They can keep it to themselves and not post it online, that's what
There is no such thing as never make assumptions. Everything, every law, every theory, every regulation depends on many many assumptions. In time they do fail but that's just a natural evolutionary process. We cannot let go of taking those steps just because we don't know all the possible cases.
Same with speculations, some will be on the mark, some will not be on the mark but all of them will promote discussion on the problems of society or at least the ones perceived by the society as problems. All in all its beneficial regardless of the original conjecture being true or not.
What nonsense is this ? She says she doesn’t have to do anything with his brother and yet spends most of the…
The FL was made a prime example of how someone's relationship has numerous issues and hurdles that they have to cross through. Especially if the other party much more mature and much ahead of you in both life and career.
It was perfectly normal for the brother to manipulate her that way as he was from an environment which readies him for such games and in fact is a crucial skill for his future endeavours.
She getting manipulated and not understanding what's wrong shown the lack of experience and short sightedness of her age.
Though I do see this scenario as being a red flag for the ML and him still getting her was questionable at best.
I love kdramas and American dramas, but let's not rule out that in real life my K bro's and sis are doing the…
You don't need to reply. Just clearing my thoughts. Here we have an audience after all.
We are indeed in agreement about cussing and the show's narrative.
About mature themes; it encompasses everything that needs a mature mind to understand and manage, it does not mean the material in itself oozes maturity. As even a bully scalding someone isn't a mature decision but the scene can only be handled by a mature mind.
Your over-reaction on perhaps only 2-3 minutes of inconsequential sexual gratuitousness in a 16 hour long series, and also relating it with something so degraded as porn, irked me.
You understand that nuances of emotion are not present in porn, in comparison to a well choreographed romance sequence with your favourite actors. But then again you generalize it as watching porn.
There are myriad reasons that productions may have had to make it work without it, not necessarily that the plot doesn't need it. I will not talk about what could be as that's of weak premise.
Any such mature theme for me presents a chance that the team may have taken risks and employed artistic adventurism to present a unique experience.
This was a good show. There wasn't much thrill or mystery involved because of the way the FL handled everything. Actually I was put in a delusion of grandeur about it by the comments here. Suffice to say it didn't live up to those standards.
It is an odd show, I mean the depth it tries to go to and the darkness it indulges in, doesn't really reach the levels it requires. I always felt like something was missing. Perhaps that's where Korean censorship limits it. It did maintain a stable level of what you say interest for me which was on the high side but not so much that I would be glued to the screen.
The FL, the star of the show's personality due to her past trauma is the magnetic force that takes this drama to its climax. Which again is not something high on the spectrum as climaxes go. Simply speaking throughout there is this morbid stillness which continues till the end of the main arc.
The fabulous support as well as the villain gang is just phenomenal. They are not your typical 1D villains but people who have character, a life and goals. Each one has a story to tell and grow on.
The show is more about emotion IMO and not the actual revenge plot that it appears to depict. There is also a mature romance with all its subtleties and tension.
I love kdramas and American dramas, but let's not rule out that in real life my K bro's and sis are doing the…
This show though certainly did not need them and I also questioned the need as well, suffice to say they were not shot with the same care as the rest. IMO they were shoe horned in it, I assume for some vested interest that wants the public to slowly accept it.
These can be meaningful for a story, both sex to depict deeper feelings / personality traits or just plain old commitment and the cuss words to depict the overall environment. And no you cannot just walk down the street or watch porn to experience the same, they are worlds apart.
Mature themes affords the writers much leeway in freedoms they can take to faithfully depict the story. That's exactly why this show has the depth it has, though still lacking very much in comparison to western shows which can do much darker.
It's an angsty rollercoaster. There will be a lot going on in the immortal arc. You will see the culmination of…
For me too, it doesn't have to be a happy ending but it has to be a conclusive end. This future possibilities, I tend to overthink and spend days on end, fantasizing. Time that I can't afford to spend on such.
Fortunately, I usually have a trove of dramas lined up, and this time around I have The Glory to sate my thirst. Though I will still go through withdrawal from this drama, it was just that good and I left it at a stage that really would have had a saucy romance starting. Me being a sucker for romance doesn't help...
It's an angsty rollercoaster. There will be a lot going on in the immortal arc. You will see the culmination of…
They are my true to life feelings. I had an inkling that things would not end well especially when Susu tried to cling with the ML at E18. So I came here to find out, much to my dismay that I have wasted 18 hours of my life.
