mysteryqueen9

Are you talking about the tattooed man from last minute of the drama?? The character is Donald Na for sure

the japanese movie?? Damn, it is an amazing one, I really loved it

When PWS died, JB had been already awake for 2/3 months, but he wasn't yet going to school, he went back to school in ep 1

I have more and more questions
-They didn't show us that friendship of 4, how they bonded, what broke their friendship...okay. A disappointment, but whatever. But why did Osung keep that polaroids?? The stupidest thing ever, since he wasn't in love with anyone in that photo, why keep such incriminating evidences of your secret connection to the victim?? If he wanted to just manipulate JB into thinking he was involved with PWS, he should have just kept the edited ones.
-Why did he bully PWS? Osung is a piece of shit and may want to bully some random people because he is a bully and trash, but why he was bent on messing with PWS when they were in theory friends, and most important, JB kept pushing him to stop?? There's something that must have made him hate PWS so much
-The reason for pushing JB was bullshit. Leaving aside that kissing your stepsis isn't such a terrible scandal to attempt murder (yes, people have killed for less, but alledgedly this guy is smart enough to know leaving a pile of corpses behind for petty arguments is a ticking bomb that can explode at any time) JB was his f*cking bestie, he would have kept his mouth sealed if Osung stopped messing with PWS. Instead, he decides to go search for his friend, kick him at the back like a coward where he knew JB usually spent time listening to music. It's weird too because he never gets his hands dirty, he uses another people to cause chaos but he attacked JB personally.
- Why he didn't just blow the whistle of PWS's murder? He knew perfectly well JB had both DID and amnesia. He could have said to the police he had seen JB killing PWS, and that he has DID so he becomes a perfect suspect bc he won't be able to deny the accusations, and his normal persona doesn't remember you gaslighting him. Even if he suddenly remembered you pushing him from the rooftop, you can say he is only trying to throw dirt on you to deny his murder. Instead, you let him happily regain bits and bits of info (JB had admited to Osung he was slowly regaining his memory) and do whatever possible to keep the secret, making you absolutely suspicious and creating a time bomb bc the moment JB remembers you are screwed.
And why the f*ck JB's mom knew about his son having DID and do nothing?! Lady, you have loads of money, make him go to therapy, receive treatment to overcome the trauma of his twin's death and tell him the truth. But this woman thinks is reasonable that when your son affected with DID asks her distressed if someone has entered his room, she just react as if he is having crazy thoughts. Why his family doesn't tell him the truth and support him?

It could be that the reason, that he wanted JB far away from JSH, but that happen too early in the story, when JSH was seemingly not involved in the investigation of PWS' death. In my honest opinion it's more like bad writing, or Osung having a sick twisted obsession with both JB and stepsister
That would have been a f*cking good plot twist: Osung manipulating JB only to be discovered that JB had played him all along and was really a criminal mastermind! I personally have no problem with the gashlighting turn, it's cool, but I felt like Osung's actions in general didn't totally add up, some plots weren't well executed....

The missing photo was took by JB, it was shown in one of the previous eps. The reason? No idea. But yes, there are questions unanswered, like how they became friends, why Sejin didn't say anything about Osung to Chanmi, etc

I am thinking it would have been very interesting if this drama was told from JB's perspective. Not hate to Chanmi, but her character frustrated me sometimes and JB was such a fascinating character, I would have love having him as the MC, feeling there is something fishy with his amnesia and that it's somehow connected to this boy's death, a boy who he doesn't even remember. Seeing him developing a friendship with JH, the ins and outs of his super shady friendship with Osung, etc. I may write a fanfic of it or something in future LOL, or if someone writes about this show inform me please

Yeah, they def took that suspicious basketball jealous scene and took it even further in ep 12 by showing him acting like a jilted lover. So I am very confused, because I would think the hints of a possible crush for JB were all intentional misdirections from the writer to later surprise as with KJH's plot twist if they didn't yet again include a jealous Osung scene in the last ep. What they were trying to convey? They could have put the recipe in JB's hands in any other way. I will take it as him seeing both KJH and JB as his toys, who he is possesive of and has a fondness of them, but will break them at any given time if they "betray" him

