Boys Over FlowersStrong Woman Do Bong SoonShopping King LouieAnother Miss OhJealousy IncarnateCinderella and the…
You ARE generalizing -- according to your experience. Which is to watch a bunch of dark/ edgy/ mature/ action-oriented k-dramas (such as Healer and Squid Game), and then compare them to this one j-drama, where the FL is *supposed* to be portrayed as someone with stunted emotional growth and the ML is someone who never got a real childhood. The fact that you don't even know what my list means is because you have seen about 2 of the things on that list (which is not copypaste), even though they are CLASSIC k-dramas.
The one I screenshotted for you is from k-drama Kill Me Heal Me, where the ML spends a fair amount of time in the drama LITERALLY acting like a 6-year old.
Basically, what I'm saying is, go watch Boys Over Flowers - which is one of the top 15 most watched k-dramas of all time - and then get back to me and say that again.
there’s really some difference between kdrama and jdrama … they seem more cartoonish and juvenile then the…
Boys Over Flowers Strong Woman Do Bong Soon Shopping King Louie Another Miss Oh Jealousy Incarnate Cinderella and the Four Knights Tempted Kill Me Heal Me Bride of the Century Fated To Love You Flower Boy Ramen Shop My Heart Twinkle Twinkle What Happened In Bali Motherf*cking GOONG mkay Meteor Garden Bride of Habaek Legend of the Blue Sea Cheese In The Trap
We're thinking the same thing, I've watched it 5 times, I think I'll watch it again these days, nothing catches…
It's so messed up for me, I haven't watched any SOKP in over a year. And still no matter what I watch, it's not good enough to relieve the Xie Wei burns. I wish 'Learning to Love' had more episodes, but it finally relieves the Xie Wei burns like an ice pack, at least for me.
I was liking When Destiny Brings The Demon, but it went downhill real bad. It just wasn't good enough.
People watch SOKP for the first time, and then come back and ask for reccs for shows like it and it's like "Aaaahahahhahahaa.... you think there's some other Xie Wei ML out there in dramaland, that's funny."
Underrating is a curse of j-dramas on MDL….I normally don’t rate until finished, but this is so exceptional…
It's way way too high for such a piece of crap show. K-dramas often come out with too high of a score on MDL, and sometimes - like in the case of for instance my demon - it seems just flat out suspicious.
Underrating is a curse of j-dramas on MDL….I normally don’t rate until finished, but this is so exceptional…
I've never seen this, but i don't get out much lol. I just watch stuff but am never an active fan of anything really, so I don't know how the community works. But I can see that also reflected in china vs skorea fans, so I believe what you say. I've seen the same attitudes of people before. I've also seen k-dramas where a character is japanese or half-japanese, and they treat it like it's some big deal, like they make it seem like if you're a japanese or of japanese decent in korea, you have to put up wiht a lot of stereotypes.
I also believe you about shit being pre-downrated because altho i havent seen it for myself, i've seen other communities where things happen due to some hateful bastard who runs or moderates, and just look at the scores for My Demon. That was the biggest piece of shit drama i've ever seen, and still it sits well above an 8. Thats RIGGED, I know it. I can sense it in my bones.
Underrating is a curse of j-dramas on MDL….I normally don’t rate until finished, but this is so exceptional…
sure, only if you do tho. I would love to learn if there really is something that I"m missing. I just wonder, if there was real j-prejudice, why would people watch a show and downrate it, instead of just not watching the show...? Couldn't it just be that people don't "get it" with their shows sometimes, and that's why the lower ratings?
I mean if this is tedious to discuss for you, then of course you don't have to. But I'm always open to learning new things. I have some japanese buddies, and it's funny because I don't really know a lot about japan, except hur dur anime, hur dur sushi. I want to be able to relate better, but for me that is much harder than it is for me to relate with skoreans and chinese. I can even speak and cook a fair little bit of korean and chinese, but not japanese.... and interestingly enough, that's partly because I don't watch j-dramas as much as I do k- or c-, so I don't get the same level of language and cultural exposure.
