monstersnroses

In Chinese, the word(s) for demon don't have true english equivalents. The word "demon" is just what comes closest out of the english words for those characters.

But 'demon' is used as a translation for the words "gui", "mo" "jing" "guai" and "yao". Yet each of those chinese characters mean something different and something specific that english just doesn't have good translation words for so they just slap the word 'demon' on it.

I gave TTEOTM a 9 back when it came out. I decided to do a rewatch, and that's how I found your review. I saw your score and was like "whaaattt, are you smokin crack what is going on here". But after reading it, and watching it for the 2nd time, you actually made me re-think my score because your review was so good.

I was like "oh my god, i AM drunk on LYX juice."

I used to see your reviews and not really read them because they look like textwalls, but now I'm lowkey addicted to them.

I don't always agree with your take on stuff, but I love that you explain and reason out your opinions in a way that's logical and fun to read, and hard to argue with. I also love that you are brutal about ratings, some people won't give anything below an 8 no matter what, and you can't trust what they say about a show lol.

This one I got maybe 10? episodes in, and fell so so hard for the white haired vampy guy that I had to stop watching knowing he wasn't her endgame. I remember thinking all the dialoguing was really tedious, and since I loved the vamp so much, I started to kind of hate ML and 2ML's faces. Like "No one ordered the yappy meal! Get off the screen!!!"

I wish our tastes in shows lined up more, because if they did, I'd just work straight down your watchlist. But... as you can see from my boycott of LYF over the vamp not getting the girl, I am hopelessy a sucker for Toxic Love. Because in rl I have issues lol. You seem much more healthy and well adjusted than me.

Anyways, I'll upvote any review you make, they are super fun to read. TY for making them.

I rewatched like 4 times, and then I had to stop, and I told myself that I wouldn't rewatch till I'd mostly forgotten about how the story goes.

But it's like a curse! Everything I watch is 'not as good as SOKP' and I just keep coming back here to cry about it. 😭😭😭

I have never wanted to conk my head with a cast-iron frypan and get selective amnesia so much in my life.

I'm excited for you that you're exploring c-dramas, that's cool. You will definitely find some good ones that you love, even if it's not this one.

So in this drama people's first watch (including me) they tend to get kind of antsy. I remember coming to the comment section when I was about halfway through like "yo, why am I watching this again? does anything really happen? why is this so boring?" and people were like KEEP GOING! So I did, and now it's my all-time favorite drama. But the romance doesn't even really get started till somewhere around ep 27 I think. There's also a little bit of forced-kiss action and some people who watch this get super turned off by that.

But the most common complaint of people who didn't like this drama is they get really hooked on 2ML way more than the ML.

I just perused your watchlist, and I figure that if you don't like it at all by now, you're not gonna like it by the end. Your tastes are so different from what this drama is.

Recc's based on your watchlist that are historical/wuxia/xianxia

The Long Ballad (I have a feeling this is gonna be your drama right here, this is my top recc)
Blossom
The Prisoner of Beauty
My Uncanny Destiny
Rise of the Phoenixes

also possibly but not as sure it would be your kind of thing but you could try

Legend of Shen Li
A Dream of Splendor
The Princess Royal

reccs if you want to stay with c-dramas but venture out of costume dramas:

Amidst A Snowstorm of Love
Fake It Till You Make It
My Fated Boy


All of these reccs are popular c-dramas to get you started, that show you what a c-drama can really do if done well. They are all highly character-driven with characters that are really 3-d personalities that get you invested emotionally in them. They all have good scripts so the story itself won't let you down. They don't have too much (or sometimes none) of that dark, toxic red-flag vibe to the romance or to the leads.... and yet the stories are engaging and colorful and have some depth/seriousness.

SOKP is really subtle, slow-burn. The 2ML and 3ML pull at you a lot like you might want her to end up with either of them for different reasons. The palace-intrigue part of the story is very dry. Xie Wei the ML is toxic, and he never gets better as far as that goes. Bai Lu is Bai Lu. Take it or leave it.

In this story, the romance between ML and FL is the dinner, and every other character is like the tomato rosette and the sprigs of parsley arranged attractively on the side of the meal. They mean nothing in the end, they are vehicles for the main story. They'll never have their own personhoods, and I can see from your watchlist that you like character-driven stories a lot, and dramas that have a kind of ensemble feel. So this would torture you I'm thinking. Here, if you go soft on any side character, they will end badly, betray people, not succeed, not get the girl, have something bad happen to them, and their threads will be dropped as soon as they stop serving the main couple's story. The highlight of the drama is this kinda semi-toxic slow-burn romance, so if you don't like ML and FL's screentime now, this might be a hard watch for you, idk.

