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But it's just a waste of time for them if they don't have interest in the rest of the participants. They won't get any screentime anyway because there will be nothing that's interesting for the PD to show. And some of them have to go for a long distance and time from the house/cabin to their workplaces.

Yuan's father should be remarry or she lives with a foster mother, but most probably it's the first case, so who she was initially intended to bring/invite should be her stepmother. Yuan said that her stepmother cares a lot about her in every aspect of her life, so I guess maybe that's why her stepmother was the first that came to her mind.

Something strange happened to me lately. Yesterday I order for food delivery and the name of the driver is Keh Ai Lin! And today, I just know that the name of the singer of my most fav OST "See You When Spring Flowers Bloom", from one of my most fav dramas "Twelve Letters", is DOUDOU!!

Maybe because that I always defended Ailin that now she revolved around me. She delivered food and sang for me. That's crazy 🤣🤣🤣

Yeah, after being spoiled with S6 and S7, this season doesn't feel the same. Even S4 feels better for me.

I just checked it and it's working. Maybe you typed the wrong address? Or maybe the site was down at that time. Try it again and it should work. I usually watch it on WeTV (VIP) so I am not sure whether I can recommend it since you have to pay😁

Didn't I say already that she actually understood the hints and signs? Some people trying to defend Lechen and blame shifting it to her, either it's by questioning why she couldn't take the hints, or why she's asking Jiao to deliver the message and not directly go to Lechen, or it's because of her personality and demanding it the way that she wanted.

I explained her situation, and why what Lechen did was not proper and decent, and why she did what she did, and also asked if the same situation happens to you as I asked you to imagine, will you actually also do the same thing like her, or will you agree with what Lechen did, only giving you hints and not giving you a proper talk, and only accept it? Will you want to be treated like how Lechen treated Ailin?

So yeah, we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

I feel like I am a parrot, repeating the same comment over and over again 😂 And it's the third with you, so I will just copy paste parts from my reply to the first and second person.

If it's only one way approach like what Yuan did (which Lechen only accepted) then you can justify what Lechen did. Like what he did to reject Wang Jue by giving hints, since Wang Jue's was only one way approach.

Someone even questioned why Ailin couldn't take hints from Lechen. But what happened between Ailin and Lechen was two way approach. Not only Ailin that approached him, but he was also the one that proactively approached Ailin. So it should be for him to have a face to face talk with Ailin. Because indeed that Ailin took the hints and signs that she wanted to have a proper face to face talk, so she could be clear about what happened, what's the reason, and other things in her mind. Their relationship formed from the initiation from both sides. So no excuse for Lechen to just ignoring Ailin that was waiting downstairs. Even if he didn't want to come down and talk to Ailin, he should at least ask for Jiao to deliver his message to Ailin, not just ignoring her. Ailin even went upstairs to ask Jiao, and she could see clearly how Jiao was looking back to Lechen before trying to find excuses for him, and that Lechen was just listening without any courage or manner to come out and talk to Ailin. That's why she's so disappointed and unhappy and cried.

It's a relationship formed from both sides, and that's why it's only proper to end it with face to face talk if he wanted to end it with Ailin, not just by throwing hints. He even hopped to Yuan before he ended it properly with Ailin.

Imagine if someone approaches you and you reciprocate, but then suddenly that person is close with another opposite sex and avoids you and just giving hints, and just asks someone to talk it to you, and not giving a proper talk to you when you want a clarity, and even just hopping to another person before end it properly with you, how will you feel? Will you just accept it and thinking "Oh well, the hints are there, okay that's fine"? Or will you want to have a face to face talk? I myself will definitely want to have a face to face talk. Not mentioning to end it with good term, even with face to face talk, things still can ends up badly, not mentioning if that person just avoids and doesn't give proper conclusion to end the relationship. It's not about wanting/demanding thing because of her personality, it's about a proper and decent way and manner to talk things out, either it's to fix things or ends the relationship. Look at the context and whole picture, not just a scene.

I don't think Lechen ever told Ailin that he's not the type to do that. Can you please remind me on which episode and scene that he told Ailin about that? And even if Lechen is not the type to do that, it's still not appropriate. And he actually understood Ailin, he even agreed about Ailin wanted to be directly told when Lanlan confronted him because of the conversation in the car. So no excuse that Lechen didn't understand Ailin, IMO.

If it's only one way approach like what Yuan did (which Lechen only accepted) then you can justify what he did. Like what he did to reject Wang Jue by giving hints, since Wang Jue's was only one way approach.