I do not watch open ended dramas. I usually scour the comment section for specific keywords that I dread before trying any C or K drama. I like stories that are complete and end with a wholesome end. Having a novel doesn't matter, it may not have a translation or easy access.
It's an angsty rollercoaster. There will be a lot going on in the immortal arc. You will see the culmination of…
Is it really an open ending?!
Dang! I have not made a mistake like this in so long... The time I skip reading comments, I find myself in an addicting, nerve wracking but ultimately inconclusive waste of time!
Bai Lu, ah, only you can make me make such a mistake...
I'm so confused as to why the overall ratings are very meh but the reviews are mostly positives and full of praises
Ratings are from diverse groups of people while reviews rarely ever feature balanced participation from these groups.
Few people tend to write them, mostly those with strong feelings about the drama, largely positive ones and few bad or balanced ones as that needs a special kind of conviction to go through with.
That's exactly why even in retail, you may sell hundreds before you score one review... Believe me unless there is an incentive most people don't like to spend time on writing reviews. Especially when others can comment or react on your review. Giving a rating is easy and anonymous.
Also ratings can sway by a bad ending or an ending with not much exposition or out of the world changes or even actor scandals...
Reviewers tend to hold the whole drama into perspective could be good or bad depending on your tastes. Like I tend to skip dramas with open/tragic/sudden endings or if romance started very late, regardless of how good the drama was overall.
A typical B-grade fair. You can't judge this drama like you do most of the titles here.
The only good actor is the ML, all else are just bad or so so. Villains are boring and frustratingly bad.
The criticisms about the FL are correct, she is obnoxious and self-destroying character. The age gap doesn't help either, she is too old for the role especially when they portray them in their younger days, its totally off.
The plots are abysmal and predictable to the extreme. In many such, the villain reveals itself early on and there is no suspense or thrill left when you can easily spot him among the crowds.
The world is even worse as the production prioritizes the glam over substance and plot appropriate setting. Like the FL wearing heals on police duty, running and chasing criminals throws this drama into absolute clown land. Then there is the police station which looks even more spacious than a multinational company's office. Even CIA, and NSA won't have such open wide spaces in their offices without purpose.
The production quality is cheap, there are very few locations, some I suspect are abandoned, and they even use CGI when travelling... All hallmarks of a budget constricted project are present.
The romance happens in an instant, I can't even justify it with their past. Yes, there is no courtship, except for some teasing and Boom they get together one sunny day. I was like how the hell did she not slap him across the face instead of turned her head in embarrassment...
The arc forcing the breakup and fulfilling the "Begin Again" prophecy is so bogus, rushed and unrealistic that even if I characterize the villain as a bona-fide psychopath, it still doesn't fit in... Literally I had the word psycho repeating in my mind whenever he started his tirade. The leads should have told this to his face, rather the outcome went exactly as he wanted with butter smooth efficiency.
Even the subplot of ML's education is just so shallow, I am inclined to think the writer had experienced a block and just threw in what he/she could muster to force the story to progress... The over reaction by all the characters was just too much of a stretch.
I was excited to watch this drama after reading so many positive reviews, so I had high hopes, but these fell…
Its my opinion from an Asian perspective.
Its a drama with two strong leads. The CEO is powerful yes, but the doctor is a director himself, established and not needing to impress the CEO in any manner nor a subordinate seeking approval and later romance which are typical scenarios with such a plot line.
Even the CEO does not fit the character, she is a stickler but not cold at all. She is strong but not arrogant. The predicament of FL is designed in such a way that the ML would always have had the power balance in his favour.
Frankly, I don't take it as a problem. Its different for different people but love changes things. Even if one has power in a marriage, it doesn't matter if the other is content. With love, emotional stability is the key point.
For me this drama was too slow to adapt to easily and only by the third episode I was able to get the grips. By 7th I was addicted.
The characters, plots and composition is off the charts. Its beautifully crafted into two halfs. First being about the slow peaceful life in the village and the plots within then later its about development, prosperity and the place the village tries to make for its future.
Even though this series has a romance tag, it actually didn't have much of it. For half of the drama, there is none, then was the man chasing the woman, and the woman though interested, pretending to be dense to the extent that I doubted she had any feelings for him. When they did get together, i was just not into their story anymore.
That's the time when it was hardest for me to wade till the end. This is not a drama that you can skip and still be fine later so it took me a week to finish the series.
The OST is great but it gets old in the later episodes, as the selection is composed of few songs, I think there are 3-4 in it. They should have included more songs to maintain the great atmosphere.
