@roddib @ga on-a, I am, like you, horrified by these people who stand with their fingers outstretched, pointing…
He does have a will to defend himself. That's what he called the presser for. His method of defending himself is to admit he has sacrificed his humanity for his career on occasion... that he's lied, and that he would do it again... to fake cry as he declares he's about to sue a poor and bereaved family for a bazillion dollars they don't have... and to not provide any verifiable proofs of innocence.
That's his will to defend himself.
I think you may be missing the essence of all this:
His bad publicity, his ruined social standing, his product endorsements running away, Knock Off being shelved indefinitely..... all this could go away at any time if he were to bring to the public some evidences of his innocence. So why hasn't he? Why is this the best he can do to defend himself?
He said he lied in past and he will lie in the future in the same situation. That proves everything. If OJ can…
Whether he is a groomer, pdf, and an extortionist, has nothing to do with the "official outcome" of anything. Why are you so hung up on what a future SKorean court says about this issue?
KSR's family and various knetz have provided evidences, which you can look at for yourself. You can decide what you think of it on your own, you don't need officials to help you think.
KSH had his opportunity to refute the claims and provide counter-evidences at his "presser". Instead, he used that public stage to admit he lied and would lie again, admit that he sacrificed his human sensibilities to uphold his star image, refuse to call KSR by her name even though he dated her for over half a decade, and fake-cry while announcing he was suing a poor bereaved family for a bazillion dollars they don't have and never will have.
That was the sum total of his counter-argument that he's innocent. That was all he could muster.
What I find especially telling, is that KSH and GM have not come out with proofs that exonerate them of the extortion accusation. All companies have to keep accounting records and communications records. If he were innocent of extortion, all he and GM would have to do, is show their accounting records where KSR's DUI actually DID cost them half a million dollars, and show the communications with KSR to prove he didn't ghost her after she received the extortion letters. That should be exceedingly easy to do, if he were innocent.
And yet what he offered up to the public as an explanation, was fake crying.
The OP of the LJH statement goes "Soo he is not banned from talking about KSR"
And then one of the commenters goes "He is banned, there was an official statement from news articles in Korea saying that the stalking order was granted. He is just blatantly breaking the court's orders and lying in his channel right now as he removes any comments pointing out his lies. It's common for male perpetrators to do this as they believe they are above the law and think they can get away but this will further worsen his case in court."
this piece of shit and his fake tears during that conference… he was so fake , I don’t even know how can some…
The bitch dug his own grave with that.
I try to imagine what bts conversations led to that genius decision, and all I can see in my mind that seems realistic, is that it was a room full of other Cluster B people... like 4 or 5 narcissists in a room together, the lawyer, GM-brother-cousin-guy, KSH and maybe one or two other people, and they're ALL narcissists. So when KSH is like "How dare she do this to me! I'll sue the bitch into oblivion and cry about it on TV!" none of them try to stop him, because none of them see the problem. **Since they don't have normal emotions either, they don't realize KSH can't convincingly cry.**
What else could explain that level of sheer stupidity. Just the logic of "No one can tell I'm fake crying." And actually believing it.
Some of you probably already caught this, but here is a 15min conversation between two SKorean lawyers taking…
EDIT: There's more stuff in that vid, but I think I'll end up summarizing it wrong. But I'll try...
I thiiiiink what they're saying also (???) is that the court will take into account that when KSR's family released the photos and what-have-you's, everyone knew - like the public, and the family - that this wasn't illegal, or at least nothing she could prove for court, so there was no judicial recourse for her. And wanting to seek justice, she COULDN'T do it through the courts, and this makes her motivations for coming instead to the public, sympathetic and understandable.
Like "Why would you release those photos" "Well because I knew I couldn't take it to court, but something was clearly done wrong here, so I took it to the public instead."
Some of you probably already caught this, but here is a 15min conversation between two SKorean lawyers taking about how it's likely KSH will lose his defamation case against KSR's family:
TLDW: 1) To win a defamation case, KSH would not only have to prove through proper court-affiliated forensics that the images released by KSR's family were faked... but he'd also have to prove that KSR's family *knew* they were faked and intentionally spread false info. Which he's not likely to be able to do. 2) During his presser, he said he had lied in the past, and if faced with the same situation he would do it again. A court will not want to hear this, and looks down on plantiffs and defendants that show no regret, remorse, or reflection on their actions. It will harm his own credibility in court.
yes, the flowers he's receiving proves how blind and dumb his fans are!
