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Lanlan was always happy with Fang and even said that she's happy just seeing Fang. She's very comfortable in her conversation with Fang that you said boring. She's satisfied with Fang emotionally. That made her happy. Instead with Jiao, she's just chatting politely and never gave him special treatment/response. Saying that Lanlan was comfortable with Jiao? Are you watching different show? What we see is that the one that Lanlan felt comfortable with was Fang, not Jiao. Lanlan laughed more happily and genuinely with Fang, not Jiao. Not to mention how Jiao touched Lanlan's body insolently.

Since you already said that you hope for Jiao to get better girl, then don't throw tantrum like a kid anymore. In Fang's opinion, Lanlan is the best for him. While according to you, Lanlan is not the best for Jiao. So it's better that Jiao just stopped and let Lanlan be together with Fang.

Lanlan never asked Jiao to do all of those things that he did. But you tried to force Lanlan to be with Jiao just because of the things that she never asked Jiao to do? If you think that Jiao could buy a girl with his materialistic things, then maybe you can suggest him to go to brothel instead of dating show. Or you can just go to watch other Chinese dating show or Chinese drama as you said, since you already said that you don't care about this show.

Yes, their chemistry can't be denied. And also the communication and understanding, especially from Xiaoshi (Lion). I like how she gave the sense of security to Pan Pan and her patience in understanding him. Some scenes that I still remember are when they met the first time and when Pan Pan fallen asleep on the sofa waiting for Xiaoshi that came home really really late at night after a date with another guy. You make me want to rewatch it again now, even after I rewatched it twice already😅And yeah, they're still dating now!! Let's hope a miracle happens and suddenly it'll be revived like what happened with Twinkle Love.

Yes, that's what I meant with "he had to compromise because of the situation". I explained it more detailed in my reply to pupluvgurl above this comment. Sorry if I was not detail enough.

"He's afraid that this would give pressure to Chichi and hurt Yifan's feeling looking at him and Zihan fighting over Chichi." This was what I said there because of what Zihan said, though maybe I was not wording it quite well also there about what I meant about what Zihan said about calling the girls and let them decided.

I edited that reply now by moving/arrange the sentence to be more understandable now.

I still have to wait for tomorrow to watch Part 3. But reading this is quite disheartening for me😞 Because after she cried in the conversation with Jiao and what she said to Duoduo, it's obvious that she didn't enjoy her time with Jiao.

Yeah I can see and imagine Duoduo as a councilor or a motivator with her cheerful personality 😆 Imagine her doing acupuncture while counseling/motivate the client 😂

And yeah, for me, this season is quite messy. It's not comfortable to watch for me, and remind me of Season 3 which was also not comfortable to watch for me.

Season 4 of "Yes, I Do" is the best season IMO, followed by Season 2. I really like Xiaoshi and Pan Ming Jun in S4. Too bad that Season 5 is kinda flop (IMO). And sadly it seems that it's discontinued now.

I think Yuhang was too considerate of others' feeling. He actually quite firm and didn't want to give up. He only started wavering when Zihan said "I hope we follow the girls' wishes". He's afraid that this would give pressure to Chichi and hurt Yifan's feeling looking at him and Zihan fighting over Chichi. Zihan was quite manipulative though and kept pressuring Yuhang with Yifan. He said he didn't want to send wrong signal to Yifan and cause misunderstanding, while he completely understood after what Yuhang told them that if Yuhang chose Yifan then it even would make bigger misunderstanding. Yuhang should learn from this though. There is time when you can be considerate and there is time when you can't. If he doesn't change then like you said, it will give him problem when he gets into relationship or other things in life.

I also think that Duoduo maybe wanted to leave. Rui Long left, Wang Jue left, and there is nothing more for her in the cabin. The rest of them there were still entangled in love relationship but not her. She didn't mean "staying to make memories". She meant she didn't want a 1-on-1 date and that she wanted to go on the date just to make more memories and took more photos, which was why she chose 2-on-2 date. I am glad that she stayed though, and happy to see her there to save Lanlan from the situation with Jiao and was there to comfort Lanlan, also brightening the group vibe. Maybe she will leave later just before the confession day, and to be honest, I prefer her leaving rather than confess to Lechen or other guy that she's not interested in.

Even after Jiao's incident of grabbing Lanlan's body near her chest, I was still pretty neutral between Jiao and Fang, though I leaned a bit more towards Fang. But after watching this Episode 8 Part 1 & 2, I can't see myself supporting Lanlan with Jiao. I am 100% Fang now. I even wonder who is really the possessive type here, Fang or Jiao?

Though Duoduo was late, I am really glad to see her came. She saved Lanlan from the situation with Jiao and was there to comfort her. I like her even more now. And she brightened the gloomy situation instantly when she came.

About Yuhang, I really pity him that he had to compromise because of the situation. If I were him, I would say to Zihan "Then let us all stay here until morning or when it's the time to go. I won't give it up."

Besides the seasons that others mentioned, personally I like Season 4 also. Just avoid Season 3.

About the part that he took responsibility the next day, to add what you said about it, I want to add that it's still Duoduo's initiative and not Lechen's to have the talk. He's still trying to avoid her. So I won't really take it as he took responsibility.

