I haven’t watched ep 10 yet, but has the granddaughter been written out of the drama ? Actress had some problems or something like that? Or she’ll only appear again in the present ?
Because it’s been 9 episodes, and we haven’t seen her since that small meeting scene in ep 1, between her and the crazy grandson where she appeared to be threatening his plans and then the ML got killed. I thought at that point that she was behind his murder but it’s like they’ve forgotten her character since
Can I just say his interviews are a gem? I almost don’t want to share them and keep him hidden protected—
By the way, can we kindly change that profile picture already ? It’s eons old and does not in any way justify his vibe/charms and also for those who don’t know him well he’s kind of unrecognisable in that pic. He has so many legendary photoshoots to choose from, why this—
I felt like the plot was written by at least 3 different people trying to make the story interesting and giving…
^^Summary of my experience. 🔺⭐️🤣
Gong Ji Hoon’s actor should do probably a straight up comedy once. (And now I’m imagining how he would have been if he’d joined Kwak Dong Yeon in Gaus… )
Great potential ruined by a misogynistic screenwriter who made the whole plot revolve around the male lead and…
People be throwing terms anytime anywhere
The FL not having equal character development or screentime does not actually make a work misogynistic automatically. Just like there are works that are centred on female characters, there are works centred on male characters. Not everything has to be 100% “equal” all of the time.
Some plots have one main character. Some have two. Some have 3 or 4 or an entire ensemble. Some have 1 Male Lead, 1 Female Lead. Some have 2 Male Leads (School 2013, Reborn Rich) . Some have 3 Female Leads (Little Women, 39, Search WWW)
This drama is obviously not a romcom. It’s an action fantasy/sci-fi, with the romance as a subplot. Therefore the writer is not actually obliged to give as much presence to the female lead. (Who as a comment above has stated, she is quite independent, self-reliant, does not even fall in the damsel in distress situation as much as most dramas but rather is the one saving the ML often, and she also has the most powerful game character).
But go ahead and sue the writer, judging her by one work simply because the focus is on the ML’s game journey (the game being the actual plot here) and the FL isn’t throwing knives and slashing swords (wherein she would end up being saved heroically by the ML going by typical dramas).
100% rewatchable and same entertaining as the first time that I watched it back when it was first released. Upon…
Not quite unnecessary. She was one of the reasons keeping him mildly sane and bringing him back to the real world, or he would have long lost himself to the violence of the virtual reality.
She was kind of his physical crutch, (and a literal one considering her presence itself protected him), something he could cling to as a source of hope and respite (and he already lead a pessimistic life before the game crashed into his life).
But the romance was underdeveloped, as was the FL’s character. She could have played a bigger role with her connection to the game, but it was never really fulfilled to its potential. I didn’t mind PSH in this, she was intriguing as Emma, but maybe a stronger actress could have also helped in the romance department.
Jin Woo cant see Marco anyway unless he made an alliance with Se Joo. So from the game POV, Jin Woo only need…
The Marco bug would have been deleted by Emma herself in the 13 hours she took to reset the game. Except the Jin Woo has no reason to witness that since his own game wasn’t connected to Marco’s bug.
Love this writer! Fell for Kdramas after discovering her works 💕
I hope she comes out soon with an original work again. Her ideas are really out of the box and so very intriguing and relatable.
I remember her saying once that she struggled with endings and didn’t have them in mind when she first starts writing, so I hope she’ll find a way to reconcile that and polish up her execution. I’ve never had a problem following her logic but I can see why some audiences would be frustrated or lost.
Do Jun have more chemistry with Hyun Min too bad she's not the female lead. Such an interesting character
Both the husband and wife are an interesting pair of characters. They have a mix of victim + villain thing going on for them, with the villain quality winning. And good actors playing them to life, I quite like the grandson’s deep, powerful voice.
But they deserve each other, how ever miserable they are together, it’s better than making an innocent suffer in a relationship with their twisted minds.
More than that is the sense of omniscience I got with his Reborn Rich character which gave me a stark reminder…
Yeah, I like this better than Vincenzo (maybe just cause there’s less wildly contrasting slapstick relief, I love Lee Sung Min, and the historical references are quite interesting and fun)
Well, she is an actress, isn't she? Are married women forbidden from playing in romances?
delulu fans….
I’ve come across people who because they don’t think they can ship two actors in real life, they don’t like the drama or drama ship either, even if the chemistry, acting and storyline is all on fire.