-I felt unnecessary JB's split personality because why should you add such a plot device (they have shown us soo many hints about it) when it serves no purpose on the story?? Really, what does it change? Couldn't everything be just the same with his amnesia? After all, the reason why Osung could manipulate him into thinking PWS pushed him from the rooftop was he had no memories. IMO, they should have bet for his amnesia OR his DID, not both. In fact it would have been way more impactful if for example JB were one unreliable narrator, who acts innocent even when he is alone, having all his memories (so not even us watchers suspect him) and later they begin showing hints of his DID and is revealed that O sung manipulated him knowing his sickness. The thing is they should have chosen or amnesia or DID.
-Osung has really some contradictory behaviours imo: so you like KJH, but there's not a single hint to that (apart from that basketball glance, bc the photos were uploaded for getting more followers for the livestream) and in fact there are a lot of his attitudes that pointed to the opposite. It's not that I am mad that I was wrong about this plot twist: in fact, I love it when I get everything wrong in a mystery show but everything fits perfectly, makes a lot of sense and it's like: how could I have not noticed this hint or that!! But I am sorry, there are way more confusing situations that made it look like Osung was in love with JB (though I have admit it would also have been more interesting for me having Osung get blackmailed bc he was a repressed gay after he did such a dirty thing to PWS like blackmailing him just because he was in love...sigh. It would have been totally karma for that son of a b*tch)
Talking about JB and Osung relationship, I just felt also hella confusing that, after seeing Osung kicked JB to an almost certain death, with no regret or remorse at all, gashlighting him to the point where he murdered PWS... that we see in ep 12 with the recipe scene how he indeed was f*cking jealous of JB and JSH's possible friendship. Hello? why do you act like you give a shit for JB and his friendship when we know you don't?? This boy annoys me too much.
I felt some plot twists a little forced
-That ending scene of everyone covering JSH was clearly inspired in Élite. The difference is in Élite it makes way more sense because the secret is only known by a small group of friends. Here we are talking about a whole student body who only cover his crimes because he looks "cool" for beating that rap*st. So 0 credibility, but it is indeed satisfying as f*ck though
All in all, though it could look like I hated the drama, in fact I liked it a lot, though the ending has let
me down in some points, and I think they could have taken more interesting murder/crimes
motivation (JB's reason for killing PWS was fine, I like the gashlighting turn, but I still think KJH's
secret was a flimsy one, not well developed with hints)
I really really loved JB's character and the actor portrayed his character so well, I really liked how FL avoided him harming himself and I am happy he had a reasonable good ending, though I feel bitter for how Osung's manipulation destroy his life, how could that crocroach take advantage of my little cutie!
I really enjoyed the ride!!

-I see oddly fitting that scene at class at ep 12 when they focused on O Sung as the teacher was talking about kafka's metamorphosis: "he was a huge crocroach" LOL, we see you writers, I loved it
-Female detective saying: "those two are always one step ahead of us (OCH and JSH) mmm hello???? that's not weird because perhaps if you weren't so f*cking uncompetent, it's no wonder they could not catch master of gashlighting and co

