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Her friend didn't delete her multiple times. It's not her friend accepted her friend request and deleted her again and accepted and deleted again. Get your fact! It's Ailin that sent her friend the friend request multiple times every 3-4 months, because they're close friends before her friend went to college and deleted her. Her friend accepted the friend request from Ailin at the second year and they're good now. She sent only 6-8 times over 2 years at the most or even less than that, which is still understandable, it's not like she sent friend request 24 times or more over 2 years. Ailin also said that her friend could just reject her and she would stop sending friend request, implying that her friend was just "hanging" her friend request and didn't reject it. You said "instead of showing any willingness to understand her friend's pov", but how can she understand her friend's pov if there is no explanation? Ailin already said that her friend sudden departure must have a reason and that's why she kept trying to add her as friend. To know the reason/explanation so she can understand. They're close friends before. People don't have many close friends in their life, only a few. Most are just acquaintances or not close friends. If you just accept your close friend ghosting you and not trying to find an explanation, well that's your preference, but she's definitely not that type. Maybe you're the type like Lechen and that's why you resonate with him and see Ailin's view negatively. Like Lechen said to Ailin, "So you try to keep the important people around you close. You want to hold on to them ... I rarely try to hold on to friends on purpose."

"She also mentioned breaking up with her ex-boyfriend because he was willing to put in the effort to change and accomodate her but not at HER pace."
Again get your fact! She never mentioned it. Lechen asked "What if they still don't change?" Ailin answered "If they don't change, then so be it. I'll just look for common ground in the differences." She didn't force the person to change. She said about her ex-boyfriend "And I don't think that he never tried to change. It's just that everyone changes at their own pace. I think he's changing. It's just that the speed isn't what I hoped for." If she's willing to look for common ground in the differences, how could she break up just because the change wasn't at her pace? You're twisting what she said here.

"This is why it is puzzing for him and viewers on why she insists on liking him without even trying to actively listen and understand him like Yuan did."
This is answered in "More for Episode 5 (Part 2)" which they cut from the normal episode. This is in Ailin's message to Lechen, "I thought about the question in the car ...", so she did listen and thinking about it. You're so focus on your dislike about Ailin that "Ailin didn't try to actively listen and understand him", so to be fair, how about we reverse it and ask "Did Lechen try to actively listen and understand Ailin?" In the car conversation, Lechen even accused her of just always comforting herself, even after she explained herself.

You seem very bias/hate Ailin. You're free to your opinion though. Just don't twist some facts just to make her look bad.

No, you're not getting a hate, just a reprimand (at least from me), and that is for labeling someone red flag. You even don't know her personally and only see what the show edited for you to see. You're free to have your opinion and you're free to not like Ailin and criticizes her, but labeling someone as red flag is a big NO.

And why do you have to challenge someone to come at you? If you just want to express what you don't like from Ailin then just do it, without labeling someone as red flag. But if you want to make a fan war, please just go to Weibo or whatever social media that did it, but please not here. People here expressed whatever they don't like from Ailin or Lechen, but they did it in a civilized manner, not by red flagging someone, and they who did it got reprimand from others, either it's Ailin hate or Yuan hate. No one here making Lechen or Yuan to be villains. If you're talking about Weibo or other social medias, then please keep it there, don't bring the fans war here. It's quite peaceful here in the comment section and most people are just supporting the ones that they like.

For your points, Qruuz already answered them, so I won't say much about it. And it's not about culture difference between Asian vs Western, it's just like what you said yourself, your perspective. Just because you're an Asian guy, it doesn't mean that you represent other Asian guys. Some will agree with you and some also will disagree with you.