Someone even questioned why Ailin couldn't take hints from Lechen. But what happened between Ailin and Lechen was two way approach. Not only Ailin that approached him, but he was also the one that proactively approached Ailin. So it should be for him to have a face to face talk with Ailin. Because indeed that Ailin took the hints and signs that she wanted to have a proper face to face talk, so she could be clear about what happened, what's the reason, and other things in her mind. Their relationship formed from the initiation from both sides. So no excuse for Lechen to just ignoring Ailin that was waiting downstairs. Even if he didn't want to come down and talk to Ailin, he should at least ask for Jiao to deliver his message to Ailin, not just ignoring her. Ailin even went upstairs to ask Jiao, and she could see clearly how Jiao was looking back to Lechen before trying to find excuses for him, and that Lechen was just listening without any courage or manner to come out and talk to Ailin. That's why she's so disappointed and unhappy and cried.

It's a relationship formed from both sides, and that's why it's only proper to end it with face to face talk if he wanted to end it with Ailin, not just by throwing hints. He even hopped to Yuan before he ended it properly with Ailin.

In my opinion, it's actually because indeed that she took the hints and signs that she wanted to have a clarity with Lechen face to face. Remember that their attraction and approach were mutual. It's different with Lu Yuan that was only one way approach (and Lechen only accepted). Between Ailin and Lechen, it's two way approach. They approached each other and had been intimate for quite some time before the train date invitation from Lu Yuan to Lechen.

But suddenly he changed and Ailin felt that. She already asked for clarity once before when she asked Lechen to make a choice for her second card for dating proposal. Lechen didn't want to give a clear answer. Now when she asked him to have a talk with walking the dog as an excuse so they could have a face to face talk, Lechen again avoided it. Since they had mutual approach and it's two way one, it's normal and understandable for Ailin to want a face to face talk. So she could understand what actually happened, what the reason etc. If they could fix it then they could try to fix it, and if they had to end it then they could end it in a proper and decent way.

It's different matter if it's only one way approach like what happened between Lu Yuan and Lechen. Though maybe someone will still say that he's a coward or whatever, he can use this way to reject her. Like what he did to reject Wang Jue by giving hints. But he's actually also the active one who approached Ailin before. So hints and signs are not a proper way to reject Ailin. He must give a clarity. And what he did was even more annoying, considering that Yuhang, who was more passive and many people looking at with one eye thinking that he's like Muchen, actually was more braver than Lechen, rejecting Yifan face to face three times in a row in the train date and he did it with quite consideration to Yifan's feelings trying not to hurt her too much.

Yes, Ailin was asking Jiao to deliver the message. But Lechen didn't come down nor ask Jiao to deliver his message to Ailin. He's literally ignoring Ailin who's waiting downstair. And remember, Ailin then came upstair to ask Jiao about it, and she could see how Jiao was looking back to Lechen and then trying to find excuses for Lechen, with Lechen only listening without any courage or manner to come out and talk with Ailin.

It's not about Ailin's persistence. It's about having a proper talk to conclude things and giving clarity, not just by throwing hints, considering how their relationship formed before this. It's about the manner.

Imagine if someone approaches you and you reciprocate, but then suddenly that person is close with another opposite sex and avoids you and just giving hints, and just asks someone to talk it to you, and not giving a proper talk to you when you want a clarity, and even just hopping to another person before end it properly with you, how will you feel? Will you just accept it and thinking "Oh well, the hints are there, okay that's fine", and then you just blame it to your persistence? Or will you want to have a face to face talk? I myself will definitely want to have a face to face talk. Not mentioning to end it with good term, even with face to face talk, things still can ends up badly, not mentioning if that person just avoids and doesn't give proper conclusion to end the relationship. So what Lechen did was not a good and proper thing. And that what caused the great dissatisfaction from many people. Look at the context and whole picture, not just a scene.

Well, the preview showed us that Ailin and Lechen will have conversation in next episode. So let's hope that they can conclude it properly. It's Ailin's feelings and choice, but if I can decide for her, I will actually choose for her to end it with Lechen. With what I saw from him in what the show showed to us so far, especially what he said in the car conversation and what he did in recent episodes, I don't see a chance that he can have a long-term relationship, even with Yuan as I mentioned once in my another comment. Maybe just 1-2 years and then break up with Yuan, like what happened with Zhang Genyuan and Li Nieshuangyu. If i am proved wrong then I will be happy for them, it's a good thing anyway, but I predict that Leyuan won't have a long-term relationship. The problem is not in Yuan but with Lechen's view that he will only choose and not adjust, how he will accept it willingly if his relationship ends, and how he handles things. I even more afraid that there will be a plot twist and that Ailin and Lechen will actually end up together.