It serves him right for cultivating such a vapid fanbase that they're sending money to an unaffiliated website to try to save him with non-existent flowers.
don't know why some ppl always post just to act like they're above everyone else. "both sides""that's not the…
Also, it's not like when she was 15 they suddenly met at the mall and hit it off. He had known her since she was HOW old again? 12? 7? He had is eye on her for a while before they dated. He watched her grow up, I mean come ON how creepy is that?!?!
yes, the flowers he's receiving proves how blind and dumb his fans are!
KSH ---> On the hook with Disney for possibly 100mil, shitting his pants with fear FANS --> "Perhaps the purchase of yet another virtual flower to my fantasy-boyfriend will help lessen his struggles..."
Definitely here for Li Jiu Lin. This drama had a great potential, but, I was looking for that burning passion…
I thought it was kind of "off" because they are trying to build tension that leads to this incredible kiss... I was picking up from the beginning that this actor keeps a different reputation, like Dilraba or just someone less 'sullied' by racier roles.
Well there's too much bullshit between scenes of tension, so it was trying my patience, but he is handsome, so I stick with the show. And I'm thinking "fine then, if all this builds to is an incredible kiss, then let's see this amazing kiss then."
And you get 3. The one in the snow, the long one, and the upside down one. Well, the one in the snow was pretty good if you ask me. Not good enough to justify hanging out that many episodes for, but decent. The second one was like whaaaaaat.... is that....? It's way way too long like super gratuitous, and just WEIRD. The third one was sweet but kinda dumb.
All in all, i don't know how worth it that investment of my time was. I guess it was a whatever OK and I'll give it a 7. I love both those actors, the script was a lil bit crappy.
I viewed it as the ML is dead and the FL is dreaming he's with her. But it could also be seen as he's somehow…
I'm like 95% convinced he dead. Because. It goes white curtain falls (symbolism... white = death / curtain = division and separation), then the young man is clearly her son. Then she's smiling at the kid, and the smile turns into the upside down kiss. Because her love for her son is a continuation of her love for ML. The fact that he's upside down shows he's coming from an opposite "something". Like the afterlife. And it means their love is still active even though they are separated by the veil that divides life from afterlife. For them it's not over and they'll reincarnate into something better because their karma from this life has them at big net positive points.
This makes it a sad ending, but actually a happier one, ultimately. Kind of clever and sweet, but I still hated the ending all in all.
Some of you in recent weeks have dared to question our Dear Leader, Kim Soo Hyun. Just because actress s*ic*ded on his birthday. But why you do not ask yourself. What kind of monster would dare to defile Dear Leader's birthday like this!?
You have lost sight of the fact that Dear Leader is worth more than a thousand mere mortals! Whoever have lost their lives in the pursuit to capture his affection pales in comparison to what he has done for the people! He has strengthened our economy, provided jobs food and housing, and brought peace and stability to our nation! Now he have to protect himself from baseless accusations also! This is too much for me.
That is why I have quit my job at the waffle stand in the mall to spend FULL TIME devoted to internets to spread the word that Supreme Leader Kim Soo Hyun is loved by The People and would never do anything wrong!
There once was a STAR named Soo Hyun Who preyed upon children for fun After young girls he lusted Until he got busted His career is now basically done
To try to explain it away After silence for thirty-odd days He talked like a prick And smeared on some tear stick At a presser with no Q&A
Which didn't assuage peoples fears That he'd groomed his poor victims for years He thought he'd deceived them But no one believed him Now they call him the King of Fake Tears!
Whatever you put the magnifying glass on, it grows. If you focus on hatred and malice, it will grow. If you want…
I say grow a sense of moral indignation at the idea of a rich and powerful 27 year old grooming a 15 year old child and then extorting her when she get too old to 'do it' for him and ghosting her when she has a mental breakdown due to having to cope with his cluster B personality disorders for over 5 years, leaving her to commit a desperate act of suicide on his birthday.
Spammy Kdiddy fans today. It's exactly the same as hearing someone tell you something you'd rather not hear and just sticking your fingers in your ears and going "Lalalalala i can't hear you lalalalalalalalal!"
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That's his will to defend himself.
I think you may be missing the essence of all this:
His bad publicity, his ruined social standing, his product endorsements running away, Knock Off being shelved indefinitely..... all this could go away at any time if he were to bring to the public some evidences of his innocence. So why hasn't he? Why is this the best he can do to defend himself?
KSR's family and various knetz have provided evidences, which you can look at for yourself. You can decide what you think of it on your own, you don't need officials to help you think.
KSH had his opportunity to refute the claims and provide counter-evidences at his "presser". Instead, he used that public stage to admit he lied and would lie again, admit that he sacrificed his human sensibilities to uphold his star image, refuse to call KSR by her name even though he dated her for over half a decade, and fake-cry while announcing he was suing a poor bereaved family for a bazillion dollars they don't have and never will have.