I am happy because I am supporting them and they're my fav 😍 Though I wonder how they could be so careless. Shouldn't they keep it a secret until the last episode? The second floor really has no secret 🤣🤣🤣

Yeah Kelong moments 🥹 And also Lanfang moments for me 😭😭

I also felt that Ailin and Lechen conversation was a bit choppy and unnatural with strange vibe when they ate together in the normal episode. Suddenly it felt different after their happy diving and surfing. Turn out that they really cut / edit the conversation 😖🙄 Maybe to create the tense atmosphere in their conversation in the car after that 💀

The good thing is that in the Chinese show they give what they cut for us to see (though maybe not all), while there is no hope to see it in the Korean one with their heavy (and evil) editing.

Yeah I am with you on that about Ailin and that Lechen needs to heal himself first.

I got the vibe already even in the train date of him and Yuan that they wouldn't have a long term relationship. Maybe only 1-2 years and then break up, just like what happened with Zhang Genyuan and Li Nieshuangyu. Yuan already described herself as stubborn (in train date) and rash person (in conversation with Jiao). We can even see it when she asked to change her answer in the dinner party when Yuhang didn't give a response that she hoped. What will happen if one day Lechen does something that makes her angry / she can't accept? Maybe she'll ask for a breakup. Yuan is a hard person and doesn't hesitate to decide something fast (that's why she said that she's a rash person).

In that situation, Lechen must be flexible and trying to find a compromise / find a way to accommodate both of them. But in the conversation in the car with Ailin, he said "I think adults only choose, not adjust". While Ailin is willing to find common ground in the differences, Lechen isn't. He even said that Ailin is just comforting herself. He's clearly unwilling to adjust himself, even if it's for the good of both him and his partner. He said that if that day really comes when they (he and his partner) have to part ways, he'll accept it willingly. So if Yuan asks for a breakup, he'll accept it willingly. He won't strive/fight for their relationship. That's why I think that Leyuan won't have a long term relationship.

Ailin, on the other hand, is willing to find a compromise if they have conflict one day. But Lechen doesn't believe that. He seems doesn't believe other view that is different from his. That's why Ailin said "No. That's your opinion.", and then he talked about "feeling touched and being suited are two different things". He's shocked when Ailin said that she enters relationship with marriage in mind. Ailin is thinking about long term relationship, but Lechen is thinking of hopping from one person to another, choosing them until he finds the one that he thinks the most suited for him. He doesn't have a mind for a long term relationship when he starts it. So Lechen wants to start from finding/choosing someone being suited for him and then grow feelings after that, while Ailin wants to start from growing feelings and then overcomes the obstacles/differences by adjusting with each other.

While I think Leyuan won't have a long term relationship, I think Kele even won't be happened. But if Lechen can accepts Ailin's view and Kele can happens, then I think they will have a long term relationship, though maybe it'll lean more to one side with Ailin keeps adjusting herself and "steering" their ship so it won't crash, while waiting for Lechen to change/adjust on his own pace.

But we still have 5 more episodes to come. So let's see what will happen.

Hey sorry, I don't know if that reply is for everyone, because it's a reply to Pillowmonk, I didn't read Pillowmonk post detailly before I replied you, sorry 😂😂😂😂

I hope so 🙏 Though the chance is really slim. It'll depend on what happen between her and Lechen later, and also Wang Jue's and Rui Long's moves.

The problem is that he didn't start from the waist, but from the ribs (and bare skin).

If he hugged the waist then maybe he could use his palm to lift her, instead of just using his arm and fingers to lift her. At least there was Lanlan's pants and no direct skinship on sensitive area. And so even if he slipped then his arm wouldn't be so near to her chest and almost touching it.

It will be even better if he asked for something to cover Lanlan's body before doing the pose. It will surely "wow" other people on site and viewers and he'll gain more support to chase Lanlan instead of receiving backlash.

Do you mean about the scene when she and Yuan went together to Lechen's room, or her conversation with Lechen in his room? Sorry that I am not clear about which scene that you meant. If it's about her conversation with Lechen in his room, then you can scroll down a bit and see my explanation about it in my another comment there 😊

Ailin didn't request Lechen to think carefully about who he gave his cards to. He already gave his cards to both of her and Yuan. She's talking about her second card and asked Lechen to make a choice. Please don't twist it.

