I loved him in Watcher! That was my first watch from him 3 years ago. He's really an excellent actor!
He is! That drama made me an instant fan. I actually didn’t like Romantic Doctor S1 much so I didn’t understand the raves about Kim Sabu, but now I can see why 🤭
That is so funny... the whole story is about Hyun Woo and nobody else. So if you have no interest in him, maybe…
Well I’m going to have to agree with the knetz on this one.
They should’ve done their title naming properly. 국밥집 첫째아들 (the eldest son of the soup restaurant) and not 재벌집 막내아들 (the youngest son of the chaebol house):
That is so funny... the whole story is about Hyun Woo and nobody else. So if you have no interest in him, maybe…
“whole story is about Hyun Woo and nobody else”
Invalid claim. The title of the drama is 재벌집 막내아들 or Reborn Rich in English. So the story is about Jin Do Jun, the youngest child of the chaebol family. Not Hyun Woo or his guilt. Which wasn’t even addressed before the last episode. And if the drama pulls a half-assed it-was-a-dream ending last minute (whilst deviating from the original source to do that) then its title does not make sense because nobody was reborn let alone reborn rich.
Do they have no one else to play the villains other than this dude acting as himself every time ? 🔫
Anyway not a fan of medical dramas, and dislike the push for seasonal kdramas. I’d prefer to see Han Seok Kyu in something like Watcher again because he seems to have good potential for mysterious, dubious and villainous.
AND the fact that the romance was clean. I just hate explicit scenes and think theyre so unnecessary. Thats why…
Drugs. Sex. Brutal violence. More Sex. Psychos as protagonists that are loved. ‘Tragic’ or open endings. Happy endings called cheesy and ridiculous. Some more drugs. A bit of Feminism. But the kind that actually insults women and does no good. A bit of woke. A bit of political propaganda. A bit of people going through endless pains to change their genders. Some more sex. A little more gore. A never-ending plot with no direction or destination. Sub par acting by season 3. Some millions thrown into CGI. A bit more violent sex. Eating each other’s face off literally being classified as a romantic kiss between lovers. There’s nothing tender or gentle about it that speaks love. Always feels like they are attacking each other violently in the name of passion. A bit more drugged psychos who care about no one and nothing. Values? Never heard of it. Morals? Self-justification. Family? Me, myself and I.
Is it trash ending because they give the villain the redemption arc?
Idk why that other dude is going off at you like you being dissatisfied with the ending is a personal insult to their can-do-no-wrong oppa. It’s not like Song Joong Ki wrote the script anyway.
The ending put a dampener on the entire plot and did not fit the narrative they build at all. For it to actually work, they needed a more character driven instead of a plot driven drama, letting us spend some quality time with the ML’s thoughts and inner struggles and a good amount of foreshadowing and an uncertainty of what’s real and what’s not.
This was taking a time travel happy ending web novel plot, changing it randomly on how it wraps up and failing to deliver the emotions actually needed for the altered version and making the viewer feel cheated. Maybe it’s not be the worst ending out there, and you can explain away the message it wants to deliver but it leaves plenty of plot holes and unfulfilled character journeys (as they weren’t given enough attention for it).
Never seen a drama derails this fast. Once the chase for the daughter was over the drama was dead. The reason…
It’s been a good few years since I watched this and it didn’t have the best production, but I think YSJ did alright for his first lead role, juggling more than one character and less than a year since his debut. From what I remember he was one of the better parts of the drama. That prosecutor lady was an annoyance and had an awkward lisp from awkward Botox while the Dad. just. kept. yelling. every 0.2 seconds.
Kdrama writers still struggle when it comes to sci-fi so we take what we can get.
Isn’t it just weight gain for the role/recent military life experience ?
I’m not sure but I don’t think they ever addressed it in particular. She just had antibodies in her blood that worked. She wasn’t the only one they found with antibodies but for the others it never reached their brain or something and just delayed the virus unlike her and they didn’t have time to find someone else like her again. I just inferred that maybe her history with being really ill and hospitalised as a kid with a full recovery later made her immune system stronger or just different than most people.
