HATE those... but at the time he is suffering from a specific type of dementia/ptsd. He doesn't do it when in his right mind. I wish the chinese would give up on the throat-grabbing thing it's so so awful imo. But so that's the worst of him.
FL is def not a doormat though. Their power dynamic is about 60% ML/ 40% FL.
The acting isn't the cheesy style, i'd say it's kind of on par with That Winter the Wind Blows, Misty, or The K2. ML is lowkey and subtle, FL is Bai Lu.... she can get a bit hammy in some of her roles, but in this one she keeps it well reigned in, and manages to keep up well on matching tones with the ML. Side characters' acting is also kept reined in. Some are a bit hammier than others, but no one is outright overacting except FL's father and mother (slightly doing that chinese overacting thing. They don't have much screentime.)
Dubbing is imo highly tolerable. It's only dubbed in some parts, with the original actor's voice with no horrible flaws, and much of it seems not dubbed. I'm watching it right now to check the dubbing, and it's that kind of dubbing where you can't really tell for sure if it's actually dubbed and where, unless you pay close attention.
But I understand if you just can't. I mean, no matter how good a Thai drama is, idk if I could make it through.
I recc it here because it's the best "dark ML" I've ever seen. I figure if you went into My Demon expecting "dark" and aren't happy with the degree of levity and cartoony-ness they gave the show, SoKP might just be your cup of tea. It's not supernatural or wuxia though. But it definitely has this undertone of Twilight-vampy that I just totally love. Where there's shots in the snow, and at night, everyone's skin is made up slightly pale, with ruby lips and great hair and ML has very intense eyebrows, is powerful, somber and self-contained (most of the time), and likes the FL in that way where at first she thinks he despises her.
There's a short-length c-drama that's (obviously) not as good as this one, but has a similar feel to it (kind of) called Extremely Perilous Love. Even though it's not as good, it's just a small time investment, just a one or two day binge-session. I think the ML's have a similar vibe and somewhat similar look. EPL is a wuxia/historical type as well.
I liked A Dream of Splendor, another historical c-drama, with a dark ML. But that one has a slightly lighter tone to it, the ML is dark but not as dark as Xie Wei. I thought it was extremely decent. Again, nowhere near as good as SoKP, but still good, imo.
And even in the first half, they do that thing where they break up the best scene in the episode between the ending/beginning of two episodes, to leave it on a cliffhanger to keep people tuning in for the next week. Nearly every single episode they did this. That's lame. The best scene in an episode should be uninterrupted. Its cheap and gimmicky to do what they did. If the story is strong enough to stand on it's own feet, you don't need cheap gimmicks like that to hold people's interest.
And Gina brought up a good point about how he could be hanging out at thrilling, dark dangerous places looking for souls to make deals with, but no, he's preying on grieving parents at the pediatric cancer ward. It just spilled all it's potential right down the drain from the outset. The dozen or so "good moments" in My Demon, can't make up for the double whammy of mediocrity and cringe this drama exudes. I see no first half/second half distinction, personally.
In episode 4, FL confronts XW about "why won't you let me leave the palace, it's because i know your secret and you want to keep an eye on me, isnt it." And sort of apropos of nothing, he asks her what her relationship is with Yan Lin because he'd heard they were deeply in love. ----> This could be seen as XW wanting to know more about if Yan Lin could ever find out his secret, or if YL already might know about his secret. BUT, it could also be seen as XW unable to control his curiosity about her love life, and whether her heart is spoken for. He probably doesn't let her leave the palace because he's already too curious about her to let her go.
Episode 6.... he goes to eat BBQ with Yan Lin and FL. When she starts horsing around with Yan Lin, XW gets stern with her and reprimands her while calling her Ning'er. Asserting dominance over YL's relationship with her because he already wants to claim her as his.
vanessa: "I need song kang's d in my p so bad"
spale: "his dick is probably below 13cms because he is Asian"
but no, I'm the one giving you brain rot. aiyaaa....