"Looking upset after Ailin left"
You better go back to my post and read it again. And it's weird for me. Lechen was having his feet on two boats. So did you mean that he's looking upset because he was asked by Ailin to make a choice, and that Ailin should just let him having his feet on two boats so that Lechen would not be upset?

You keep saying that he crossed his arms and stop smiling. Maybe better you go back and watch it again carefully. I went back to watch it and replay it again and again, pause, play, and replay. As I said already, I literally wrote it scene by scene. Yes he crossed his arms but he did it mimicking Ailin, and he didn't stop smiling at that time.

If you think Ailin asking Lechen to make a clear stance so she could plan her future and her next step in the house is that she's pressuring Lechen while he's having his feet on two boats, so do you think she should just be quiet and waiting for Lechen enjoying the two girls until the time in the house was over and wasting her time and just accepted whatever decision that Lechen made after that, just so that Lechen didn't feel pressured?

You keep saying that you like both Ailin and Yuan, but why do you always keep looking for Ailin's fault even if it's not there? I think that you're actually only like Yuan. I never before see someone that likes a participant but keep looking for that participant's fault even if it's not there.

The topic is "Ailin hate is forced", and some accused you for hating. You denied the accusation and then made a claim about she's pressuring Lechen, which I can't understand. Okay, let's say that Ailin was pressuring Lechen. Then what did you mean by that? So "Ailin was pressuring Lechen" justifies Ailin hate, and so Ailin hate is not forced? Is that how you defend Yuan? By dragging Ailin down? Because many people in Weibo were hating on Yuan then Ailin must be hated also to make a balance?

You said that maybe it’s good pressure. So if it's a good pressure then why is it a problem for you? A problem that even justifies Ailin hate?

It's not a matter of perspective. It's about your stance to the topic. That's why many people made a counter to what you said or accused you as hating. Though the topic is "Ailin hate is forced" and there is no relation to Yuan since it didn't mention anything about Yuan, you dragged Yuan into it.

Maybe it's just your choice of words that's wrong. You said "What about Yuan hate? So many people on Weibo hating on her too." to counter the OP. In my opinion, you should just say "I think that Yuan hate is also forced. So many people on Weibo hating on her too. Those two poor girls.", and then continue with the rest of your sentence in that post." That makes it clear that you also defend Yuan (if you want to mention her) and is in line with what you claimed that you like both Ailin and Yuan.

"What about Yuan hate?" sounds more like you're retorting/challenging the OP, implying that because Yuan is hated then Ailin must be hated also and Ailin hate is not forced, hence the accusations, and aggravated with your claim about Lechen's pressure by Ailin.

I know that your reply was meant to conclude this peacefully, but really sorry that I have to disagree with your claim or perspective about Lechen's pressure because it's not true that Ailin asked Lechen to think carefully about who he gave his cards to, and hence pressuring Lechen. I agree with you though that Lechen had to make a decision and not dragging this situation, so the girl that was rejected would still have enough time for her next step in the house.

I can't comment about the production crew because I don't know whether it's true or not.

But yeah I also felt uncomfortable when I saw Jiao hugged Lanlan on her bare skin really near to her chest. I can't imagine how dr. Fang felt at that time. Though I have to give Jiao the benefit of the doubt looking at how he clenched his fist and not touching Lanlan's skin with his palm.

And yeah I agree with that comment that they should lend Lanlan something to cover her body first before doing the pose.

That scene is in the "More for Episode 4 (Part 2)". You can watch it now in WeTV (VIP) or the goplay site.

I am a bit shame with your praise. It's only a normal observation for me, but hey, a praise is a praise, and it's good so thank you very much! 😊

I think Lechen's hesitation is not because of his inferiority thing. If Lechen's inferiority is the problem then I don't think he will chase a girl or accept a girl's approach because he'll think that he's not worth it. He even felt that he had to do his 100%, 120%, 200% just to make a person to like him in the past. So that should not be his problem. In my personal opinion, it's because he felt uncertain about his feelings and was torn between Ailin and Yuan.