That was the sum total of his counter-argument that he's innocent. That was all he could muster.
What I find especially telling, is that KSH and GM have not come out with proofs that exonerate them of the extortion accusation. All companies have to keep accounting records and communications records. If he were innocent of extortion, all he and GM would have to do, is show their accounting records where KSR's DUI actually DID cost them half a million dollars, and show the communications with KSR to prove he didn't ghost her after she received the extortion letters. That should be exceedingly easy to do, if he were innocent.
And yet what he offered up to the public as an explanation, was fake crying.
https://imgur.com/JhI0WYw
The OP of the LJH statement goes "Soo he is not banned from talking about KSR"
And then one of the commenters goes "He is banned, there was an official statement from news articles in Korea saying that the stalking order was granted. He is just blatantly breaking the court's orders and lying in his channel right now as he removes any comments pointing out his lies. It's common for male perpetrators to do this as they believe they are above the law and think they can get away but this will further worsen his case in court."
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/kdramas/comments/1j8kewt/late_kim_sae_ron_kim_soo_hyun_current_situation/?rdt=44505&sort=new
I try to imagine what bts conversations led to that genius decision, and all I can see in my mind that seems realistic, is that it was a room full of other Cluster B people... like 4 or 5 narcissists in a room together, the lawyer, GM-brother-cousin-guy, KSH and maybe one or two other people, and they're ALL narcissists. So when KSH is like "How dare she do this to me! I'll sue the bitch into oblivion and cry about it on TV!" none of them try to stop him, because none of them see the problem. **Since they don't have normal emotions either, they don't realize KSH can't convincingly cry.**
What else could explain that level of sheer stupidity. Just the logic of "No one can tell I'm fake crying." And actually believing it.
I thiiiiink what they're saying also (???) is that the court will take into account that when KSR's family released the photos and what-have-you's, everyone knew - like the public, and the family - that this wasn't illegal, or at least nothing she could prove for court, so there was no judicial recourse for her. And wanting to seek justice, she COULDN'T do it through the courts, and this makes her motivations for coming instead to the public, sympathetic and understandable.
Like "Why would you release those photos"
"Well because I knew I couldn't take it to court, but something was clearly done wrong here, so I took it to the public instead."
I mean somebody correct me though if I'm wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhvEaVrP25Q
TLDW:
1) To win a defamation case, KSH would not only have to prove through proper court-affiliated forensics that the images released by KSR's family were faked... but he'd also have to prove that KSR's family *knew* they were faked and intentionally spread false info. Which he's not likely to be able to do.
2) During his presser, he said he had lied in the past, and if faced with the same situation he would do it again. A court will not want to hear this, and looks down on plantiffs and defendants that show no regret, remorse, or reflection on their actions. It will harm his own credibility in court.
A fitting end...
FANS --> "Perhaps the purchase of yet another virtual flower to my fantasy-boyfriend will help lessen his struggles..."
Well there's too much bullshit between scenes of tension, so it was trying my patience, but he is handsome, so I stick with the show. And I'm thinking "fine then, if all this builds to is an incredible kiss, then let's see this amazing kiss then."
And you get 3. The one in the snow, the long one, and the upside down one. Well, the one in the snow was pretty good if you ask me. Not good enough to justify hanging out that many episodes for, but decent. The second one was like whaaaaaat.... is that....? It's way way too long like super gratuitous, and just WEIRD. The third one was sweet but kinda dumb.
All in all, i don't know how worth it that investment of my time was. I guess it was a whatever OK and I'll give it a 7. I love both those actors, the script was a lil bit crappy.
Love in the edge of divorce ROCKED.
This makes it a sad ending, but actually a happier one, ultimately. Kind of clever and sweet, but I still hated the ending all in all.
You have lost sight of the fact that Dear Leader is worth more than a thousand mere mortals! Whoever have lost their lives in the pursuit to capture his affection pales in comparison to what he has done for the people! He has strengthened our economy, provided jobs food and housing, and brought peace and stability to our nation! Now he have to protect himself from baseless accusations also! This is too much for me.
That is why I have quit my job at the waffle stand in the mall to spend FULL TIME devoted to internets to spread the word that Supreme Leader Kim Soo Hyun is loved by The People and would never do anything wrong!
Glory to Kim Soo Hyun!
Who preyed upon children for fun
After young girls he lusted
Until he got busted
His career is now basically done
To try to explain it away
After silence for thirty-odd days
He talked like a prick
And smeared on some tear stick
At a presser with no Q&A
Which didn't assuage peoples fears
That he'd groomed his poor victims for years
He thought he'd deceived them
But no one believed him
Now they call him the King of Fake Tears!
But that's just me.
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