PREDICTIONS REVENGE OF OTHERS
-Motive of murder: PWS was digging into some bullying, related to O Sung and JB. It could be for example that Osung (and even JB) were involved with the bullying of Jin Soo Heon’s bro who killed himself. PWS who hates bullying, was a friend of the victim and him and Se Jin approached JB and O Sung with ulterior motives, wanted to uncover the truth. JB and PWS got close, so the group of 4 was formed, though I suspect O Sung never saw Se Jin and PWS as friends, and only put up with them for JB’s sake. O Sung (who I am convinced is in love with JB) was very upset and jealous because Jae Beom had a crush on PWS, so he searched for ways to mess up with PWS. O sung discovered PWS and Se jin were dating in secret, so he blackmailed PWS into doing whatever he asked. Later on, the tables were turned when PWS got something on O Sung: I believe it could have been his love for JB got discovered by PWS
Kook Hi Jyun is somehow involved (in the preview, JB says: “this is all because of of KJH”) so I think she may have overheard PWS and Sejin talking, or come upon some info about PWS that was a threat to O Sung. She told O Sung, who went to confront Jae Beom about the ulterior motives of PWS and SJ: JB got so emotional that his “evil personality” took over (I think his split personality kicks in when he is very stressed), they had a huge fight at the rooftop, they were pushing each other and JB fell. O Sung would feel distressed and blamed PWS in his heart.
After waking up from the coma, JB was amnesiac. But one day his “evil side” (not neccesarily evil, but darker than softie JB) took over him and that personality has no amnesia, so he went after PWS to confront him about what O Sung had told him that day on the rooftop. I think there were two people in that classroom (if you look at first episode, PWS looked over two different directions). So, Jae Beom, O sung and PWS were there: Jae Beom killed him, and O Sung helped cover up the crime
-I believe when JB recovers his memories, he will only remember the memories from his “normal” personality. The others will be recovered at the last scenes in the show
-Ajung are Sejin are taking revenge from the shadows against PWS’s murderer (who they believe is the murderer): they are the ones framing O Sung in previous eps (with the recipe, Ajung badmouthing him and exposing his blackmail of PWS, etc).
-Motive of murder of doctor’s daughter killer: O sung and that juvenile delinquent went to the same school (said by female detective), it’s not too wild to imagine he was his lackey and did shady stuff for him, like Sa Jung Gyeong does now for Osung, so he was involved in whatever ugly business happened in highschool with O Sung
-JB is the one that stole Osung’s phone. At first I thought it was Ajung (she is involved for sure in the mystery) but the most likely is whoever has his phone, has also PWS’s phone, because Chanmi Heard Osung’s ringtone when someone called her from her bro’s mobile. It makes 0 sense for the killer to leave behind PWS’s phone in crime scene, so the killer or his accomplice must have it. Therefore, ruling out O sung because someone so smart as him (he planned the livestream so much) would never make such a foolish mistake as calling Chanmi and letting his ringtone play, JB is the one that stole his phone (like he did with Chanmi and JSH’s pictures) and called her.
-I am sure the phone he throws into the water in preview is NOT PWS’S, but Osung’s stolen phone, or even his own (remember it has a tracking app and he knows it) .
-The fight at the rooftop from previews: I bet for a JSH and OS spectacular fight until Chanmi aims at Osung with her gun, believing him the murderer and at that super dramatic moment, JB will appear (missing since stables scene) and will reveal he is the killer. Boom
I will not go into this page anymore until I have watched last 2 eps, let’s see if I guess something right lol. Whatever happens, I will remain loving my little JB, and please JSH be alright.

That scene happened in ep 5. minute 49:30

I think O Sung pushed JB (not on purpose), but he isn't the killer of PWS. I have been thinking how Kook Ji Hyun fits in the narrative because of previews it seems she is somehow connected to the mystery, as in preview JB says "This is all because of KJH". I believe that she may have overhead some conversation between PWS and Sejin, or come up with some info that she shared with O Sung. For example, O Sung (and perhaps even JB) may have been involved in some shit or bullying at their old highschool and PWS was digging into that, KJH got the info, confided the info to O Sung. O Sung went to confront JB (who was in love with PWS) about PWS having ulterior motives to approach them; they got into a huge fight in the rooftop and things scalated to a point where JB's other personality took control.
I think JB's split disorder is a defense mechanism of his brain to deal with the trauma of his twin's death, so when things get too stressful for him, the other JB comes out. This huge fight seems a very reasonable moment to have "evil side" come out. And in the heat of the moment, they were pushing each other around and JB fell accidentally.
So yes, I think O Sung pushed JB, but not in purpose. JB fell in a coma, and woke up amnesiac, but only his normal side is amnesiac, so one day the "evil side" took over, he went to confront PWS about the info O Sung had given him in the rooftop (that may have come from KJH) and killed PWS. O Sung saw this and helped JB cover it up
And I believe Sejin and Ajung are also involved, looking revenge in the shadows against PWS's killer, so they are framing O Sung

I curious thing that I noticed in rewatch: the scene where JB brought to school the picture of him with PWS riding horses, O sung looked at A Jung in panic and hid the photo in a book. At first I thought he was simply looking around to see if anyone had seen it, but no, he was looking at her when she wasn't even the closest person to them in the class. Ajung is involved with PWS in some way for sure, bc remember PWS used her as a fake girlfriend. If I were him, I would choose a close friend as a cover, not a classmate who barely knows me.