Ailin was his first choice and that's why he approached Ailin and because Ailin liked him also (even first before him) then they became intimate fast with each other. Their situation was more or less like that of Lanlan and Fang (Fang approached Lanlan and Lanlan liked him so they became intimate fast). But then Yuan approached him proactively and he liked the attention from Yuan. He's torn because he certainly had feelings for Ailin since she's his first choice and as can be seen in the sport day when he tried to console Ailin and how he thought that it's Ailin that invited him to the train date, but he also started to grow feelings for Yuan so he didn't reject Yuan's approach, unlike how he rejected Wang Jue's approach. I guess that he's so tempted that he even prepared Yuan's card before Ailin's, and that he actually wanted to go and give it to Yuan secretly after preparing the card, but Yuan beat him to it and even came to him openly. That's why he's being indecisive. He didn't want to lose both girls. Though he understood what Ailin meant and could just say that he liked Yuan, but he's unwilling to let Ailin left him, so he didn't want to give an answer and hence his complicated thoughts.

I understand what you meant with Oscar and Leyan that this season is lacking. But we have many brave girls this season which other seasons are lacking (except Yang Ruqing in S6 which still impresses me until now). So there's plus and minus. I also agree with you that we should support happiness for everyone. This is their lives, and we're just viewers so let's just enjoy the show 😊

It's because of Lechen's hesitation when Ailin asked him. I gave a full explanation in a comment not far below this (which is funnily replied to BaobeiJCT that also replied to you 😂). Just scroll down a bit and you'll see it 😊

Lechen's pressure was not because of Ailin, but it came from that both girls knew that he gave his cards to each of them, so he felt awkward. He even said "Wait a second. Wasn't it supposed to be a secret?"

He didn't stop smiling. He crossed his arms mimicking Ailin that crossed her arms, not because of pressure. Because she saw that Lechen gave Yuan his card, she didn't know whether it's just a polite reply or that he's interested in Yuan, though she's surely suspicious because of what happened in the sport day and how readily Lechen gave his card to Yuan. Lechen had been intimate in his communications with her until Yuan's train date with him happened. That's why she teased Lechen at the beginning about how fast he wrote his card and Lechen just played dumb.

She then told him that she didn't write a name in her second card because she wanted to see first what Lechen did (whether Lechen gave his card to anyone else other than her). What's the situation would be? She wanted to check it first. Should she write the name (Lechen's name) in person for the second card? She's asking that to Lechen, not asking herself. And that's when Lechen started to be serious and not playing dumb anymore, because it's a serious question. But he still had his smile there. Ailin went on with saying that she's been torn for a long time whether her second card was for the person's name (Lechen) or kept leaving it blank, because she felt that half of the time (in the house) had already passed and she thought that every choice should be considered carefully. She told Lechen that she was worried that he would feel pressured so that's why she only wrote one card for him, not both of her cards.

Ailin was asking Lechen to make a choice, a clear stance whether he's serious with her. If he said to Ailin to write his name on the second card then that means he's serious with her and asked for all of her cards for him. And if he said to leave it blank or write another name instead, then that would mean that he told her he's not serious with her or that he had another option besides her (Yuan). So if he said that "No" then that means Ailin wouldn't need to waste her time anymore on Lechen. That's Ailin's right to ask.

But Lechen said to not worry too much about his feelings. Ailin could only reply "If you says so, that's fine. You're not afraid of pressure. Alright, that's fine. Do you like this move? Okay" and left disappointedly because Lechen didn't give a clear answer. Lechen hanged Ailin in an uncertain situation.

And that's WHEN he felt the pressure because of the situation, not because Ailin pressured him. He's torn between Ailin and Yuan. He couldn't be happy go lucky anymore with the two girls having his feet on two boats. He had to start making up his mind. Just like what he said to Yuan that he had complicated thoughts.