If Duoduo didn't try to have a talk with the excuse of giving gift, he would never do the talk (maybe he's still not in the right state of mind, overwhelmed, the cameras, etc which is perfectly understandable as another human being as someone said) and would never learn his lesson and got there eventually as someone claimed to you and me.

I am speechless to be honest, seeing how someone made it as if it's Lechen that tried to have the conversation and explained it to Duoduo, and made it as if it's because he learned his lesson. Such shamelessness.

Just because this is a dating show doesn't mean that you don't need to have manner. And there is real life with real people with real feeling inside the dating show. They're not disposable thing. Someone's feelings is not a play toy. This is not video game.

I gave you an analogy/example for my point. You took it literally as I was talking about his job. So you actually don't understand what I mean, or maybe just ignoring it.

To be honest, I lost the interest to continue the talk with you, because you're now resorting to personal attack with your first and second sentences, proving that you're emotional and not rational anymore. Now you're trying to force your opinion instead of arguing the topic. So yeah each to their own. You can take what Qruuz said as my arguments. I agree with all what Qruuz said.

Thanks!! 🥰

If you said that about me then surely that you didn't read carefully what I said and why I said that. Even after I said openly twice that I am a Lanlan fan and not Duoduo fan (before Episode 7 Part 3) and just defended her from unfair attacks.

And I can also say that from your POV, Lechen is perfect and he can do no wrong but Duoduo is always wrong. Anyone who criticizes him and defend Duoduo is at fault 😂😂😂 You can see your posts yourself. Even after a Leyuan fan said that they even think that what Lechen did was wrong, but you dismissed it, and insisted and said that though Duoduo was not wrong but she should have done it differently. Why would she do it differently if she's not wrong? 😂😂😂

But I will give it a rest and I won't bother with you anymore. You can hate Duoduo as much as you wish and blame shifting it to her as you want. As long as you're not overboard and labeling someone as red flag anymore.

It's worse because that means that he intentionally playing and putting his feet in two boats, even if it's a dating show. It's already bad if he had mutual approach with one girl and received the other girl's approach, not rejected it or at least neutral or keep it open. But approaching two girls at once knowing that both of them liked him? How will you feel if someone approaches you and you're dating, but later you know that you're not the only one and there is another person? Just because it's a dating show doesn't mean that it's proper to do that. You have to at least have manner. Approach one first and then if you think it won't work or you're interested in another one, then end it first before you approach another one. That's the proper manner and so you also won't waste their time by leading them.

Is it normal for a human being to be too overwhelmed? Yes. But does it make it right or justified? No. At least in my opinion and value. He's an adult, not a kid. He's a working person and he's there in society. So if he encounters problem because of what he does in his work, then he'll just hide and doing nothing to fix the problem that he makes when the boss comes to him? Will he ignore the boss? I don't think so. Will he just throw hints to the boss and his co-workers? He has his responsibility and he'll surely do that, otherwise he won't have a job now. Can he be too overwhelmed with the problem? Yes. But will he run away? I don't think so. So he should understand about responsibility.

My point is that yes, he could be too overwhelmed about the situation, but it didn't justify what he did, especially in the situation that he created himself, where he mutually approached one girl and received other girl's approach, or even approached two girls at once. He should be responsible for his action or at least has a basic manner, and I am sure he understand about responsibility.

If you think that what he did was fine, then I understand now why you and some people can justify and defend what Lechen did, either it's by using his traumatic upbringing or other excuses. Because we have different value. If you can't understand what I mean, then I also have nothing more to say.

Or maybe turn out that we're just talking about different things. You talked about whether what he did is normal or not, while I talked about whether what he did is right or not.

If you want to ask me to see it from his point of view and try to understand him, then yeah I can understand him to some degree. But can I justify what he did just because I understand him? No. He can't just look at himself but he should also look at the consequences that he causes to others.

1. If it's mutual approach between Lechen and Yuan, then in my opinion, that even made it worse than he's only the receiving one. Because at that time, Lechen still hadn't ended it yet with Duoduo.

2. Thanks for clearing what you meant.

3. Yes, everyone has their shortcomings. Even Duoduo is not perfect, she has her weaknesses. But, CMIIW, Lechen is the only one in "Watching Together" history that got reprimand, and had to admit/acknowledge his issues and even in two episodes, not just one. He even exclaimed and grabbed his head watching what he said and did in the car conversation.

And it's very unusual for the production team to bring the participant to watch/confront their own scenes, and he was brought to do it for two episodes. This is just my guess, but maybe because he's part of the endgame couples, so the production team meant to avoid more backlash for Lechen by him admitting his issues, and also maybe that's why they cut the reaction when he ignored Duoduo and when Duoduo cried, to avoid more controversy and backlash.

4. It's about responsibility. He couldn't just throw hints and then ran away without explanation. Even if he's not in the right state of mind and confused on how to face Duoduo, when Duoduo came, he could at least came out and said something to Duoduo, like my example "I need time to be alone and think first. Can I ask that we talk later and not now, please?". He didn't need to try to explain right at that time if he couldn't. But at least the basic manner and courage. He could come out and talk for a moment to Duoduo, not ignoring her. At least that's what he should do because he's the one that created the situation.