Found an interesting comment that I think fans of Human Nam Shin or anti fans of the Robot romance storyline might…
“if we take it from the creator Mother and Robot Shin’s perspective. She certainly wanted to make a safe and even cuddly toy, not a danger to humans — and Robot Shin wants that too. My reservation would be that Robot Shin is not entirely self-controlled; he can be weaponized (and almost became a “hit robot” in the hands of Real Shin; if that can happen, he is not really safe, though he saved the day on that occasion). His real handler could be the chaebol, if he has the robot’s entire brain bank in his keeping. But whether that is correct or not, the bigger point concerning the danger of Robot Shin is that he is so likable he is readily accepted by people — and even preferred over his face-sake by many.
Another thing I thought about, while considering that Robot Shin was the smiling salesman of the “smart city” was that robots are (to again use “Brave New World’s: definition of this term) a form of Soma for the people in this society. This makes him dangerous even if he is not physically a threat to humans. With such delightful toys, people are easily and deeply seduced (literally, in the case of the girlfriend — but arguably also in Mother’s case) — and thus do not engage in the human world in a healthy way, but instead learn only to be comforted by the machine (which — like smart phones — are marketed for profit by chaebols like the grandfather). The robot is a sort of drug that humans fall for and cannot live without, and it causes them to neglect human attachments and responsibilities.
Consider: When Mother was upset and could have attacked chaebol grandfather, she is quieted and comforted by toy boys that evolve into the fully developed (and irresistible) adult Robot Shin. He becomes her doll, and eventually she cannot destroy him even for her real son — and dies protecting the robot. The girlfriend (kick-boxer) must have her mechanized lover or she cannot cope with life. The young child with the heart condition is also comforted with a toy robot — offered by Robot Shin. (And the child has another toy — a second species of material Soma: the smart phone; but be careful, my child, and do not hold it too close to your heart — or it will be the end of you…). Message: robots and smart machines are ultimately bad for humans, or at least are designed to seduce them and addict them, so that they question not the provider (who profits greatly) and cannot live happily without these toys and life-aids, though reliance onthem is not healthy. (Robot Shin’s vacuum “pet” is also interesting — this too is Soma; it does not function for a human as a real pet — a living animal — would; living animals are comforters to humans on a deep level and so are used in nursing homes, hospitals, for therapy, etc. — but robots do not suffice in that way. So, craving one — because it is cute and cleaner, is the same as desiring a robot boyfriend or son; no mess and you only need to be sure it is powered up, but never have to really feed it or worry that it may die… because someone can always make another one exactly like it, or close enough — as they did with Robot Shin in the end.)
I think I still see this as subtle social criticism with a warning; but that is my interpretation and may not be the writers’. I will admit that.
Last thought: Why did Real Shin join in the end with his two betrayers (David and the assistant at work)? The answer for me lies in the parable of The Madman. (The king was thought to be mad, until he drunk from the common well that all his subjects used and which had made them mad; then the king [Real Shin] became “sane”… The Madman is by Kahlil Gibran.) And this ending for Real Shin, along with the girlfriend getting her Robot lover again (her Soma boy), is the most chilling part of this cautionary tale, with the possible exception of Mother dying for Robot Shin. It is the dystopia triumphant, as the one human objector has become one of the leaders of this frightful new world. (Very different from the end of Norman Jewison’s “Rollerball” 1975!)
wtf I love school uniforms. What is wrong with those protesting boys ?
Rather than trying to force schools to drop uniforms because of whatever (petty reason) made them unhappy. I think it more productive to have students be able to vote (under guidelines) on what their uniform should look like.
There’s a lot of reasons for why uniforms are actually really important but especially in a school where children are supposed to be on equal ground regardless of their backgrounds, skills or personalities. But I won’t go into that here.
Plus uniforms have a way of looking posh. It has way of cleaning you up and giving you a neat look that doesn’t compare to whatever muddy pair of jeans and sweater you managed to dig from your closet for the day (a headache inducing task in of itself).
