Aya

They weren't, even until the final movie. I think Kavin-Kaning could happen tho, cuz in HanaDan Soujiro-Yuuki progress is really really slow compared to Kavin-Kaning and Yuuki's obsession to Soujiro was made into running gag in HanaDan 😂

Jdrama tend to have lower ratings on MDL that just how it is, it's biassed. People on MDL don't like Jdrama idk why ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yes, it's more impactful in F4 Thailand. Tbh ep 1 of F4T is better than HYD, and that's coming from huge fan of HYD. It just the way F4T progressing isn't exactly to my liking, it's not that it's bad, I just prefer HYD. HYD yes, it is over the top with ridiculous story but it works. Being more grounded isn't always good, and being more over the top isn't always bad. It depends on the story and what it want to be and convey. I also understand that HYD maybe not for everyone, it is very japanase. But I grew up consuming japanase entertainment, so it's not hard for me to enjoy and forgive certain things in HYD.

Wow, I just noticed what's so interesting. Cuz I was born in Asia and also grew up consuming japanase entertaiment, brother/sister complex doesn't really bother me anymore (except if it's really fullblown incest in romantic setting).

And also I noticed that at least where I live, it's not weird or negative at all to be attracted to someone that has many similarity to your parents/older sibling figure. We seek good traits that our parents/older sibling figure have. We seek people to treat and love us as good as our parents/older sibling figure did. So saying "I want to date someone like my brother/sister" isn't weird at all, especially if you're super close.

Oh... Now I kinda want to read that threads... Do you know where to find them?

Hmm imo, on contrary BOF isn't really through FL perspective tho. I think the one that really tells FL story is the japanase one and I think it did great. I think the reason why BOF isn't that great is cuz it has messy plot, illogical character, and not so great acting... BOF has pretty cast, pretty settings, catchy ost, wonderful cinematography (at that time), entertaining enough and that's it.....

Same, she so indecisive and that hurts alot of people

Watch this for Matsujun, but the on a whole is also quite well done. Also Jun looks so handsome here hehe. 8/10

It is not for "woke" people cuz I think they'll nitpicking all the wrong weird views in this drama and missing the point of the whole story LOL. It is Jdrama, moreover shoujo roamance Jdrama made in 2000s Japan. I repeat, JAPAN. Japan is pretty much very sexist and mysogonistic, yes even until now.

Despite the few problematic things here and there, imo beside entertaining it also has wonderful message too. It tells the story about what on the inside is more important than outside, subtances is more important than beauty. Hence the title "Hana Yori Dango" it's a pun from japanase idiom "Dumpling over Flowers" that means "Substance over aesthetic". And besides that it also tells the story of being true and honest to yourself, doing what you believe is right.

But yeah, I think to really appreciate and like Hana Yori Dango you need to also be familiar with jdrama, shoujo tropes, and japanese culture in general

Yes the manga is very popular, in Japan it still holds the number 1 most popular shoujo (genre that specifies market to young girls) manga.

I would seriously recomend the 2005 version, I really love it and for me it's still the best version (yes now F4T had reach ep 3 I'm pretty sure it won't beat HYD 2005 for me). Even up to ep 3, F4 Thai follow mostly HYD 2005 version scene by scene, so the kick scene is similar here. If you like F4T and not a fan BOF korean (I also don't like this version LOL), you might want to try Hana Yori Dango 2005. Plus HYD 2005 has the best acting and chemistry in all version.

I agree with Nani, he has the potential to be scene-stealer but unfortunately his acting is showing how "green" he is

The first adaptation actually Hana Yori Dango 1995 movie and then a Hana Yori Dango anime 1997. But the 1995 movie didn't have any conclusion yet cuz the manga hasn't finish yet at that time. Meteor Garden 2001 taiwan was the first TV drama adaptation and it was a phenomenon back then, it was HUGE. MG 2001 also has original ending cuz the manga also hasn't finished yet at that time.

In 2005, TBS (japanese TV station) had no drama for winter time slot, so they made Hana Yori Dango TV drama. MG 2001 also huge in Japan, so actually they don't expect HYD 2005 to be HUGELY popular in Japan. But cuz it was japanese drama and the manga is japanase, they follow the story and characterization more from the manga (not following MG 2001). In fact, MatsuJun the actor who played the male lead role never watch MG 2001 before and based his role solely on the manga (yes he read all 37 volumes of Hana Yori Dango manga). So you can say the japanese drama is the most faithfull one to the manga.

