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both Step mother & mother need a lot of growing up.

Having said that, in spite of the crap the step mother keeps pulling, she was there for the FL when she was growing up. She was not good but she was there.

The real mother just dumped her and carried on with her life for 26 years without even caring how she was doing or even if she was alive or dead.

As of now, as bad as she is, step mother is better just because she was there for the FL.
Let's not forget that the step mother could have easily told the truth about the mother to FL when ever she got angry at her. She does not & in a small way that shows she cares for her husband and may be the daughter.

She is greedy, obnoxious, rude, self-centered and cares more for her son BUT from FL and her father POV, they would not have survived without this woman. With a new born in his hands, there is no chance in hell he would have survived without her.
Does this make step-mother good, Goodness no but the context of what happened is important.
When Dandan knows the truth, who do you she will be angry at? The step-mother who mistreated her at times or the real mother who abandoned her?

this drama has grey characters rather than down right plain evil ones, means there is scope for growth and redemption for each of them.

Two men chasing the same girl - check
Girl keeps shifting between the two men - check
She keeps having cute and intimate moments with ML while still with another guy - check

So, what is this called?

Yes, it literally is all about extremely crappy love triangle.

FL and her BF are made for each other.
ML is a gutless wimp simping after a girl who is two timing, not sure if she is two timing her BF or the ML but yeah the ML is a cuckold wimp.

If this is your taste, go for it.

ML age and kids are going to be a huge problem for them to be together.

You can already see the indications when various people are mistaking FL as his daughter or niece,
ML is getting pretty conscious of it.

FL's real mom is going to cause problems as well from the looks of things.

Think we are watching two different dramas, she goes back and forth with her BF until ep 9. Not sure if that break up is final or we will see more crap going ahead.
She cheated, let's not beat around the bush about this.
You can empathize with her situation and feeling humiliated which caused her to act that way.

by Episode 9, she was cheating on both her BF and her new lover, if that makes sense.

Understand shit happens in life but let's not normalize what the FL is doing.

the BF was a scum.

And the FL doing the same act that scum did makes her a douche as well. Two mistakes don't make a right.
Just because partner cheats, the response is not cheating back. There are better ways to handle that than to degrade to the level of a cheating partner. It is about own self respect and judgement & the FL did the worst possible thing in that situation.

She could have broken up with her BF and then done what she liked. Problem is few episodes in, it looks like she is playing the ML after the crap she pulled on him.

the dicey thing she is doing is leading the ML on still being with her BF. This whole situation where comes across as dumpster is her own making.
If a guy had done what she did by dragging a girl to motel, he would not live to see the end of day.

And the whole getting drunk & ending up in a motel with a strange man...Not sure how that is not dangerous. Any number of things could have happened to her if the guy was not nice. If it was real life she could have very well ended up with her sex videos online.
And who the F cries in front a strange man about her love life? Is he a therapist or something? It's not like she is a village bumpkin!!

But hey, this is Cdrama and we all celebrate the drinking culture and ending up in motel room with random people.

in Cdramas
guy gets drunk, ends up in a motel with an unknown girl.
To forget it, he gets pissed drunk the next day & this time he ends up in bed with a man
To forget this, he drinks himself silly again & ends up in bed with a donkey.
At this point the donkey is wondering if the guy is drinking because he likes what is happening afterwards.

Understand this is drama but damn that was some repetitive and stupid cliches, some of which would never happen in life - and we are just talking about episode 1

That's not how the first episode played out,

She was the one who comes to the ML, not the other way around.
She uses ML to get back at her BF. Worse, she judges him repeatedly when she herself is crap.

if it was the ML who had used the FL to get back at his GF, we would be singing different tune for sure.

that BF is toxic, the FL is dumpster fire. Ml should just run away from such a woman and find a nice girl.

and Cdrama writers are so predictable, every other drama has FL wailing about her love life in front the ML. Not sure why most dramas start this way....do the Cdrama writers think it's really romantic for the FL to be wailing and crying about another guy in front of ML?
Would a girl respect a man wailing about another woman in front of them?

wow at the FL.

She goes from naive & at time irritating girl to a wonderful woman.
She has the best growth in drama in every sense.
She grows into a wonderful partner, sister & a wonderful friend. She was a delight to watch in the drama. Did not miss a single scene she was in.

ML had no growth. He regresses a little bit in between but there was never much scope for growth for ML. he starts off as someone who is very mature and just stays like that.

Yet another Cdrama where the FL who has been in long relation with a cheater &
the handsome ML conveniently appears before her to help her out of the mess while she is wailing about her BF and her love failure.

