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:o :o :o that's terrible - thank you for answering. That all sounds ridiculous, I hope she is staying strong through that.

Must be because she's so successful at a young age.

Hi all, I am new to MDL, I'm an international fan of Lusi and I was first introduced to her in TLB. Have LOVED her since then and she is my favourite actress... period lol. But as an international fan I hear she gets a lot of hate, especially in China, but I don't get why, can someone pls explain to me?

<3 <3 <3 thank you for LLTG!!!!

100%😭

Yeah he is always a step behind when it comes to her :'( - I mean I ship LBY and SS but still I feel for him haha

Just appreciating that the directing of this drama is of course fantastic, and so is the cinematography, lighting and sound editing <3

The twitter space is saying its a cut scene from the Lou Yao wedding day, (based on costumes 😭) this is where he may have been trying to coax her to go.

Love Director Fei <3

Thank you :) and same here, my understanding of YS has now expanded!! He did mention on the episode where Lou Yao get's married (this was when he was arguing with LBY) that his teacher has sent in a recommendation for him to have an official position. So he should be arriving at the Palace soon to advice the Emperor I think.

That conversation also gave me chills when LBY straight up asked him, do you have improper thoughts about my fiance. Such a ballsy question lol

No problem and hugs!!!! Hope we can continue to chase good dramas together!

yes thank you all so much <3, I am so appreciative of this additional context and this community working together to complete the picture for each other.

Agreed, love this!

Sorry yes, I don't understand Chinese and I interpreted it based on the WeTV English subtitles. Seeing the discrepancy between VIKI and WeTV translations, and seeing Alysha Johnson and Oumaima B's comments as well above in addition to yours, I definitely misunderstood.

Blew my mind when I realized the multiple interpretations and now my mind is spinning trying to process all the new amazing inputs <3

I LOVE THIS, such a good analysis.

That blew my mind🤯 - GOOD CATCH!

omg so interesting - GOOD CATCH!!!!!! and no kidding, we really do need to learn😭

Yes this scene has always confused me actually, every time I watch it I have to keep pausing because the translation is phrased a bit awkwardly. My take on it was:

YS: "if you are willing to deliver this message for me, I will repay you a favour as repayment in the future"
SS: "any favour?"
YS: "Apart from being unfilial, rebelling, treachery, abandonment, and forbidding from asking for your hand in marriage" (i think thats an awkward way of translating, apart from asking for your hand in marriage)
SS: (then SS is shocked) "when have I ever asked you to marry me, when did I say I ever want to marry you?"

and then he further goaded her by saying its appalling to me that you've never thought of marrying me, isn't that why you are stringing me along and isn't it your strategy to cling on to me.

But the other take on it also makes sense ..... omg🤯

So then is he saying, I will do anything except not asking you to marry me, and then she's shocked why he would do that. And he's saying he interprets her lack of action as her clinging on to him, and he's also interested? .... but then she cuts her ties clean with him haha by telling her aunt immediately omg😂

Yes its so nice to have a community to talk about these things with <3. and of course!

Ep 40 - around 31 mins in (this is when they officially meet - after the knife scene)

EP 42 - right at the beginning is when the MFL asks him to fight for her sister, and then around 21 mins in has a few side glances too LOL

In reality these scenes are very minor, but they have impact.

Agreed, his character has a lot of growing up to do!

p.s its so funny and sad that she didn't even stick around to see what that ball he threw at her was supposed to mean. Im still curious what he was going to say LOL

Trying to untangle my thoughts around Yuan Shen as I am rewatching the episodes. Something that was always confusing to me was why SS took such an instant dislike to YS. I was thinking it could be because during the lantern festival while everyone was impressed by his intellect, she was simultaneously thinking it was sad that he's bored and does this every year, that he must have a lot of free time (that in her pragmatic way can be devoted to better things -> he's a pleasure seeking individual), and that he is attention seeking. She is confused when he comes to see her and then her prickly nature kind of compounds on itself as they keep verbally sparring. He really does hit the nail on the coffin when he tells her he would repay her the favour as long as it doesn't involve marrying her lol (of course anyone would be super offended to hear that).

YS seems like a typical type A person. He only gets attention from his parents and teachers when he is intelligent so that's a huge part of his identity. He is desperate for love also. SS initially treats him and gives him the cold shoulder like his mother (I just realized). She ignores him outright and doesn't want to give him any time or attention. Which is unusual compared to all the other girls that chase him. I think since he can't be angry at his mom, some of that resentment may have passed to SS? Also he pursues her because he thinks she is cultured and intelligent, but realizes that while she is smart she is also lacking in education in a lot of areas to make a suitable spouse for him (and a wife like that wouldn't get him the validation he is seeking from his elders).

But as he gets increasingly attracted to her and interested in her, he doesn't have the maturity to handle it so he lashes out. By calling her not attractive, not a good wife candidate, not smart ... and the list goes on. I think he doesn't genuinely think she is sly and scheming but he just can't help but be bitter and jealous (super jealous - lol)

I dunno that's my take so far, but I know we haven't gotten much insight into YS yet.