I literally wrote it scene by scene. Lechen was on Ailin before but then he changed and started to be on Yuan also. Ailin saw that and she asked for a clear answer because half of the time in the house already passed and she didn't want to be stuck on someone that's not serious with her while she's serious with that person. She's basically saying "If you're not serious with me then I will leave, but if you're serious with me then don't make a misunderstanding with another woman".

The women in the panel understood that. Even Du Haitao which is a man understood that. It's already a wonder that no women in the panel roasted Lechen like what happened to Muchen, especially Chunye as mentioned by someone in the comment section. So I can't understand how Ailin gave Lechen a lot of pressure, which is repeatedly mentioned, and he stopped smiling and closing himself off by crossing his arms. The pressure that Lechen felt was from the situation that he created himself.

I am not saying that you're hating. But I also can't understand your claim about the pressure.

It's not that Ailin felt that Rui Long only behaved like socially friendly towards her.

First she said that her second card was still blank when Rui Long asked whether she had no more card left (because Rui Long saw that she hesitantly accepted the card), and then said that she gave her first card to Lechen, indirectly telling Rui Long that she liked Lechen (or at least interested in him) and had no interest with other guys (that's why her second card was blank).

Because this was a dating proposal card, Rui Long giving this card to her made Ailin wondered whether Rui Long liked her or not. First the train date and then a dating proposal card. So she said to Rui Long that after the train date she wondered whether why Rui Long felt comfortable with her was because of her social personality with everyone, or was it because of she herself as a person (indicating that Rui Long was interested in her)? She then added that she didn't know whether Rui Long understood that.

She went on with that "being boyfriend and girlfriend is not the only goal, right?" and "being good friends is also a great thing", trying to reject him indirectly so it wouldn't hurt him too much. That's why Rui Long took a step back, but still unwilling to let the date went away, he said that he just wanted to hang out. Since he said that, Ailin saw no reason to reject his offer and gave him her second card. I don't think Rui Long saying he's serious is a wise move, because then Ailin wouldn't give him her second card and Rui Long couldn't have his date with Ailin.

This is the post from someone that shaded Yuan that you replied:
"I’m really not the type of person who wants to get into fan wars or drag another woman, especially not over a boy. ... But here’s where things get strange. I’ve been watching chinese dating shows for years, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a situation quite like what’s happening with Luyan and her fandom."

This is what your original post said:
"Far from participating nor encouraging the hate towards a participant. I must say i started to be very disappointed by Ailin's actions ..."

This is part of your reply to that person:
"i find it very strange (almost like you have an ulterior motive) for you start you comment by sayin you're not into fanwar or dragging an innocent woman in the mud just to go right after on a rant that is in fact the very thing you're claiming not to be into. Strange isn't it ? ;)"

Ironically, both of you started with "blablabla I am not here to attack certain participant" but then went on with attacking that participant. Don't you find it an irony that you criticized that person but you actually did the same thing? Your reply to that person really is not in line with what you said here.

It's funny that I was pointing how you twisted the facts, and then you assumed that I was hurt, attacked, triggered, threaten by your simple (not) facts and criticisms. You tried to paint me as an emotional Ailin fan trying to defend her and felt hurt, indirectly trying to belittle and demean what I said. You said that you'll defend both if you see unfair "real attacks" made towards them, but actually attacked one of them and even painted Ailin's behavior with red flag? What made you think that I didn't defend Ailin from the unfair attack? You can see that I don't make many comments and just thread this comment section peacefully and only react when there is a post like yours.

What you did is not being critical but making assumptions and twisting facts. You're free to have your opinion. You're free to like Yuan and becomes Leyuan fan. You're free to not liking Ailin's behavior. But that doesn't mean that you can freely shading the participant, especially with red flag this red flag that and by twisting the facts with your assumptions and theories. I already told how you twisted the facts in my previous post, so if you didn't clear about it you can go back to that post. I won't repeat it again here.

