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saying mediocre is being nice to the drama.

Most of the writers of these kinds of dramas are women.

Makes you wonder if these women writers ever had any meaningful relationships with any men!
If they did, they would never write such fake men in their dramas.

When ever I watch these dramas, looking at ML I keep wondering if they are men or Eunuchs.

It's not just this show.

It's pretty much lot of Kdramas and every Cdrama.
The ML never develops any meaningful relationships with any women in these dramas and that includes his sister.

Watch few CEO - Cinderella dramas, it gets even worse.
There has never been a ML in these kinds of dramas that shows remotest of sexual attraction to opposite sex, except when he falls for the FL. That too, he falls in love and then the attraction starts.

Look at this drama as well. The ML falls in love and then the attraction happens.

the FL's are bit more realistic, they are shown to be attracted to handsome guys. If not out outright attraction, there is acceptance of a guy being hot.
The ML on the other hand is never shown to think of other girls as pretty or hot.

engagements does not equate to intimacy or feelings.
It was pretty clear that the engagements were all for his to get his mojo back and did not have any romantic entanglements.
he basically was looking for someone who can teach him stuff and the sure shot way to get that was engagements. When that did not happen, he kept breaking engagements and looked for other girls with powerful families to teach him. We never ever see the ML being intimate with any women other than the FL.
In fact we get confirmation from this 2 male besties that the ML is pretty much a very pure boy in one of the episodes of season 1.


He does have women pining for him but as asian drama ML, the writers would never let him perform any CPR on them, even if the 2 women who pined for him were his friends for a long time.
The hugs, rubbings and CPR are exclusive to FL and 2ML, the ML should never be soiled by such mundane human acts.

not going to happen.

The show is targeted to viewers who want their ML to be very very pure.
ML cannot even breathe the same air that other women breathe.

rumors have it that Asian drama ML's don't ever wank. Even thinking about other women ever in their life is an insult to their future wives and these ML know it, so, the pecker is pretty much used for pissing until they find their true love.

It was about the writers giving these kinds of CPR's, hugs, pecks and touchings only to the FL.
That's some incredible coincidental writing from the writers where only the FL ends up in these kinds of interactions with other men, while the ML is seen only building rock structures.

The dramas put themselves down with their pretty open shitty writing.

Imagine if it were 2 men writing a drama where the ML was having fun time with multiple women while the FL was very pure and would not even look at other men..
And also imagine this happens with multiple dramas.

You would pretty much be calling out those 2 men for being toxic and misogynist.

The reverse pattern is pretty much the norm in most Cdramas and now a days in a lot of Kdramas as well.
Let me know if the writers of these dramas are sexist as well.

Lastly, you are totally missing the point.
What we are asking is for consistency of characters following rules set by the writers for the world.
What I have is not contempt against the FL, it is actually contempt against the ML's of these kinds of dramas. They are barely men. They practically have zero sexual attraction towards women, which pretty much makes them fake. There practically is no man that exists in the world as being portrayed in these asian dramas.

The FL is not the one being targeted.
It's the writers who are writing such incredibly fake and shitty writing that are being targeted.

What are the rules of the world this drama is in as written by writers?

Looking at all 10 main characters interacting with each other, what do you think are the rules set by the writers regarding interactions between men and women?

If this drama had rules where men and women who are friends can hug and peck and kiss each other, your post is perfectly fine.
but
this world has men and women who are not lovers maintain a very respectful and very real distance from each other.
Only exception written by the writers is the FL.

The writers need to follow the rules of the world they have built for all characters or make the casual hugging and kissing normal and have ML do the same with 2FL.

On one hand the writers won't even let ML smile at other women and then they have the FL hugging...
It looks as if every one except the FL is following different rules in the drama.

rule no 1 of asian dramas, the 2FL is always a bitch.

it's even more ridiculous than what you posted.

In dramas where the ML has a sister, even they won't have a great bond. It's pretty much ML keeping respectful physical distance with his sister with no real brother-sister interactions.
Contrast that with FL having a brother, it would be pretty realistic.

The writers won't even let the ML bond with his own sister in a meaningful way.

Unlike you I don't pretend why the writers are giving the FL these interactions.

It's not just this drama, it's pretty much every asian drama which follows the template of pure ML and FL rubbing herself against multiple men.

If that phrase seems crude, then the writers need to stop insulting us with such shit writing.

I think you got your logic messed up.
ML and 2ML have interest in FL.
Similarly FL and 2FL have interest in ML.

FL is friends with 2ML.
ML is friends with 2FL.

Now, let me put this delicately to you. Just because a man has interest in the FL like 2ML, does not make sense for her who is married to be hugging him - remember the rules of this world by the writers. No hugging or touching opposite sex.

For what you stating to make sense, the ML should also be having similar intimate scenes with 2FL, since as per you it's normal for love interests to have intimate moments.

And that logic of free spirited animal and freedom does not make sense one bit regarding to the discussion we are having.

What has freedom got to do with FL hugging men? What you are saying makes no sense.

the very fact that you accept the writing where the ML is supposed to be very pure is very disturbing and I will leave it at that and not call you names and upset you.

Let me be clear...ahem..

women and men can hug who ever they want, have sex with who ever they want, when ever they want and where ever they want.

is that statement OK for you to stop insulting me?

Now, lets get back to the drama.
Can you state the general rules of the drama as written by the writers regarding interactions between men and women?

As example, ML is friends with 2FL for years. They have very respectful relationship. In fact every man and woman have very respectful relationships even if they are friends.
The writers have pretty much written the rules in bold regarding how friendship between a man and a woman is in the drama.
sure, friends can hug and peck on cheeks like we do in normal world but in this world that the writers have built, that is not normal.