So all in all it was a struggle for me to rate it appropriately at the end, 90% percent of the drama is just phenomenal after all.
First, this drama is not for everyone. If you find yourself bored or consistently feel like this is becoming a…
I started to get this strong urge to spend time with the elders of my family from episode 7...
And frankly the time dynamic, the relaxed life style is superbly portrayed in this drama. How laid back can you get when that meditation maniac gets so much screen time... When the production team has the time to show people sleeping or just laying back on a sofa doing simply nothing...
They were even able to charm me with such mundane things happening on screen...
A good series for a one time watch. Starts very slow and boring, it took 4 episodes to get into. The emotional roller coaster was quite wild here. Also the last 5 episodes are rather meaty with content, every minute counts!
Many things you usually do not see exposed in Chinese dramas like crimes are blatantly used as plot devices here, though sometimes they are quite unbelievable.
The drama entails a group of single girlfriends which wade through life in a modern developed megacity. I don't know why other commenters are taking it so extraordinarily, I don't see it that way, its just the norm in such a setting.
The sudden death of their best friend, unlike the synopsis, doesn't really affect their lives much, essentially they continue as is throughout. That plot device is mishandled very badly and only serves to be a bundle of sad happy memories they experience every now and then. Even though they realize their mistakes, they don't change themselves instead they accept it as life rather than trying to improve which isn't that hard in today's convenient world. It only takes will to schedule and prioritize.
Other than that we see some character development in very few of the mains. Like Xu Yan and her boyfriend, though it takes them a long time but they do develop spectacularly.
The romance is fine I guess, nothing too passionate, the courtships are short but sweet. I actually loved Ji Nan Jia's story. All others were just meh especially when you consider the drama as a whole.
There is another aspect of the show that I saw very glaringly obvious that all of them were really addicted and obsessed at succeeding in one city, though yes a mega city but still I fathom there must be less demanding cities in China. Frankly what they were doing were quite similar to having slave contracts. I personally would never work in such conditions.
Not my cup of tea, but still barrelled through it, it became especially hard after E20 though. I need some rationality to like a drama and this is a fairy tail utopia that just doesn't work. The drama also actively avoids deep concepts and just brushes over the intricacies of a feudal society.
The only good thing is the second couple even though they have very little screen time and their story is turtle slow. The girl is fierce and the man is weak but their dynamic is comic relief which they do very well.
The romance of the leads is secondary and goes from sweet, frustrating, lovely to non-existent.
The ML is a henpecked husband while the FL is a dense selfish spoiled brat with nothing other than food to offer. I would have loved it, if she had at least half the talents Ying had.
The Ying x FL x ML situation is just out of this world... You really see how this story is so impossible when Ying gets introduced in the story. She is like this glowing goddess, an exemplary wife for a prince.
Villains are boring, weak and cowardly as they do nothing that really disrupts the ML's path. So even that goes into the fire. Schemes are also half hearted as majority action happens behind the scenes and we get a retelling through the main characters. Tension among the women is solely based on age old cliches...
Then there is the modern concepts of woman empowerment mixed in which just destroys the immersion of that society. Its an odd caricature where we live in historic times most of the series while we get teleported to a costume drama in the modern times for short periods...
The whole drama world gets compromised completely out of character in support of the modern concepts. All citizens become modern thinkers in a few days time instead of taking generations. But they still lived the same lives in tatters, that's the patchwork that perfectly describes this drama...
All around a great drama, just the last twist was completely unrealistic and odd.
The reason people blamed him was completely escapism on their part as they just couldn't do anything about something happening at such a grand scale, they chose to scapegoat the person they could hurt and oppress. In the west such people would have been sued to oblivion. To find yourself in such a scenario is an opportunity of a lifetime there.
In a world where a country like USA can bankrupt and starve millions just by printing trillions of its own currency, which it does regularly nowadays, its unfathomable for a fund manager to not know the realities.
Even the other trauma with truck was lazily shot. Truck-chan had ample time to turn away but it did so at the last second. I have seen many accidents where trucks turn away and slide across the road or go over the green belt at their peril just fine. Truck chan this time around was more afraid of destroying public property than saving lives...
Regardless, a recommended series, even setting aside the flawed plotting of ML's background, the romance was phenomenal and thus a well deserved rare rating of 9 from me!
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Same with speculations, some will be on the mark, some will not be on the mark but all of them will promote discussion on the problems of society or at least the ones perceived by the society as problems. All in all its beneficial regardless of the original conjecture being true or not.