(And this is usually because they are too obsessed with shipping them with some other costar in real life…)
Kpop or drama fandom, it’s equally delusional and toxic
Lol you need to learn more about the world you live in kiddo. Just consider the ages of your own grandparents…
Your first original comment is about how you find it surprising and unbelievable that the main character becomes a grandfather in his early forties. Nothing about the real life ages of the actors and it not matching up. Which isn’t a necessity or priority if they act their parts well and the audience likes them. Most of the cast’s ages won’t match with any single time period because the plot stretches over a lifetime of 20 plus years.
It doesn’t matter if you are Asian or Martian. The drama is adapted from a web novel which uses the Samsung group as a motif. According to which, the young age of the grandfather in the drama and Lee Sung Min’s visuals and styling among other things are a match.
PS. SJK’s character was said to be 20 (internationally that translates into 19 or even 18, Korean age is counted differently) in ep 3, when he started college (so a first year freshman) and then we’ve had a few weeks or months time skip until the IMF fallout and his eventual reveal to the grandpa. The other grandson, is the eldest grandson+eldest grandchild, son of the grandad’s first son. He was still a teenager when SJK first crash landed in the past as a child, so take from that what you will about his age
This comment seems to sum up how I felt about the “male lead” in this drama:
“ To me, for a while I genuinely thought the show was trying to illustrate that attraction is what separates creepy from romantic and good from bad. The way the stalker character manipulated people and things, particularly Min Soo the Seol impersonating girl, was so mirror image of the way Yoo Jung did things and manipulated things that I thought it had to be intentional to show how scummy and dangerous the main lead was.
>>!!People say he didn't get a redemption arc but I found him irredeemable by like episode 4 and no new scenes would change that tbh.!!<<
Look at the way he treated Seol when he didn't like her. In reality imagine how a breakup with a guy like that ends.
Getting In Ha to set a dangerous stalker on Seol, standing by as In Ho was beaten and severely injured, manipulating, using, encouraging and enabling In Ha, threatening the TAs life and livelihood to get his own way, spiralling the Seol impersonator Min Soo, forcing the neighbour from his home and the despicable way he treats both In Ha and In Ho and not even mentioning his extreme possessiveness. He did so much unforgivable shit but people justify it cos his dad was mean to him or that he’s misunderstood. >>!!Or people used that super toxic "but the abusive god complex sociopath needs Seol to change" defence.!!<<
You could turn this series into a psychological thriller where its very obvious to everyone but Seol and her friends that the main lead is behind the recent slew of killings and you wouldn't have to change much. Add a few dead bodies and voila. You can even make In Ho the gritty detective trying to blow the case wide open.
I've never been more disgusted with a main lead before. Seol was pretty frustrating too. I just wanted In Ho to find a whole better group of humans.
Whew i literally just finished this drama and it made me so mad and then looking up reviews where people defended or justified Yoo Jung got me even madder. Glad I got to vent.
(P.S Also was this university built on cursed ground how were so many awful people gathered in one place.) “
Hmmm, when will Jin Dong Ki's daughter appear again in the series?Maybe she will only appear when Jin Do Joon's…
I thought that granddaughter was the one who ordered the hit on Do Jun’s butler self in Turkey. Just me?
She met with the eldest grandson in ep 1 just before SJK died, and was all, ominously, I know what you’re doing with that slush fund brother. Too obvious suspect?
sjk should do an investigative drama. a horror, mystery, or comedy. this constant mafia/revenge sombre "i-lost-everything"…
More than that is the sense of omniscience I got with his Reborn Rich character which gave me a stark reminder of Vincenzo.
I get he’s a time-traveller who knew these people beforehand, but that coffee sipping, hanging out in an HQ, easily outsmarting some supposedly very shrewd, experienced and suspicious people….
Because it’s been 9 episodes, and we haven’t seen her since that small meeting scene in ep 1, between her and the crazy grandson where she appeared to be threatening his plans and then the ML got killed. I thought at that point that she was behind his murder but it’s like they’ve forgotten her character since
By the way, can we kindly change that profile picture already ? It’s eons old and does not in any way justify his vibe/charms and also for those who don’t know him well he’s kind of unrecognisable in that pic. He has so many legendary photoshoots to choose from, why this—
Gong Ji Hoon’s actor should do probably a straight up comedy once. (And now I’m imagining how he would have been if he’d joined Kwak Dong Yeon in Gaus… )
The FL not having equal character development or screentime does not actually make a work misogynistic automatically. Just like there are works that are centred on female characters, there are works centred on male characters. Not everything has to be 100% “equal” all of the time.
Some plots have one main character. Some have two. Some have 3 or 4 or an entire ensemble. Some have 1 Male Lead, 1 Female Lead. Some have 2 Male Leads (School 2013, Reborn Rich) . Some have 3 Female Leads (Little Women, 39, Search WWW)
This drama is obviously not a romcom. It’s an action fantasy/sci-fi, with the romance as a subplot. Therefore the writer is not actually obliged to give as much presence to the female lead. (Who as a comment above has stated, she is quite independent, self-reliant, does not even fall in the damsel in distress situation as much as most dramas but rather is the one saving the ML often, and she also has the most powerful game character).