Lastly, the FL and ML are not real.
They are written by 2 female writers who pretty much give them what every interactions they want.
It's not FL kissing the 2ML, it's the writers making the FL do it.
Similarly it's not the ML who keeps respectful distance with other women. It's the 2 female writers who want to keep him pure as snow unsoiled by other women. I mean, if the ML was a real person who is handsome and very rich, he would have had pretty interactions with multiple women. But hey, the 2 female writers wrote the ML, who is handsome and very rich to be very pure for obvious reason.

So, if you have complaints about misogyny or misandry etc etc, take it up with the 2 female writers who have written this shit and not me.

Well, I can point to more than 10 interactions that the FL has other men that are actually intimate.

Can you point to one interaction ML has with other women in this drama that can be construed as intimate?

CPR my ass...the whole thing was written to give the FL and 2ML yet another intimate moment.
the scene is beyond disgusting because the writers keep breaking the rules they themselves have set for this world just so multiple men can rub themselves against the FL.

Sorry but the whole tone of these dramas seem to be the ML need to be pure as a white rose who is never tainted by another women while the FL is given...

Like I stated, let's not pretend why these scenes are written this way in this drama.

I would rather we accept that writers want to have FL rub herself against multiple men and deal with it THAN to pretend she was saving her friend by giving CPR.

well, the drama does not have unmarried men giving hugs to their female friends.

why not look at the rules the writers set for the drama.

Are hugs between men and women normal? No
is sex between men and women normal? No
Do men and women in the drama keep respectful distance from opposite sex? yes

these are the rules of the world as written by the writers.
Now, the only person who breaks these rules set by the writer is the FL.

Does the ML hug and peck his female friends? No

Now to that specific scene, the CPR could have been performed by anyone else who the writers could have written in that scene but since the 2 female writers wanted to juice it up for audiences, they did what they did.

The 2 female writers want their ML to be extremely pure who never has any meaningful interactions with his female friends like the FL has with her male friends.
The intent behind that kind of thinking is not misogyny, it's called misandry.

You know what, I quite like modern western dramas where the men and women are modern. Everyone fks everyone and in that kind of world setting, FL actually having a threesome would not be a problem in that world setting and dramas.

In this world setting, FL even touching other guys is a problem. because the writers have written the world in that way.

wait, wait, wait...

You mean to tell me the writers could not have added another character to that scene who could have performed CPR to save the 2ML?

You all are pretending as if we all don't know why the writers had the FL perform CPR,
or why FL gives 2ML hugs and pecks
or why the 2ML was the one who picks and holds her while she is drenched in water..

Let's all pretend to be innocent about the writers intentions in having these scenes in the drama.

Actually, it should have been an actual CPR.
That half-arsed thing felt like a kiss than CPR.

regarding the triangles, even the ML has a 2FL who is in love with him for years.
if the writers wanted, they could have shown similar interactions between them like they wrote between FL and 2ML.

No, FL is not having interactions with other men. She is having intimate scenes.
ML has interactions with other women, without having intimate scenes with them.

Again, it's the intent of the writers and their intent is to have have FL fondled by multiple men, while the ML has respectful interactions with other women.

Forget right or wrong, it's piss poor story telling.

Cause the intention the writers had behind that scene was not the CPR but the kiss.

if the actual intention was saving the 2ML, the CPR could have been performed by any other character. All the writers had to do was have someone else nearby and have them do CPR.

The intent by the writers matters,
since this is not the sole intimate scene between the FL and 2ML in this drama, the whole lot of interactions look dodgy.

Tell me, in the previous episode, why would the FL hug the 2ML? That was not life threatening. The 2ML wanted to hug her because he is horny and the FL is like, ok, lets hug.
She is a married woman, hugging another guy who has hots for her. Again piss poor writing.

The whole tone of the drama is that every character is very reserved in their interactions with opposite sex. The only exception is the FL, who sticks out like a sore thumb that does not confirm to the tone of the drama.
If all characters are being friendly and intimate with opposite sex, then in the tone of the drama, it would be acceptable.
but...the writers have only the FL with these interactions and no other main character.

Looks like the viewers like their ML's to be extremely pure virgins who never even look at other women.

Reminds me of all those CEO dramas where the ML is a hot & successful 30 year old virgin who never had any interactions with any women until the FL comes along.
How do these writers write this crap with a straight face!?

You need to understand that it's the writers who are making the characters do these things.

The writers wrote multiple intimate scenes between FL and 2ML in the drama. The hugs, pecks, drenched FL picked up by 2Ml etc etc.
The intention behind these interactions by writers are pretty obvious, including the CPR.

in fact that scene could have had another person with them who could have provided the CPR but since the writers want the FL to be kissy kissy with the 2ML without actually making her seem dodgy, they went with the CPR, which actually for all practical purposed was a kiss since thats not how one performs CPR.

Every intimate scene the FL has with 2ML could have been avoided by the writers since they have nothing to do with the main plot - unless it's the Fl and 2ML which is the end game.

Also, ever wonder why these asian dramas have only the FL having these kinds of interactions with multiple men, while the ML hardly ever looks at other women?
Even in this drama, the only interaction the ML has with other women is when he is picking up a leaf from hair of 2FL. Now compare that with what the story gives the FL.

People are pissed because the writers intent behind that scene was the kiss and not the CPR.

the hugs, pecks, CPR etc are there in this drama not for story telling but to give the FL good intimate interactions with the 2ML and have nothing to do with story.

In fact, remove these dodgy scenes and the drama would be the same, may be even better since these writers would actually be forced to write a good story than to find ways for the FL to be rubbing against the 2ML.