I also already went back to watch the ep4 part 3 and also the train date in ep 3 to check before I replied you in my first post, especially because of your comment about "After Chen confided in Yuan he doesn't want to be in a controlling relationship". I am not interested in debate especially about assumption. Like I said you're free to have your opinion. You can criticized Ailin's behavior if you don't like it, but not by red flag this red flag that and twisting the facts.

And FYI, I am Lanlan fan, not Ailin fan. I also like Ailin, Yifan, Chichi, and Yuan though. All of them except Wang Jue, and Lanlan is my fav. No hate for Wang Jue but also no like for her from me till now. Maybe I will change my mind after I watch her date with Rui Long.

Yuan and Ailin met when they're out from their rooms on the way to Lechen. Don't make it sounds like Ailin followed Yuan. Ailin even stopped and offered Yuan to wait for her to talk first to Lechen but Yuan refused and said that they went together, that's why Ailin was behind Yuan because Yuan kept walking.

You made it that Ailin wanted to pry on the conversation when she decided to stand not too far waiting for her turn, but ignored that other people watching and eavesdropping from their respective rooms with wide open doors, like what Chichi said "no secret on the second floor". Ailin just stood there in awkwardness. Can't you see that Ailin was looking at the direction of other rooms and could only smile awkwardly? Fang even walked passed near them. You even ignored the fact that Yuan also stood there not far on the previous Ailin position after she finished with Lechen waiting for Ailin. So Ailin "decided to ostensibly pry on their talk which is very disrespectful and has put pressure on both Yuan and Lechen", but Yuan not? Ailin even repeatedly looking back at Yuan and decided to close the door so that Yuan couldn't hear the conversation.

Lechen never said to Yuan that he doesn't want to be in controlling relationship (and the way you said it implied as if Ailin tried to control Lechen while she didn't) in their train date. Lechen said that in the past he did 100%, 120%, even 200% his best just so the other person would like him. He also never said anything about "controlling relationship" in the conversation in his room with Yuan. Ailin just wanted a clear stance from Lechen because she saw that Lechen readily brought the card for Yuan and exchanged directly in front of the door, and that made her flabbergasted. Lechen even didn't need to tell Yuan to wait and wrote a card as reply. He readily brought the card with him when he opened the door.

Twisting all of these facts and saying Lechen will reject Ailin in the date and Ailin red flag this and red flag that, and also your reply to someone that tried to shade Yuan, that makes me suspicious that you're just actually a Leyuan fan trying to talk bad shadily about Ailin disguising it as being critical. This is not in line with your reply to that person. While you criticized that person, you actually did the same thing, and what you said can incite a fan war here just like that's already happened in social medias.

If you like Yuan just say you like Yuan. If you don't like Ailin just say you don't like Ailin. If you're neutral then keep neutral. But don't shade the participant with red flag this red flag that. I really can't understand why people really like to label someone else red flag to shade that person.

(Stealing Qruuz's comment) I am with you on this 💯

I also don't play social media much because I don't want people to ruin my mood and fun. I don't use twitter also and I only follow some of the participants on weibo and instagram after the show that i watched ended. I just enjoy the show and don't care about rumors or whatever.

I hope that people won't bring the fan wars or toxic comments to this forum. Let them fight in twitter and weibo if they want, but not here. Korean dating shows comment sections are full of really toxic comments especially My Sibling's Romance and I don't want them to bring it to the Chinese dating show comment section which was quite peaceful usually.

On the WeTV app ofc. If you're an SVIP then you can watch it on that very Wednesday. If you're a VIP only then you should be able to watch the content on Friday or Saturday. But if you're a free user then probably you can only watch the Wednesday content 2 weeks later after the content comes up (since it's still be locked under VIP tag even after a week passes).

Another way to watch for free is using goplay site which you can see the link was provided by Violet just 2 comments before you. This site usually matches the VIP schedule so you can watch the Wednesday content there on Friday or Saturday.