But go ahead and sue the writer, judging her by one work simply because the focus is on the ML’s game journey (the game being the actual plot here) and the FL isn’t throwing knives and slashing swords (wherein she would end up being saved heroically by the ML going by typical dramas).
She was kind of his physical crutch, (and a literal one considering her presence itself protected him), something he could cling to as a source of hope and respite (and he already lead a pessimistic life before the game crashed into his life).
But the romance was underdeveloped, as was the FL’s character. She could have played a bigger role with her connection to the game, but it was never really fulfilled to its potential. I didn’t mind PSH in this, she was intriguing as Emma, but maybe a stronger actress could have also helped in the romance department.
I hope she comes out soon with an original work again. Her ideas are really out of the box and so very intriguing and relatable.
I remember her saying once that she struggled with endings and didn’t have them in mind when she first starts writing, so I hope she’ll find a way to reconcile that and polish up her execution. I’ve never had a problem following her logic but I can see why some audiences would be frustrated or lost.
But they deserve each other, how ever miserable they are together, it’s better than making an innocent suffer in a relationship with their twisted minds.
I’ve come across people who because they don’t think they can ship two actors in real life, they don’t like the drama or drama ship either, even if the chemistry, acting and storyline is all on fire.
(And this is usually because they are too obsessed with shipping them with some other costar in real life…)
Kpop or drama fandom, it’s equally delusional and toxic
Me: . . .
Nothing about the real life ages of the actors and it not matching up. Which isn’t a necessity or priority if they act their parts well and the audience likes them. Most of the cast’s ages won’t match with any single time period because the plot stretches over a lifetime of 20 plus years.
It doesn’t matter if you are Asian or Martian. The drama is adapted from a web novel which uses the Samsung group as a motif. According to which, the young age of the grandfather in the drama and Lee Sung Min’s visuals and styling among other things are a match.
PS. SJK’s character was said to be 20 (internationally that translates into 19 or even 18, Korean age is counted differently) in ep 3, when he started college (so a first year freshman) and then we’ve had a few weeks or months time skip until the IMF fallout and his eventual reveal to the grandpa. The other grandson, is the eldest grandson+eldest grandchild, son of the grandad’s first son. He was still a teenager when SJK first crash landed in the past as a child, so take from that what you will about his age
“ To me, for a while I genuinely thought the show was trying to illustrate that attraction is what separates creepy from romantic and good from bad. The way the stalker character manipulated people and things, particularly Min Soo the Seol impersonating girl, was so mirror image of the way Yoo Jung did things and manipulated things that I thought it had to be intentional to show how scummy and dangerous the main lead was.
>>!!People say he didn't get a redemption arc but I found him irredeemable by like episode 4 and no new scenes would change that tbh.!!<<
Look at the way he treated Seol when he didn't like her. In reality imagine how a breakup with a guy like that ends.
Getting In Ha to set a dangerous stalker on Seol, standing by as In Ho was beaten and severely injured, manipulating, using, encouraging and enabling In Ha, threatening the TAs life and livelihood to get his own way, spiralling the Seol impersonator Min Soo, forcing the neighbour from his home and the despicable way he treats both In Ha and In Ho and not even mentioning his extreme possessiveness. He did so much unforgivable shit but people justify it cos his dad was mean to him or that he’s misunderstood. >>!!Or people used that super toxic "but the abusive god complex sociopath needs Seol to change" defence.!!<<
You could turn this series into a psychological thriller where its very obvious to everyone but Seol and her friends that the main lead is behind the recent slew of killings and you wouldn't have to change much. Add a few dead bodies and voila. You can even make In Ho the gritty detective trying to blow the case wide open.
I've never been more disgusted with a main lead before. Seol was pretty frustrating too. I just wanted In Ho to find a whole better group of humans.
Whew i literally just finished this drama and it made me so mad and then looking up reviews where people defended or justified Yoo Jung got me even madder. Glad I got to vent.
(P.S Also was this university built on cursed ground how were so many awful people gathered in one place.) “
Samsung’s founder is from Gyeongsangnam-do which is close to Busan
She met with the eldest grandson in ep 1 just before SJK died, and was all, ominously, I know what you’re doing with that slush fund brother. Too obvious suspect?
I get he’s a time-traveller who knew these people beforehand, but that coffee sipping, hanging out in an HQ, easily outsmarting some supposedly very shrewd, experienced and suspicious people….