Unlike other dramas where the FL is dumb, this one is smart but unlikable, she is as much a cheater as her BF. Remember folks, cheating is not just intercourse.
Cdramas give the FL a long passe over their behavior. No matter how terrible their behavior is, somehow it's excused & everyone else needs to understand and empathize with her.

the ML is a stalker & a cuckold.
Not sure what she sees in a cheater to go after her even after bitch-slapped to gutter repeatedly.

few episodes in, ML needs to back off from his stalker mode and realize that the FL is a dumpster fire and run from her.
People need to remember that once a cheater, always a cheater and the FL is a cheater.
She and her cheater BF are perfect for each other. the BF manipulates the FL & the she in turn treats ML like crap.

I thought this would be a different drama with how well it started.

But

As every other Cdrama the SML turns the FL into a retarded monkey.

Kudos to the ML for sticking with the dumb, stupid & irritating FL. Any other man would have run away into the arms of another girl.

May be the viewers don't like a 'man' in Cdramas.
Most of these Cdramas have effeminate men who barely look like men and have a libido of an Eunuch.
So, when they see a real man, viewers are probably confused and don't know to make of it.

The complains don't stick though. The ML is absolutely handsome.
If this was real life, this guy would be nearing a score of 10 and most Cdrama FL would not get a second glance from this hot guy.

Anyone watched 'rebirth for you'? The FL looks like a 12 year old boy with loads of make up and lipstick. Barely has bosom or bum. Probably that's the standards viewers are aiming for.
but some of us want real men and women in the dramas.

Watched another drama of ML, this guy is out and out handsome.
Not girly handsome but manly handsome.

usually hate harem stories, dropped 'Rebirth for you' because the first 10 episodes were basically fillers to show many men falling in love with the FL.
They add nothing to the story & you are bored seeing the same repetitive crap in every Cdrama.

Should I start this?
Story sounds good but just hesitant because of the Harem tag. Don't want to waste watching 20 episodes with the story going no where because the director needs to fill the episodes of FL and multiple men doing their romantic stuff.

Crying is weak is so cliche & dumb.

People mistake being soft, humble & well mannered as NOt strong.
Nothing could be further from truth.

Being strong is all about making correct decisions.

If being loud, obnoxious, entitled and cold is strong, then they should watch Cdramas.

Got to love the FL.

Once she realized her feelings, no weird games or hesitations or over thinking things.
She knew what she wanted and she was very upfront about it.

That's a strong woman.

"even that clumsy fool can seduce Young Guk, what have you been doing".....that old lady is funny as hell.

There was a premise for a great rom-com in this drama but all that went into crap in the way characters, especially FL was developed.

No criticism of the actress, she is a fabulous actress. Even in this drama she shines brightly & when she is on screen, she just takes over.

The character she played though is what it is - a monkey.

Some may find it tough but a simple golden test would be enough to understand what I am saying. The golden test is here switch the genders of FL and ML.

Let us now see how the ML would be like after the roles are revered per gender.
- ML is close to his Childhood Female friend
- Not just close, they are so close that he allows his FL friend to be all over him, touch him, hug him, let he climb over him etc etc close.
- ML goes to caves at night because his female friend asks him so.
- ML goes to forests after he has a GF alone with his female friend.
- ML tells the FL not to be with her male friends but he still allows his female friend to press herself against him, hold hands, be alone in his bed room, sit on his bed with just 2 of them, you know all cute and intimate moments.
- ML never draws boundaries with his female friend, where as FL draws clear boundaries with her male friend and sticks to them
- ML even knowing his female friend is trying to sabotage his relationship with his GF never takes steps to shut her down, instead have the girls fight each other for him. Where as FL does not ever give her male friend a chance to do this kind of disgusting stuff to ML

This is just relationship stuff. After the Golden test of Gender swap, how does the ML comes across?

I can go on but the golden test does not smell right for the FL. At this point saying FL is strong and smart does not hold.
can go on how poorly FL judgement calls were though-out the drama.

The reason she is a retarded monkey is because she allowed her male friend to basically have his way with her as he wanted, when he wanted and how he wanted.
She could have done a dozen things to stop it but chose not to.

After watching few really crappy Cdramas, just wanted to visit here and thank the writers, director and actors for making this wonderful drama.

Watching it again to wipe my memories of some of the recently watched crappy ones.

There is no love triangle.

ML and FL only ever had feelings for each other and no one else.

Sure there were others who liked them but they never had a chance for it to be called a triangle.

She does not get better, she stays awful right until the end. Some of the things she does are so unlikable. After all the shit she does to the ML, it's the cucked ML who feels sorry for her.

There is absolutely zero growth for FL. Starts off like a feral dog, ends like one.

Yes she does, after few years of staying with him.
They show few intimate and romantic moments between them as well.

Not sure why viewers liked it,
it was extremely disturbing and revolting when watching it.

The brother was a creep and the FL was......piece of shit.

Watch the drama if you like a nice and kind ML.