It looks to me that the boys on the photo are Sejin (the one on the left, bc it looks like he has curly hair) and PWS (the one on the right bc of his body type: Sejin and O Sung are slender, only PWS and Jae Beom have that body complexion)
I understood that sentence "Now it's Jin Soo Heon" as a hint to JB being in love with PWS. So he "courted" PWS in the past as he seemed to be doing with Jin Soo Heon : getting him expensive gifts like basketball tickets, being so nice and going after him, etc
In my opinion, the group of friends was formed because JB and PWS got close, and Sejin joined for PWS, and O Sung tag along bc of JB, but it wasn't really a friendship of four: more like two friends on one side (Sejin and PWS) and two friends on the other (O Sung and JB) who got along because of PWS and JB being suddenly close. I doubt O Sung was really happy with that arrangement, so he tried very hard to find some weakness of PWS to exploit and have power over him. In fact, imo we can see PWS and O Sung dynamic in his interactions with JSH: Soo Heon is a thorn in his eye (just the same as PWS was) so he will try any means to destroy him
So the moment the weak link they had fell (JB and PWS) the group crumbled like a house of cards

Wow, that Liang Xia (FL's friend) is really something
She knew from first moment she met SML that her bff was in love with him, so when they got together she purposely mantain the relationship a secret...what a way to make a fool of your friend
I hate her character already and there's nothing that can justify her actions: if you value your friend, a) you will not go out with the man she is in love with
b)You come clean and explain to her that you two are in love. Ofc you will hurt her at first, but you can't avoid it
This girl wants to have the cake and eat it too... I am mad because FL has all the reason to cut ties with her, but instead she will play the saint and try to act as if all is fine. Girl, your friend is a snake, run from such a toxic person

I agree 100%. I think the scene in the preview where JB says "Everything that will happen in the future is bc of KJH" is misleading. Some people believe Osung loves his stepsister because of that glance at the basketball scene and the preview, but he seemed wayyy more jealous when he saw JB with Jin Soo Heon, to the point where he spied on them from the corridor (basketball tickets scene) and from a window lol
I don't feel like there is anything romantic in Osung and KJH interactions; more like they kind of despise each other. But even if O Sung had something with KJH iin the past it makes 0 sense this is blackmail material (at that time I don't even think their parents were married,), much less as a murder motive.
But I have to admit I am really curious to know how she fits in all of this, I never considered she would play a part in the murder mystery. Indeed, the person that holds a knife to Ji Hyun looks like O Sung, at least he was the one holding it against Jin Soo Heon.
And yes, all connects to JB: I have no doubts the root of the mystery is Jae Beom and his split disorder will play a relevant part.
I personally believe the killer is JB, and O Sung is the accomplice that covered JB. It stands out for me how the last "proof" that makes people think O sung is the killer is that red laced shoe; but I recall how JB gifted O sung previously in the story some limited edition pair of shoes; perhaps this were also a gift from JB, or O sung bought two pairs and gifted one to JB

I am rewatching some scenes from eps (too desperate until next week lol) and I think we can see JB double personality in that scene with Osung at the park. He was crying saying he felt like he was going crazy, and when O Sung tried to comforted him "how could you know"? Damn, how his voice and attitude changed. He was scary as fuck, out of the blue. Even O sung was afraid, and it wasn't until Osung punched him that he reverted to his previous crying weak attitude.
The thing that really stands out for me in that scene is when JB says: "are you trying to manipulate me, like you did to PWS?" "Hyung, it's not the same". My question is, how could JB know O Sung was manipulating PWS? He is amnesiac. I don't remember Chanmi or anyone telling this piece of info to JB

Apart from what all I said previously in my theory, I have been thinking and something big had to happen in the stables. There are so many things related to them: SJB disoriented realising he is there, and not remembering how he got there; SJB and PWS photo with the horses; preview from next ep shows O Sung and Jae Beom having a big fight at the stables, once JB has recovered his memories

And that veiled white lotus really thinks she is all that; being so offended by Wu You suggestion's and venting her rage on FL. Someone should take her down a peg or two