I loved the uniforms the comic book world had in Extraordinary You and generally enjoy most uniforms in Kdrama schools. I also like the ones from the 70’s era in Kdramas. But my favourites are the ones I come across in my own neighbourhood. There’s a few designs that made me consider enrolling into school all over again just to wear them.
asdfjjsgskkk I leave for one day and ring?? Things have progressed to a ring? I don’t mind a slight romance…
Okay good to hear
I’m aware of the looks Do Jin’s being throwing at Seol or when he walks in on her and Ho Gae together. But that’s about as far as I hope the love triangle goes. So many shows get ruined by writers stringing along their viewers by extending love triangles (or squares or trains) way past their expiry dates.
I’d like to be able to pretend that Do Jin’s feelings are on the level of very close friendship and less romantic/marriage/kids. That she’s simply an important comrade to him that he can’t afford to lose or to watch get hurt by someone not good enough for her. This would allow him to move on to another love interest after he accepts the lead’s romance instead of being dragged into pathetically nursing an unrequited love till the last leg of the drama by the writer.
The biggest charm of kdramas, even before the appeal of cultural and content differences, has always been full complete stories being released in one go. Like a movie, but a much longer format on TV and very unlike procedural drama series.
It’s both good for the audience and for the talent/production.
People upset with this obnoxious trend and aware that companies like Netflix are doing this to grab onto your last penny, should really not being giving them the cash to help destroy what they like.
I may check that out later. I’ve been avoiding that drama for the longest time
They should’ve done their title naming properly. 국밥집 첫째아들 (the eldest son of the soup restaurant) and not 재벌집 막내아들 (the youngest son of the chaebol house):
https://n.news.naver.com/article/comment/009/0005065502
some of these comments are hilarious
Inspired by real life events + Talibani terrorists + Crazy Christian missionaries + poor agents sent on a rescue mission ❤️🔥
The other films sound good too
Invalid claim. The title of the drama is 재벌집 막내아들 or Reborn Rich in English. So the story is about Jin Do Jun, the youngest child of the chaebol family. Not Hyun Woo or his guilt. Which wasn’t even addressed before the last episode. And if the drama pulls a half-assed it-was-a-dream ending last minute (whilst deviating from the original source to do that) then its title does not make sense because nobody was reborn let alone reborn rich.
Anyway not a fan of medical dramas, and dislike the push for seasonal kdramas. I’d prefer to see Han Seok Kyu in something like Watcher again because he seems to have good potential for mysterious, dubious and villainous.
That’s about the sum of American/Western media.
Unfortunately that has penetrated into Kdramas.
The ending put a dampener on the entire plot and did not fit the narrative they build at all. For it to actually work, they needed a more character driven instead of a plot driven drama, letting us spend some quality time with the ML’s thoughts and inner struggles and a good amount of foreshadowing and an uncertainty of what’s real and what’s not.
This was taking a time travel happy ending web novel plot, changing it randomly on how it wraps up and failing to deliver the emotions actually needed for the altered version and making the viewer feel cheated. Maybe it’s not be the worst ending out there, and you can explain away the message it wants to deliver but it leaves plenty of plot holes and unfulfilled character journeys (as they weren’t given enough attention for it).
Kdrama writers still struggle when it comes to sci-fi so we take what we can get.
Another thing I thought about, while considering that Robot Shin was the smiling salesman of the “smart city” was that robots are (to again use “Brave New World’s: definition of this term) a form of Soma for the people in this society. This makes him dangerous even if he is not physically a threat to humans. With such delightful toys, people are easily and deeply seduced (literally, in the case of the girlfriend — but arguably also in Mother’s case) — and thus do not engage in the human world in a healthy way, but instead learn only to be comforted by the machine (which — like smart phones — are marketed for profit by chaebols like the grandfather). The robot is a sort of drug that humans fall for and cannot live without, and it causes them to neglect human attachments and responsibilities.