My guess is that "Let's Fall in Love" last season has low rating/viewers, and that's why it's discontinued. I don't know, that's just my guess. Same with "Yes, I Do" from iQIYI. But the return of Twinkle Love maybe is a good sign. As dating show lovers, we can just hope that they'll be resurrected.

Anyway, I am sure that we'll get news as soon as there is a sign for it. We have Luffy here as the bringer of news 😂

Yeah it's a surprise😊 Hopefully it'll be good and they can reduce any scandal potential or even eliminate it.

I understand your frustration. I just hope those people can refrain themselves and have more self control. It's sad for me to see people like those. But don't let those people affect you negatively. Just continue to support your cp or the participant that you like positively, without dragging or shading other participants negatively. Cheers.

Sorry, but where in this comment section said that Lechen is a red flag? Seems that I passed it if there is any. What I see is actually some people shading Ailin as a red flag, and no one said Lechen is a red flag. Yes, I think there is someone that said that Lechen is a coward, but doesn't it the same that some people said Ailin is this and Ailin is that negatively, and even not just one person? Mostly what I see is some people disagree with Lechen and some people disagree with Ailin. And I think that's normal. Everyone has their own preferences.

Not only the viewers. Even the participants have different preferences. Just like how Lanlan and Zihan expressed their disagreement with Lechen's view and can understand Ailin's view in the "Watching Episode 5 (Part 2)". Even Lechen was flabbergasted by what he said himself in the car about "I think adults only choose, not adjust." and felt embarrased. A remark that made Lanlan "fiery" and asked for a pause to express her thinking, and Zihan said that what Lechen said was harsh.

So where is this "Lechen is a red flag" coming from? So weird!!! And for Yifan, Ruilong, Zihan, and Jiao, there are already some people already expressed their thought and support for them. It's just that this comment section is dominated with the comments for Ailin and Lechen. Even when it's mentioned that Yuan is hated, actually there is only a few that talk about Yuan here, and they talked about Yuan's smile or how they support Yuan.

If you're talking about people in Weibo or other social medias, please don't lash out here. Or make it clear that you're talking about people in other medias, so it won't cause confusion and misunderstanding because of the accusation for the people in this comment section.

This is good news for dating show lovers. I thought that they'll be discontinued because of the news out there. It's good to see it back ❤️ Thanks for telling this news!😊

If you're scared, then I think you mean scared of getting BE, not HE? 😁

Her friend didn't delete her multiple times. It's not her friend accepted her friend request and deleted her again and accepted and deleted again. Get your fact! It's Ailin that sent her friend the friend request multiple times every 3-4 months, because they're close friends before her friend went to college and deleted her. Her friend accepted the friend request from Ailin at the second year and they're good now. She sent only 6-8 times over 2 years at the most or even less than that, which is still understandable, it's not like she sent friend request 24 times or more over 2 years. Ailin also said that her friend could just reject her and she would stop sending friend request, implying that her friend was just "hanging" her friend request and didn't reject it. You said "instead of showing any willingness to understand her friend's pov", but how can she understand her friend's pov if there is no explanation? Ailin already said that her friend sudden departure must have a reason and that's why she kept trying to add her as friend. To know the reason/explanation so she can understand. They're close friends before. People don't have many close friends in their life, only a few. Most are just acquaintances or not close friends. If you just accept your close friend ghosting you and not trying to find an explanation, well that's your preference, but she's definitely not that type. Maybe you're the type like Lechen and that's why you resonate with him and see Ailin's view negatively. Like Lechen said to Ailin, "So you try to keep the important people around you close. You want to hold on to them ... I rarely try to hold on to friends on purpose."

"She also mentioned breaking up with her ex-boyfriend because he was willing to put in the effort to change and accomodate her but not at HER pace."
Again get your fact! She never mentioned it. Lechen asked "What if they still don't change?" Ailin answered "If they don't change, then so be it. I'll just look for common ground in the differences." She didn't force the person to change. She said about her ex-boyfriend "And I don't think that he never tried to change. It's just that everyone changes at their own pace. I think he's changing. It's just that the speed isn't what I hoped for." If she's willing to look for common ground in the differences, how could she break up just because the change wasn't at her pace? You're twisting what she said here.