About the blame shifting it to Duoduo, it's not in your original post. But you mentioned about you read my comment, and that comment was meant to reply to someone who questioned Duoduo or tried to put blame on her, and I explained her situation, why she did what she did, and why what Lechen did was not proper and decent, and hence why I explained that Duoduo and Lechen was mutual approach, which you mentioned in your original post. And because of your #1 and #2, then I got the impression that you tried to blame shifting it to Duoduo. You already explained it so it's just a misunderstanding.

5. I totally agree with your last part!!

Seeing how you framed your words, I guess that it's targeted to me.

We saw what was shown on the screen. So I am sorry, but this is not wrong about the mutual approach. We only know what we see on the screen. And we said what was shown to us. If it's because of the manipulation from the production team, then yeah it's so unfortunate and as you said yourself, blame the production team, but it's not our fault and so it doesn't mean that what we said is wrong. And it's only your claim versus what we saw on screen.

Can you please remind me on which part of ep 2 as you said that "Wang Jue literally said she noticed that Lechen's priorities are Yuan, and that Duoduo and Rui Long guessed that Leyuan would be the first to go on the trial love trip"? I only remember that both Wang Jue and Duoduo (and also Yuan) were pursuing Lechen in Episode 2. Is it logical, even in imagination, that Duoduo would guess that Leyuan would be the first to go on the trial love trip, when she's still pursuing Lechen? I am sure that she's not an idiot and crazy girl, pursuing someone but saying that other girl would go on trial trip with her love interest. I actually want to go back to watch Episode 2 again to verify what you said, but I don't want to waste around 4 hours (including the More for Episode 2) to check something that I am not sure is there. So please can you kindly remind me in what scene/part of Episode 2 about what you said?

You said people were misjudging Lechen. But it's Lechen himself that said that in the "Watching Together Episode 5 & 6", that he has many issues that he has to address and fix/improve after watching the episodes. I certainly will never forget his "Adults only choose, not adjust".

And yeah we don't know how long Duoduo was waiting. It's possible that it's only a short time before Duoduo came upstairs, but I need you to realize, that it's also possible that it's already quite a long time for her to wait downstairs, that Duoduo had to come upstairs to ask Jiao for confirmation. And whatever reason/excuse Lechen had, he clearly saw Duoduo came and listened the conversation but just sat there doing nothing and just letting Jiao to find excuses for him. The camera showed it to us. Duoduo also could see it clearly because Jiao was looking back to Lechen and paused, before then trying to find excuses for Lechen. Even if it's like you said that "Lechen wanted to let Jiao go and tell her but he is yet to come to the decision on how it should be said", after he saw that Duoduo came, then he should at least came out and said to Duoduo "I need time to be alone and think first. Can I ask that we talk later and not now, please?". If that's in accordance with the excuse that you provided for him. But no, he did nothing. And if after he's saying that but Duoduo still insisted to talk, then yeah you can blame Duoduo. But we know that's not what happened. If you people only wanted to defend Lechen, I find no problem in that. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Like someone said "I am the same MBTI with Lechen and so I can understand and resonate with him." No problem with that. What I dislike is how the people that trying to defend Lechen tried to blame shifting it to Duoduo.

I agree with you though about restraining oneself from judging ANY contestant too harshly, and that's why I always try to tell people, that no matter how they dislike the participants, never labeling them as red flag. Because in the end we don't know them personally and only see what the show shown for us to see.

Yeah, about what you said, it can be also.

We can't analyze/predict because there is not many materials to see. They're just "side characters" of the show, especially Fang. So anything can happens, though as a Lanlan fan I hope that theirs can be a long-term relationship.

About Leyuan, even if it's just rumor now and not confirmed yet, it's sad. Though I predict that Leyuan won't have a long-term relationship, but at least I predicted that they will last for 1-2 years before break up.

Oh well, after all of the dramas ... If this is true, then it's a blessing in disguise for Duoduo since she always wants a long-term relationship in every of her relationship. And the reason for the breakup is due to distance. When Jiao and Fang answered the question about long distance relationship, I wondered what Lechen's answer would be. Now I know. I guess this is one of the example of Lechen's "Adults only choose, not adjust". But ofc with the premise that the rumor is true. Or to be fair, it can be Yuan's decision, though it feels that it is not in accordance with how she pursued Lechen.

About Fanglan, I am happy that the rumor is HE. So they really continue their relationship outside of the show, and not just only do it for the show and then fades away. I hope that the rumor will become true. I will pray for their happiness and hopefully long-term relationship 🥰🥰🥰

Thanks!!

Yeah I usually watch Mango on Youtube. It's just that I don't know whether I have to subscribe and pay, or is it free? Because I rarely watch Mango so usually what I watched came out quite long time before I watched it. I don't know whether they're free because it's free or because it's not new anymore.

Thanks for your reply ☺️

Do we have to subscribe to Mango to watch it? Or is it free?

Can you please give the link where you watch it?