Most adaptation follow MG 2001 more, cuz it is the most popular one accross Asia. HYD 2005 is huge too, but MG 2001 is bigger outside of Japan (in Japan HYD 2005 is bigger). I think the one that has the most different from the source is the BOF korean version... MG 2001 is actually quite faithfull with some tweaks here and there (especially cuz the source hasn't finish yet), but for the rest... yeah adaptation from adaptation and adaptation LOL something is loss...

Hmm.. what do you think at what point Thyme thought he is going too far? Is it in ep 1 when Gorya almost get assault?

F4 Thailand adapt more closely to the manga and Hana Yori Dango 2005 drama that's one of the reason why it's different from Meteor Garden china version and Boys Over Flowers kr version. I think the chinese and korean one follow the story of Meteor Garden 2001 taiwanese drama? But yeah the 1st ep is really solid

Oh yes, ofcourse! but why he falls for her in the first place? Why is he attracted to her?

Oh I see! That's makes so much sense. Until now, I thought he heads over heels cuz he thought Gorya likes him

Domyoji indeed has weird sister-complex LOL. But he doesn’t fall in love just because Makino the same as his sister. Makino reminded him of his sister in the way his sister treats him as he is, beyond all façade he was putting up and the glitz of Domyoji’s name. In fact he doesn't just love him when she beats her up, he was only intrigued. Furthermore when he tried to bribe her with make over and money, she refuses and get mad. He doesn’t know why she doesn’t bow down to him like others. He was even more intrigued. I think he isn’t completely fallen in love with Makino until they stuck at the elevator. Oh as to why he is asking for a date, because he took his sister advice to look in other perspective, in short he is stupid like that.

I think you have to also understand how different the world where Domyoji and Makino lives in, all the people putting F4 on highest pedestal just because they are handsome and filthy rich. Their world is wacky and ridiculous, but it helps to tell us Domyoji-Makino love story. This world so faraway from the world we lives, F4 Thailand are much more closer to us. No one beside F4, his sister, and Makino can see Domyoji past all of that façade of handsome and wealth.

And also Domyoji is crazy LOL. Out of all Domyoji/Junpyo/Daomingse/Thyme itteration, I think he is the most derranged one. He is like an animal, in which he is pure in his conviction. Because of his upbringing and lack of development, he has clarity of conviction and a child-likeness. He doesn't waver or question himself. He does things based on his instinct. His instinct tells him Makino is the one, he doesn't understand why but he just know. He absurdly believe if he love her, she will love him back.

That's all for my TED talks 😂 in opposite, I haven't found why Thyme so head over heels to Gorya... Can you please explain why? 😊

Well that just my take on it, I only have watched the Japanese (which I loved), the Korean, and now the Thai version. If you watched first 2 ep of Japanese version, Domyoji indeed was horrible and inhuman, but from ep 3 till the end we see different side of him and he slowly grew up, revealing his true good nature. At first I thought Thyme resemblance Domyoji more cuz he was almost as horrible in ep 1 but the difference is even tho on the inside he is good, the environment around him are the things that pressured him to be horrible. Thyme at least still acknowledge this, whereas Domyoji did not realize he was horrible. Thyme know he is somewhat wrong, but he is pressured and thought he is stuck, can’t be changed. Gorya became the voice of change in him. For Domyoji he never knew, he didn’t know what he did was bad and worse people around Domyoji put him on highest pedestal, let him get away with everything, no one ever see Domyoji for who he is, they only see him as Domyoji heirs. Makino see him for who Domyoji is and give him no one dared to, which is self-awareness.

And that’s where Thyme start to resemble Gu Junpyo. Even tho Gu Junpyo are the same as Domyoji is which he didn’t know (well but I think he at least know a bit, not completely clueless as Domyoji), he also change because of Jandii. Junpyo learns the world where Jandii lives and change. I think Thyme is a mixture of both Domyoji and Gu Junpyo. The way Thyme brought up and environment makes him horrible, like Domyoji, but Thyme change because of influence of Gorya, like Gu Junpyo.

Well this is long, thank you for reading my TED talks 😂

Yes, but now I think about it, Domyoji in jp version are really differenf from other version. He is the one who really put on a mask under his true self, a lonely, deeply scared kid who wants to be loved for who he is (not his Domyoji wealth and good looks) but had no idea why he can't be loved. He never actually really change as a person, he just brings out his good true nature self. Whereas for Thyme I can start to see his resemblances to Gu Junpyo in korean version. He changed to be a better person because of Gorya. He takes concious action to changes things cuz before he thought he can't change.

No. F4 Thai are right to not include that.