I really think you'd like The Long Ballad.

> deflected the question

sounds about right.

>sounds rigth about that … but you misspelled it … figure that out

oh that was chatgpt, not me.

You just joined the comment section of one of the best j-dramas to come out in the past 2 decades, and said 'hey guys i just came here to say j-dramas are childish and k-dramas arent' without any of the watchlist to back up that assessment. When confronted with the facts, instead of wanting to know more, or engage on an intellectually honest level, you say "I'll just ignore anything that challenges my lo-exposure opinion, and stay comfy in my ignorance."

It really begs the question, how is that not racism?

no, i just happen to be erudite.

Your first comment in this thread was:

"there’s really some difference between kdrama and jdrama … they seem more cartoonish and juvenile then the Korean series ." I am quoting YOU here.

Then when you got challenged on that, you wrote this:

" I’m not generalising "

Yet your very first comment was indeed a generalization about j-dramas vs k-dramas. And I am telling you - with reciepts - that your original generalization that "there’s really some difference between kdrama and jdrama … they seem more cartoonish and juvenile then the Korean series ." is an inaccurate generalization based on lack of exposure to k-dramas that are childish/cartoonish, and lack of exposure to j-dramas that are not childish/cartoonish.

There are boatloads of k-dramas that display childish or cartoonish characters, and there are boatloads of j-dramas that don't. But since you lack exposure to these dramas, it has caused you to form an **inaccurate** opinion. This is called "selection bias", and it leads to flawed conclusions.

It's the same as saying "Once I had chinese street food cooked in gutter oil, and once I had japanese tempura at a 4-star restaurant, and since the tempura was better than the gutter oil food, that means japanese food is better than chinese food."

tysm im gonna check it out<3 <3 <3

>there’s really some difference between kdrama and jdrama … they seem more cartoonish and juvenile then the Korean series .

Im quoting ur original comment. It is a generalization.

Yes, where the behavior of main characters is childish/cartoonish/ immature, for whatever reason.

For example:

Goong - all main characters have the mentality of middle school kids
BoF, Meteor Garden, Jealousy Incarnate - radically immature ML's
A Korean Odyssey - The ML plays a monkey god that literally wants to turn the FL into korean barbecue sauce (and that is in fact, the main plotline, not just some side-joke)
My Demon - All supporting characters are cartoonishly immature ("Justin on the right and Austin on the left!")
Tempted - 3 young "adults" that make a bet they can humiliate the FL
Biscuit Teacher and Star Candy - where you can watch Gong Yoo pretend to be 17 years old
My Secret Romance - ML turns FL into a lunch lady for his amusement
My Heart Twinkle Twinkle - ML goes to war with FL over a chicken restaurant
Kill Me Heal Me - ML literally thinks he's a child for a significant portion of the drama
Strong Woman Do Bong Soon - ML hires FL and then gives her an office space which is literally a child's playhouse

You ARE generalizing -- according to your experience. Which is to watch a bunch of dark/ edgy/ mature/ action-oriented k-dramas (such as Healer and Squid Game), and then compare them to this one j-drama, where the FL is *supposed* to be portrayed as someone with stunted emotional growth and the ML is someone who never got a real childhood. The fact that you don't even know what my list means is because you have seen about 2 of the things on that list (which is not copypaste), even though they are CLASSIC k-dramas.

The one I screenshotted for you is from k-drama Kill Me Heal Me, where the ML spends a fair amount of time in the drama LITERALLY acting like a 6-year old.

Basically, what I'm saying is, go watch Boys Over Flowers - which is one of the top 15 most watched k-dramas of all time - and then get back to me and say that again.

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My Demon
The Heirs
My Secret Romance
Me Too Flower
Lie To Me
I'm Not A Robot
Biscuit Teacher and Star Candy
A Korean Odyssey

https://i.imgflip.com/a6442y.jpg

Boys Over Flowers
Strong Woman Do Bong Soon
Shopping King Louie
Another Miss Oh
Jealousy Incarnate
Cinderella and the Four Knights
Tempted
Kill Me Heal Me
Bride of the Century
Fated To Love You
Flower Boy Ramen Shop
My Heart Twinkle Twinkle
What Happened In Bali
Motherf*cking GOONG mkay
Meteor Garden
Bride of Habaek
Legend of the Blue Sea
Cheese In The Trap

Need I go on.

I have had actual rl stalkers. Believe me, it takes a lot more than looking at someone's watchlist to qualify them as a stalker.

whaaattt how does she have gochujang already made and ready to go? I know you can speed up fermentation time in a rice cooker?

Maybe you could try Supervisor Husband. I'll try to think of other ones today and get back if I can think of some.