Underrating is a curse of j-dramas on MDL….I normally don’t rate until finished, but this is so exceptional…
I have seen 60 j-dramas. Here's how my scores of those dramas break down: 10- 1 drama (this one) 8.0- 6 dramas 7.5 - 12 dramas 7.0 - 13 dramas 6.5 - 8 dramas 6.0 - 6 dramas 5.5 - 5 dramas 5.0 or less - 7 dramas
This is a little bit low compared to my average scoring for k-dramas and c-dramas. But I don't do this out of a prejudice, I don't care where a drama comes from if it's good. It's just that often I don't think that j-dramas are that spectacular.
I've also noticed from what exposure I do have to japanese culture, that they often end things on either an unsatisfying or open ended note. I have a book that's a big compendium of old japanese fairy tales, and many of them don't really have much of an ending to speak of. I don't think westerners have appreciation for that kind of thing, I know I really dislike open endings.
Another thing that has probably affected my scoring of j-dramas is that, at least to my western sensibilities, their humor is very inaccessible compared to chinese, taiwanese, or korean dramas. I often don't get the joke. The way females and males relate and behave on an interpersonal and societal level is also often hard to sympathize with or understand, as a western female, when I'm watching j-dramas.
I just score based on A) My enjoyment of a show and B) If I find it has strong artistic merit. If I really did rate based on prejudices, I never would have given L2L a 10.
I'm thinking at least from my pov, that j-dramas have a harder time appealing to international audiences because of deeper differences in cultural mentality. People see them and it's like "I don't get what I'm watching."
Even clothing style can be something that makes it hard to approach a j-drama. Right now the trends appear to lean toward men in pointy shoes, frilly loose fitting clothes and highwater-hemmed pants with loose flowy fit.... the women have been on this weird kick where they dress like 1970's Breck girls... poofy sleeves, pleated high-wasited clothes, high neckline, mid-calf length full skirts, 70's textile patterns and colors, lots of muted tones and browns. And that weird thing the ladies do with their bangs is also strange.
I think Japanese culture is just very very distinct from it's neighbors and they have more of their own thing goin on, that has much more to do with insular japanese tastes, and isn't as affected by international culture and style. Which just makes it harder for a non-japanese to appreciate.
I mean maybe I'm wrong. But I felt like I had to say something, because I tend to rate j-dramas lower, and according to your reasoning, that would be because I'm prejudiced against them, and I have no such anti-japanese prejudice. If I did, I wouldn't even watch j-dramas at all because I'd just assume they will suck and then pass them up entirely.
The only dramas I tend to avoid out of a prejudice is Thai. And the reason is simply that it's so hard on my ears to listen to Thai speech. I can't get immersed in a story when they're talking like that, I find it too distracting. So even if a Thai drama is good, I still probably won't watch it.
I've been reading and watching more stuff about Raul, and I was thinking that as I was watching him, like "the…
I hope he changes his mind at some point. I dont see a lot of 50yo pop stars, but plenty of 50yo actors. He has so much talent in acting, hope he decides to keep spreading his wings in that profession.
I don’t think the background of their real lives affected this drama, they might surely be picky and choose…
Their agencies are probably not shopping either of them around for spicy scripts, is my poi nt kinda. Like dont expect spice from this pair being cast together in a project.
Thinking or how Hirugao and this drama have same musicians, I just remembered reading a fun but brain breaking…
Is hirugao a must-watch or a could-watch-if-nothing-else? I've looked at it before and never thought it looked like my cup of tea so I haven't seen it yet.
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The one I screenshotted for you is from k-drama Kill Me Heal Me, where the ML spends a fair amount of time in the drama LITERALLY acting like a 6-year old.
Basically, what I'm saying is, go watch Boys Over Flowers - which is one of the top 15 most watched k-dramas of all time - and then get back to me and say that again.
My Demon
The Heirs
My Secret Romance
Me Too Flower
Lie To Me
I'm Not A Robot
Biscuit Teacher and Star Candy
A Korean Odyssey
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Strong Woman Do Bong Soon
Shopping King Louie
Another Miss Oh
Jealousy Incarnate
Cinderella and the Four Knights
Tempted
Kill Me Heal Me
Bride of the Century
Fated To Love You
Flower Boy Ramen Shop
My Heart Twinkle Twinkle
What Happened In Bali
Motherf*cking GOONG mkay
Meteor Garden
Bride of Habaek
Legend of the Blue Sea
Cheese In The Trap
Need I go on.
I was liking When Destiny Brings The Demon, but it went downhill real bad. It just wasn't good enough.
People watch SOKP for the first time, and then come back and ask for reccs for shows like it and it's like "Aaaahahahhahahaa.... you think there's some other Xie Wei ML out there in dramaland, that's funny."
I also believe you about shit being pre-downrated because altho i havent seen it for myself, i've seen other communities where things happen due to some hateful bastard who runs or moderates, and just look at the scores for My Demon. That was the biggest piece of shit drama i've ever seen, and still it sits well above an 8. Thats RIGGED, I know it. I can sense it in my bones.
I mean if this is tedious to discuss for you, then of course you don't have to. But I'm always open to learning new things. I have some japanese buddies, and it's funny because I don't really know a lot about japan, except hur dur anime, hur dur sushi. I want to be able to relate better, but for me that is much harder than it is for me to relate with skoreans and chinese. I can even speak and cook a fair little bit of korean and chinese, but not japanese.... and interestingly enough, that's partly because I don't watch j-dramas as much as I do k- or c-, so I don't get the same level of language and cultural exposure.
10- 1 drama (this one)
8.0- 6 dramas
7.5 - 12 dramas
7.0 - 13 dramas
6.5 - 8 dramas
6.0 - 6 dramas
5.5 - 5 dramas
5.0 or less - 7 dramas
This is a little bit low compared to my average scoring for k-dramas and c-dramas. But I don't do this out of a prejudice, I don't care where a drama comes from if it's good. It's just that often I don't think that j-dramas are that spectacular.
I've also noticed from what exposure I do have to japanese culture, that they often end things on either an unsatisfying or open ended note. I have a book that's a big compendium of old japanese fairy tales, and many of them don't really have much of an ending to speak of. I don't think westerners have appreciation for that kind of thing, I know I really dislike open endings.
Another thing that has probably affected my scoring of j-dramas is that, at least to my western sensibilities, their humor is very inaccessible compared to chinese, taiwanese, or korean dramas. I often don't get the joke. The way females and males relate and behave on an interpersonal and societal level is also often hard to sympathize with or understand, as a western female, when I'm watching j-dramas.
I just score based on A) My enjoyment of a show and B) If I find it has strong artistic merit. If I really did rate based on prejudices, I never would have given L2L a 10.
I'm thinking at least from my pov, that j-dramas have a harder time appealing to international audiences because of deeper differences in cultural mentality. People see them and it's like "I don't get what I'm watching."
Even clothing style can be something that makes it hard to approach a j-drama. Right now the trends appear to lean toward men in pointy shoes, frilly loose fitting clothes and highwater-hemmed pants with loose flowy fit.... the women have been on this weird kick where they dress like 1970's Breck girls... poofy sleeves, pleated high-wasited clothes, high neckline, mid-calf length full skirts, 70's textile patterns and colors, lots of muted tones and browns. And that weird thing the ladies do with their bangs is also strange.
I think Japanese culture is just very very distinct from it's neighbors and they have more of their own thing goin on, that has much more to do with insular japanese tastes, and isn't as affected by international culture and style. Which just makes it harder for a non-japanese to appreciate.
I mean maybe I'm wrong. But I felt like I had to say something, because I tend to rate j-dramas lower, and according to your reasoning, that would be because I'm prejudiced against them, and I have no such anti-japanese prejudice. If I did, I wouldn't even watch j-dramas at all because I'd just assume they will suck and then pass them up entirely.
The only dramas I tend to avoid out of a prejudice is Thai. And the reason is simply that it's so hard on my ears to listen to Thai speech. I can't get immersed in a story when they're talking like that, I find it too distracting. So even if a Thai drama is good, I still probably won't watch it.