Four years later and I still think this drama has Chae Soo Bin and Jung Hae In's best performances.
if you happen to remember, did cutting the run time by four episodes while it was running affect the end of the piece for you? did it shift in mood drastically?
just learning that it was cut short while on air. if someone that watched it then comes across my comment, do you think that impacted the quality of the end of the story? it just feels like at the beginning everything is so well thought out and symbolic.
Except he was acquitted, that means legally tried and whether true or not was found not guilty except for the court of cancel culture in net land. Again, doesn’t mean it’s not true, but in the eyes of the law, he can live his life as he pleases and doesn’t need to have this in his bio.
Okay, I got tired of reading so many conflicting stories of this case with LJW here and all over soc med, so I…
thanks so much for this homework! very good.
this is a bit tangential, since I don’t know clear facts in this situation, but women are often coerced into sex in a way that is considered socially acceptable. there’s something that isn’t spoken about often, but that I see all the time. at times, her no isn’t clear because she goes into a freeze/muted place in her body (think animal freezing before being killed, as an example). if a man is sensitive ( not under the influence of alcohol, to begin), he can see that she’s not being really responsive, as opposed to continuing with his urges. however, a clueless, dissociated man, or one under the influence may be numb to her feelings, go along as usual and completely miss that he violated her. 😰 she may then respond in several ways to deal with the severe shame, disgust and feeling of violation. she may “fawn”, which is another survival response like freeze, appeasing him, pretending it was mutual, engaging in friendly behavior (morning after friendly texts). if he then rejects her, or the relationship doesn’t continue, her feeling of shame will grow, she could get angry, and do all kinds of things as a result of this feeling in her that she would like to get rid of... while some people escape the situation and never want to speak about it publicly, others may then want to lash out and try to get justice legally. this is super basic fight, flight, freeze, fawn, mammalian survival response in the body, but overlayed with cultural norms, and laws it gets super murky. underneath, there’s trauma from the unresolved survival stress. in an ideal world, which we are not in, both people would need to be supported and go through a restorative process. this doesn’t exist in many places, outside of really well off, more trauma informed sub cultures. at the end, only gray area exists, and often, it’s the woman that carries the shame for a situation that isn’t only hers to carry. 😞
Okay, I got tired of reading so many conflicting stories of this case with LJW here and all over soc med, so I…
thanks so much for this homework! very good.
this is a bit tangential, since I don’t know clear facts in this situation, but women are often coerced into sex in a way that is considered socially acceptable. there’s something that isn’t spoken about often, but that I see all the time. at times, her no isn’t clear because she goes into a freeze/muted place in her body (think animal freezing before being killed, as an example). if a man is sensitive ( not under the influence of alcohol, to begin), he can see that she’s not being really responsive, as opposed to continuing with his urges. however, a clueless, dissociated man, or one under the influence may be numb to her feelings, go along as usual and completely miss that he violated her. 😰 she may then respond in several ways to deal with the severe shame, disgust and feeling of violation. she may “fawn”, which is another survival response like freeze, appeasing him, pretending it was mutual, engaging in friendly behavior (morning after friendly texts). if he then rejects her, or the relationship doesn’t continue, her feeling of shame will grow, she could get angry, and do all kinds of things as a result of this feeling in her that she would like to get rid of... while some people escape the situation and never want to speak about it publicly, others may then want to lash out and try to get justice legally. this is super basic fight, flight, freeze, fawn, mammalian survival response in the body, but overlayed with cultural norms, and laws it gets super murky. underneath, there’s trauma from the unresolved survival stress. in an ideal world, which we are not in, both people would need to be supported and go through a restorative process. this doesn’t exist in many places, outside of really well off, more trauma informed sub cultures. at the end, only gray area exists, and often, it’s the woman that carries the shame for a situation that isn’t only hers to carry. 😞
I don't care who is producing it or which studio or whatever. A kdrama is a Korean drama...as in Korean the language,…
fair enough! :) I put it here because I was curious about other thoughts. yours makes sense as well, if the production/rights are not what make it Korean, but rather the language, actors and culture…
hey! thanks :). I just meant that some people may not want to be spoiled by knowing it’s a happy ending and should have a spoiler. although, to me it always seemed like it would be…. 🩷
this is a bit tangential, since I don’t know clear facts in this situation, but women are often coerced into sex in a way that is considered socially acceptable. there’s something that isn’t spoken about often, but that I see all the time. at times, her no isn’t clear because she goes into a freeze/muted place in her body (think animal freezing before being killed, as an example). if a man is sensitive ( not under the influence of alcohol, to begin), he can see that she’s not being really responsive, as opposed to continuing with his urges. however, a clueless, dissociated man, or one under the influence may be numb to her feelings, go along as usual and completely miss that he violated her. 😰 she may then respond in several ways to deal with the severe shame, disgust and feeling of violation. she may “fawn”, which is another survival response like freeze, appeasing him, pretending it was mutual, engaging in friendly behavior (morning after friendly texts). if he then rejects her, or the relationship doesn’t continue, her feeling of shame will grow, she could get angry, and do all kinds of things as a result of this feeling in her that she would like to get rid of... while some people escape the situation and never want to speak about it publicly, others may then want to lash out and try to get justice legally. this is super basic fight, flight, freeze, fawn, mammalian survival response in the body, but overlayed with cultural norms, and laws it gets super murky. underneath, there’s trauma from the unresolved survival stress. in an ideal world, which we are not in, both people would need to be supported and go through a restorative process. this doesn’t exist in many places, outside of really well off, more trauma informed sub cultures. at the end, only gray area exists, and often, it’s the woman that carries the shame for a situation that isn’t only hers to carry. 😞
this is a bit tangential, since I don’t know clear facts in this situation, but women are often coerced into sex in a way that is considered socially acceptable. there’s something that isn’t spoken about often, but that I see all the time. at times, her no isn’t clear because she goes into a freeze/muted place in her body (think animal freezing before being killed, as an example). if a man is sensitive ( not under the influence of alcohol, to begin), he can see that she’s not being really responsive, as opposed to continuing with his urges. however, a clueless, dissociated man, or one under the influence may be numb to her feelings, go along as usual and completely miss that he violated her. 😰 she may then respond in several ways to deal with the severe shame, disgust and feeling of violation. she may “fawn”, which is another survival response like freeze, appeasing him, pretending it was mutual, engaging in friendly behavior (morning after friendly texts). if he then rejects her, or the relationship doesn’t continue, her feeling of shame will grow, she could get angry, and do all kinds of things as a result of this feeling in her that she would like to get rid of... while some people escape the situation and never want to speak about it publicly, others may then want to lash out and try to get justice legally. this is super basic fight, flight, freeze, fawn, mammalian survival response in the body, but overlayed with cultural norms, and laws it gets super murky. underneath, there’s trauma from the unresolved survival stress. in an ideal world, which we are not in, both people would need to be supported and go through a restorative process. this doesn’t exist in many places, outside of really well off, more trauma informed sub cultures. at the end, only gray area exists, and often, it’s the woman that carries the shame for a situation that isn’t only hers to carry. 😞