It was perfectly normal for the brother to manipulate her that way as he was from an environment which readies him for such games and in fact is a crucial skill for his future endeavours.
She getting manipulated and not understanding what's wrong shown the lack of experience and short sightedness of her age.
Though I do see this scenario as being a red flag for the ML and him still getting her was questionable at best.
We are indeed in agreement about cussing and the show's narrative.
About mature themes; it encompasses everything that needs a mature mind to understand and manage, it does not mean the material in itself oozes maturity. As even a bully scalding someone isn't a mature decision but the scene can only be handled by a mature mind.
Your over-reaction on perhaps only 2-3 minutes of inconsequential sexual gratuitousness in a 16 hour long series, and also relating it with something so degraded as porn, irked me.
You understand that nuances of emotion are not present in porn, in comparison to a well choreographed romance sequence with your favourite actors. But then again you generalize it as watching porn.
There are myriad reasons that productions may have had to make it work without it, not necessarily that the plot doesn't need it. I will not talk about what could be as that's of weak premise.
Any such mature theme for me presents a chance that the team may have taken risks and employed artistic adventurism to present a unique experience.
This was a good show. There wasn't much thrill or mystery involved because of the way the FL handled everything. Actually I was put in a delusion of grandeur about it by the comments here. Suffice to say it didn't live up to those standards.
It is an odd show, I mean the depth it tries to go to and the darkness it indulges in, doesn't really reach the levels it requires. I always felt like something was missing. Perhaps that's where Korean censorship limits it. It did maintain a stable level of what you say interest for me which was on the high side but not so much that I would be glued to the screen.
The FL, the star of the show's personality due to her past trauma is the magnetic force that takes this drama to its climax. Which again is not something high on the spectrum as climaxes go. Simply speaking throughout there is this morbid stillness which continues till the end of the main arc.
The fabulous support as well as the villain gang is just phenomenal. They are not your typical 1D villains but people who have character, a life and goals. Each one has a story to tell and grow on.
The show is more about emotion IMO and not the actual revenge plot that it appears to depict. There is also a mature romance with all its subtleties and tension.
9/10
These can be meaningful for a story, both sex to depict deeper feelings / personality traits or just plain old commitment and the cuss words to depict the overall environment. And no you cannot just walk down the street or watch porn to experience the same, they are worlds apart.
Mature themes affords the writers much leeway in freedoms they can take to faithfully depict the story. That's exactly why this show has the depth it has, though still lacking very much in comparison to western shows which can do much darker.
Fortunately, I usually have a trove of dramas lined up, and this time around I have The Glory to sate my thirst. Though I will still go through withdrawal from this drama, it was just that good and I left it at a stage that really would have had a saucy romance starting. Me being a sucker for romance doesn't help...
I do not watch open ended dramas. I usually scour the comment section for specific keywords that I dread before trying any C or K drama. I like stories that are complete and end with a wholesome end. Having a novel doesn't matter, it may not have a translation or easy access.
Dang! I have not made a mistake like this in so long... The time I skip reading comments, I find myself in an addicting, nerve wracking but ultimately inconclusive waste of time!
Bai Lu, ah, only you can make me make such a mistake...
Few people tend to write them, mostly those with strong feelings about the drama, largely positive ones and few bad or balanced ones as that needs a special kind of conviction to go through with.
That's exactly why even in retail, you may sell hundreds before you score one review... Believe me unless there is an incentive most people don't like to spend time on writing reviews. Especially when others can comment or react on your review. Giving a rating is easy and anonymous.
Also ratings can sway by a bad ending or an ending with not much exposition or out of the world changes or even actor scandals...
Reviewers tend to hold the whole drama into perspective could be good or bad depending on your tastes. Like I tend to skip dramas with open/tragic/sudden endings or if romance started very late, regardless of how good the drama was overall.
A typical B-grade fair. You can't judge this drama like you do most of the titles here.
The only good actor is the ML, all else are just bad or so so. Villains are boring and frustratingly bad.
The criticisms about the FL are correct, she is obnoxious and self-destroying character. The age gap doesn't help either, she is too old for the role especially when they portray them in their younger days, its totally off.
The plots are abysmal and predictable to the extreme. In many such, the villain reveals itself early on and there is no suspense or thrill left when you can easily spot him among the crowds.
The world is even worse as the production prioritizes the glam over substance and plot appropriate setting. Like the FL wearing heals on police duty, running and chasing criminals throws this drama into absolute clown land. