Whoaaa, this is good. I was just going to preview it for a few minutes and i got sucked in so fast, and now I'm waiting impatiently for more episodes, a situation I don't like being in!
This freaking Tae Hun is the most annoyed character i have seen in 2025 drama after Bongsu from Heads over Heels.…
In the first and second significant interactions with him, the second things stop going HIS way, his violent tendencies surface. That's narcissism, baby!
I watch some really toxic and messed up romances and enjoy them, but to think narcissism is sexy and romantic is a very strange kink even for me.
Can someone please tell me why this dorama failed? I had big plans for it, but it's boring as hell to watch.(
I'm beginning to suspect the script was at least partially written by AI. I could be wrong, idk.
To me, another failure of this is that it's been labelled a 'romance' and there is barely any romance element to it. It's labelled as an action and there's not much of that. It's labelled as a melodrama, and yet lacks dramatic tension. What even is this? Mobster slice of life?
Did anyone watch The Spies Who Loved Me? That show had the same problem. Eric Mun was so fiery and spicy in Que Sera Sera, and then was really good in Another Miss Oh.... and then Spies Who Loved Me looked like it was going to be really fun, but it was a long slow motion face plant. And it also had a genre identity-crisis thing goin on.
yes. There's nothing all *that* wrong with it, it's just boring and uninspired, and seems unable to pick a genre…
I loved the first season of Stranger Things, and when I heard a season 2 had come out, I knew it was going to be worse, because Season 1 was a complete package, it doesn't need a season 2. Even my kids, who can watch anything they want from any time they want, are right now watching Peaky Blinders, Boardwalk Empire, and Sopranos.
I gravitate towards vampires, red flag romances, angsty, antihero, etc. And I started A Discovery of Witches and found season 1 to be a really watchable (I won't say it was good, but watchable yes). But season 2 got worse, and i stopped at the first episode of season 3 like 'i quit'.
Its truly ironic that out of all the countries in this world, the ones making the most adventurous, creative content right now are Chinese. At least from my romance-only pov anyways.
K dramas got international attention for being creative, adventurous and boundary breaking, and for being raw and full of great acting and writing.... and now that they have international audiences, they are no longer any of those things lol.
I wonder if AI is involved in the script writing these days. I'm an amateur fiction writer, and once I used chatgpt to help me write a fiction story. I was at first totally blown away by how FAST and EASY it was to finish a fiction work that way. But after it was finished, I realized it didn't feel like 'me', and I had turned out something very boilerplate and "typical" and I didn't like it. But like Nice Guy, thinking on it, has this similar feel of the script not having a lot of personal touch or idiosyncrasies. Just makes me think is all.
"The Secret" is a separate pain.... I've never seen anything like it! I need more ambiguous dramas, from…
I tried to recc Secret to someone last month, and it took me forever to find a link for it, idk why that drama is so hard to find these days because it's a CLASSIC.
yes. There's nothing all *that* wrong with it, it's just boring and uninspired, and seems unable to pick a genre…
Yes this. I don't mind some wokeness in shows or moral preaching, especially when it comes to women's rights and treating women and minorities with a more progressive mindset, because RL SKorea can still be a somewhat misogynist place from what i've seen/heard. But it's when it's added to the show in a way that makes it feel like it doesn't really belong there, that it becomes cringe and feels "corporate" to me like it's pandering to US dollars and production teams.
Maybe SK shows are becoming more violent, but I wouldn't know because if it isn't a romance, I don't watch it normally. The only time I venture outside of romances is for the occasional comedy.
Which again is totally American to preach all these values at people and then turn around and produce a bunch of empty violent content. Aigoo.
I remember when you could watch crazy k-dramas like fashion king, boys over flowers, what happened in bali, que sera sera, that winter the wind blows, my heart twinkle twinkle, secret, kill me heal me....
Never thought I'd see a day on this platform when C dramas are more watched than K dramas... What exactly is happening…
yes. There's nothing all *that* wrong with it, it's just boring and uninspired, and seems unable to pick a genre which makes it alllllmost feel slice-of-life.
I'll watch anything good, which is why i've only seen about 5 k-dramas in the past year, but i've seen probably 50-100 c-dramas. It used to be flipped, i used to watch mostly k-dramas but the've tanked. I suspect the invasion of american money into the k-entertainment environment caused this (such as disney and netflix etc), and now such large sums are involved in some productions, that korean producers and creative artists are afraid to take any risks, and "play it safe"... or try to cater expressly to american money interests, so they sanitize everything risky or questionable, tone everything down, and inject wokeness in random places where it doesn't belong.
A Stalker should be hated, no matter what but not loved neither liked!! Disgusting, people like Tea Hoon's stalking…
I have had 2 instances in RL of stalkers who I got legal restraining orders against, and despite this, I sometimes really love the stalker-romances. BUT NOT THIS ONE. He is from the absolute outset of everything, a classic narcissist, he screams 'future wife-beater', this is legit not attractive, even to someone as messed up as me. You would have to be a self-hating female on a level I can barely comprehend to think his behavior is attractive in any way.
Where is the growth for the FL character? The end of episode 10 points to her having no growth in this drama
I almost didn't watch this because of the FL. I have been supremely dissappointed in her acting several times. But she's very good in this role, like it was tailor made for her because the emotional range matches her actual acting range.... she can play quiet, afraid, timid, overwhelmed, nice but not all that quick witted, innocent and oblivious, and afraid of intimacy.
If there is any significant character growth in her arc, she won't be able to act it with any degree of realism at all. She can't do anything out of her own emotional range.
For me the good of all this is she isn't ruining this drama for me like she has in other dramas i've watched with her cast as the FL. The script does that all by itself.
Just because you don't have any loved ones who have suffered damages, doesn't mean you can be dismissive about those of us who do. People her age do not generally get strokes. and her symptoms line up completely. So it's worth mentioning. Girl.
All her symptoms line up with people who have gotten vaxx damage. Even the mental issues. People have gotten aphasia/stroke/bell's palsey from it. Some people have gotten POTS-like and anxiety symptoms from racing heart rate even while sitting doing nothing. People have broken out with rashes and hives and other skin problems (sometimes just at the site of the injection, but other times all over their bodies). Aching joints, also yes.
This is the elephant in the room no one wants to address. Not the govt, not the medical community, and not the general population who were coerced into taking it. But the fact of the matter is mrna "vaccines" (they aren't true vaccines in the classical sense) are new, and experimental, and no one knows the consequences of them yet. They stay in you forever, you cannot undo an mrna vaccine. No one wants to think there's something they took that could wreck them someday, that they can't reverse. So you get this silence on the issue, on everyones part. And god forbid you start experiencing vaxx-related symptoms, no one wants to see or hear about it.
They give her antihistamines for her anxiety, tell her she must be having allergies because she's broken out into hives, say the aphasia was a stroke, but don't address why someone her age would suddenly have a stroke.... she's being gaslit by everyone. And the only alternative is to say "sorry youre one of the unlucky ones who is having adverse reactions to the mrna vaccine, and there's nothing we can do for you because we have no experience dealing with anything like this. Oops, sorry. Here, have a benadryl."
Well either there's terms in the contract that directly address what happens if the actor gets sick, or there's not. And if there's not, my move as the sick actor/actress would be to seek whatever medical attention was needed for my mental/physical health, carefully document everything, and then get my lawyer(s) lined up and expect to have to take it to court to have it sorted out.
The idea of a party A and a party B having a contract dispute is nothing new... because a contract is an agreement for the future. Yet the future by it's very nature is uncertain. What if I hire a roofer to re-do my roof, and pay him half up front, and then before he can do the roof there's a tornado that rips the whole top of my house off? Naturally that would trigger a dispute over who keeps the up-front cost.
So if her agency has pre-booked other projects, and any money has been exchanged or spent in preparation for those projects, and then she can't fulfill her end of those projects, who pays for that? Actors and actresses come up against this all the time, you'd think there should *always* be clauses in their contracts for such an occurrence. Just because of how tricky it is when sometimes a deal falls through due to something unforseen.
oh look, another 'fl is drugged and begs ml for sex' scenario 🙄. seems to be this director's specialty. he…
In many cultures it's seen as unbecoming of a female to be "begging for it"... it makes her kind of like a 'lady of the night', to put it delicately. The plot vehicle of the aphrodisiac makes the scenario possible where A) The man wasnt' pushing her into it B) The woman isn't seen as cheap for 'wanting it'... it was the drug's fault! No one can be blamed for this moral transgression! ML and FL are both pure, they were under extreme duress!
Anyway, that's why it's leaned on so heavily as a cliche. Not a lot of other plot devices can bring a morally upright FL and ML together before marriage quite like a well-placed aphrodisiac drug.
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I watch some really toxic and messed up romances and enjoy them, but to think narcissism is sexy and romantic is a very strange kink even for me.
To me, another failure of this is that it's been labelled a 'romance' and there is barely any romance element to it. It's labelled as an action and there's not much of that. It's labelled as a melodrama, and yet lacks dramatic tension. What even is this? Mobster slice of life?
Did anyone watch The Spies Who Loved Me? That show had the same problem. Eric Mun was so fiery and spicy in Que Sera Sera, and then was really good in Another Miss Oh.... and then Spies Who Loved Me looked like it was going to be really fun, but it was a long slow motion face plant. And it also had a genre identity-crisis thing goin on.
I gravitate towards vampires, red flag romances, angsty, antihero, etc. And I started A Discovery of Witches and found season 1 to be a really watchable (I won't say it was good, but watchable yes). But season 2 got worse, and i stopped at the first episode of season 3 like 'i quit'.
Its truly ironic that out of all the countries in this world, the ones making the most adventurous, creative content right now are Chinese. At least from my romance-only pov anyways.
K dramas got international attention for being creative, adventurous and boundary breaking, and for being raw and full of great acting and writing.... and now that they have international audiences, they are no longer any of those things lol.
I wonder if AI is involved in the script writing these days. I'm an amateur fiction writer, and once I used chatgpt to help me write a fiction story. I was at first totally blown away by how FAST and EASY it was to finish a fiction work that way. But after it was finished, I realized it didn't feel like 'me', and I had turned out something very boilerplate and "typical" and I didn't like it. But like Nice Guy, thinking on it, has this similar feel of the script not having a lot of personal touch or idiosyncrasies. Just makes me think is all.
Maybe SK shows are becoming more violent, but I wouldn't know because if it isn't a romance, I don't watch it normally. The only time I venture outside of romances is for the occasional comedy.
Which again is totally American to preach all these values at people and then turn around and produce a bunch of empty violent content. Aigoo.
what happened.
I'll watch anything good, which is why i've only seen about 5 k-dramas in the past year, but i've seen probably 50-100 c-dramas. It used to be flipped, i used to watch mostly k-dramas but the've tanked. I suspect the invasion of american money into the k-entertainment environment caused this (such as disney and netflix etc), and now such large sums are involved in some productions, that korean producers and creative artists are afraid to take any risks, and "play it safe"... or try to cater expressly to american money interests, so they sanitize everything risky or questionable, tone everything down, and inject wokeness in random places where it doesn't belong.
If there is any significant character growth in her arc, she won't be able to act it with any degree of realism at all. She can't do anything out of her own emotional range.
For me the good of all this is she isn't ruining this drama for me like she has in other dramas i've watched with her cast as the FL. The script does that all by itself.
This is the elephant in the room no one wants to address. Not the govt, not the medical community, and not the general population who were coerced into taking it. But the fact of the matter is mrna "vaccines" (they aren't true vaccines in the classical sense) are new, and experimental, and no one knows the consequences of them yet. They stay in you forever, you cannot undo an mrna vaccine. No one wants to think there's something they took that could wreck them someday, that they can't reverse. So you get this silence on the issue, on everyones part. And god forbid you start experiencing vaxx-related symptoms, no one wants to see or hear about it.
They give her antihistamines for her anxiety, tell her she must be having allergies because she's broken out into hives, say the aphasia was a stroke, but don't address why someone her age would suddenly have a stroke.... she's being gaslit by everyone. And the only alternative is to say "sorry youre one of the unlucky ones who is having adverse reactions to the mrna vaccine, and there's nothing we can do for you because we have no experience dealing with anything like this. Oops, sorry. Here, have a benadryl."
The idea of a party A and a party B having a contract dispute is nothing new... because a contract is an agreement for the future. Yet the future by it's very nature is uncertain. What if I hire a roofer to re-do my roof, and pay him half up front, and then before he can do the roof there's a tornado that rips the whole top of my house off? Naturally that would trigger a dispute over who keeps the up-front cost.
So if her agency has pre-booked other projects, and any money has been exchanged or spent in preparation for those projects, and then she can't fulfill her end of those projects, who pays for that? Actors and actresses come up against this all the time, you'd think there should *always* be clauses in their contracts for such an occurrence. Just because of how tricky it is when sometimes a deal falls through due to something unforseen.
Anyway, that's why it's leaned on so heavily as a cliche. Not a lot of other plot devices can bring a morally upright FL and ML together before marriage quite like a well-placed aphrodisiac drug.