"This is why it is puzzing for him and viewers on why she insists on liking him without even trying to actively listen and understand him like Yuan did."
This is answered in "More for Episode 5 (Part 2)" which they cut from the normal episode. This is in Ailin's message to Lechen, "I thought about the question in the car ...", so she did listen and thinking about it. You're so focus on your dislike about Ailin that "Ailin didn't try to actively listen and understand him", so to be fair, how about we reverse it and ask "Did Lechen try to actively listen and understand Ailin?" In the car conversation, Lechen even accused her of just always comforting herself, even after she explained herself.

You seem very bias/hate Ailin. You're free to your opinion though. Just don't twist some facts just to make her look bad.

No, you're not getting a hate, just a reprimand (at least from me), and that is for labeling someone red flag. You even don't know her personally and only see what the show edited for you to see. You're free to have your opinion and you're free to not like Ailin and criticizes her, but labeling someone as red flag is a big NO.

And why do you have to challenge someone to come at you? If you just want to express what you don't like from Ailin then just do it, without labeling someone as red flag. But if you want to make a fan war, please just go to Weibo or whatever social media that did it, but please not here. People here expressed whatever they don't like from Ailin or Lechen, but they did it in a civilized manner, not by red flagging someone, and they who did it got reprimand from others, either it's Ailin hate or Yuan hate. No one here making Lechen or Yuan to be villains. If you're talking about Weibo or other social medias, then please keep it there, don't bring the fans war here. It's quite peaceful here in the comment section and most people are just supporting the ones that they like.

For your points, Qruuz already answered them, so I won't say much about it. And it's not about culture difference between Asian vs Western, it's just like what you said yourself, your perspective. Just because you're an Asian guy, it doesn't mean that you represent other Asian guys. Some will agree with you and some also will disagree with you.

I am happy because I am supporting them and they're my fav 😍 Though I wonder how they could be so careless. Shouldn't they keep it a secret until the last episode? The second floor really has no secret 🤣🤣🤣

Yeah Kelong moments 🥹 And also Lanfang moments for me 😭😭

I also felt that Ailin and Lechen conversation was a bit choppy and unnatural with strange vibe when they ate together in the normal episode. Suddenly it felt different after their happy diving and surfing. Turn out that they really cut / edit the conversation 😖🙄 Maybe to create the tense atmosphere in their conversation in the car after that 💀

The good thing is that in the Chinese show they give what they cut for us to see (though maybe not all), while there is no hope to see it in the Korean one with their heavy (and evil) editing.

Yeah I am with you on that about Ailin and that Lechen needs to heal himself first.

I got the vibe already even in the train date of him and Yuan that they wouldn't have a long term relationship. Maybe only 1-2 years and then break up, just like what happened with Zhang Genyuan and Li Nieshuangyu. Yuan already described herself as stubborn (in train date) and rash person (in conversation with Jiao). We can even see it when she asked to change her answer in the dinner party when Yuhang didn't give a response that she hoped. What will happen if one day Lechen does something that makes her angry / she can't accept? Maybe she'll ask for a breakup. Yuan is a hard person and doesn't hesitate to decide something fast (that's why she said that she's a rash person).

In that situation, Lechen must be flexible and trying to find a compromise / find a way to accommodate both of them. But in the conversation in the car with Ailin, he said "I think adults only choose, not adjust". While Ailin is willing to find common ground in the differences, Lechen isn't. He even said that Ailin is just comforting herself. He's clearly unwilling to adjust himself, even if it's for the good of both him and his partner. He said that if that day really comes when they (he and his partner) have to part ways, he'll accept it willingly. So if Yuan asks for a breakup, he'll accept it willingly. He won't strive/fight for their relationship. That's why I think that Leyuan won't have a long term relationship.

Ailin, on the other hand, is willing to find a compromise if they have conflict one day. But Lechen doesn't believe that. He seems doesn't believe other view that is different from his. That's why Ailin said "No. That's your opinion.", and then he talked about "feeling touched and being suited are two different things". He's shocked when Ailin said that she enters relationship with marriage in mind. Ailin is thinking about long term relationship, but Lechen is thinking of hopping from one person to another, choosing them until he finds the one that he thinks the most suited for him. He doesn't have a mind for a long term relationship when he starts it. So Lechen wants to start from finding/choosing someone being suited for him and then grow feelings after that, while Ailin wants to start from growing feelings and then overcomes the obstacles/differences by adjusting with each other.

While I think Leyuan won't have a long term relationship, I think Kele even won't be happened. But if Lechen can accepts Ailin's view and Kele can happens, then I think they will have a long term relationship, though maybe it'll lean more to one side with Ailin keeps adjusting herself and "steering" their ship so it won't crash, while waiting for Lechen to change/adjust on his own pace.

But we still have 5 more episodes to come. So let's see what will happen.