Consider: When Mother was upset and could have attacked chaebol grandfather, she is quieted and comforted by toy boys that evolve into the fully developed (and irresistible) adult Robot Shin. He becomes her doll, and eventually she cannot destroy him even for her real son — and dies protecting the robot. The girlfriend (kick-boxer) must have her mechanized lover or she cannot cope with life. The young child with the heart condition is also comforted with a toy robot — offered by Robot Shin. (And the child has another toy — a second species of material Soma: the smart phone; but be careful, my child, and do not hold it too close to your heart — or it will be the end of you…). Message: robots and smart machines are ultimately bad for humans, or at least are designed to seduce them and addict them, so that they question not the provider (who profits greatly) and cannot live happily without these toys and life-aids, though reliance onthem is not healthy. (Robot Shin’s vacuum “pet” is also interesting — this too is Soma; it does not function for a human as a real pet — a living animal — would; living animals are comforters to humans on a deep level and so are used in nursing homes, hospitals, for therapy, etc. — but robots do not suffice in that way. So, craving one — because it is cute and cleaner, is the same as desiring a robot boyfriend or son; no mess and you only need to be sure it is powered up, but never have to really feed it or worry that it may die… because someone can always make another one exactly like it, or close enough — as they did with Robot Shin in the end.)
I think I still see this as subtle social criticism with a warning; but that is my interpretation and may not be the writers’. I will admit that.
Last thought: Why did Real Shin join in the end with his two betrayers (David and the assistant at work)? The answer for me lies in the parable of The Madman. (The king was thought to be mad, until he drunk from the common well that all his subjects used and which had made them mad; then the king [Real Shin] became “sane”… The Madman is by Kahlil Gibran.) And this ending for Real Shin, along with the girlfriend getting her Robot lover again (her Soma boy), is the most chilling part of this cautionary tale, with the possible exception of Mother dying for Robot Shin. It is the dystopia triumphant, as the one human objector has become one of the leaders of this frightful new world. (Very different from the end of Norman Jewison’s “Rollerball” 1975!)
DTF - https://thefangirlverdict.com/2018/08/18/review-are-you-human-too/#comment-56383
Rather than trying to force schools to drop uniforms because of whatever (petty reason) made them unhappy. I think it more productive to have students be able to vote (under guidelines) on what their uniform should look like.
There’s a lot of reasons for why uniforms are actually really important but especially in a school where children are supposed to be on equal ground regardless of their backgrounds, skills or personalities. But I won’t go into that here.
Plus uniforms have a way of looking posh. It has way of cleaning you up and giving you a neat look that doesn’t compare to whatever muddy pair of jeans and sweater you managed to dig from your closet for the day (a headache inducing task in of itself).
I loved the uniforms the comic book world had in Extraordinary You and generally enjoy most uniforms in Kdrama schools. I also like the ones from the 70’s era in Kdramas. But my favourites are the ones I come across in my own neighbourhood. There’s a few designs that made me consider enrolling into school all over again just to wear them.
I’m aware of the looks Do Jin’s being throwing at Seol or when he walks in on her and Ho Gae together. But that’s about as far as I hope the love triangle goes. So many shows get ruined by writers stringing along their viewers by extending love triangles (or squares or trains) way past their expiry dates.
I’d like to be able to pretend that Do Jin’s feelings are on the level of very close friendship and less romantic/marriage/kids. That she’s simply an important comrade to him that he can’t afford to lose or to watch get hurt by someone not good enough for her. This would allow him to move on to another love interest after he accepts the lead’s romance instead of being dragged into pathetically nursing an unrequited love till the last leg of the drama by the writer.
I don’t mind a slight romance but please no love triangle melodrama
Their bickering tag team and friendship is what makes this drama fun
The biggest charm of kdramas, even before the appeal of cultural and content differences, has always been full complete stories being released in one go. Like a movie, but a much longer format on TV and very unlike procedural drama series.
It’s both good for the audience and for the talent/production.
People upset with this obnoxious trend and aware that companies like Netflix are doing this to grab onto your last penny, should really not being giving them the cash to help destroy what they like.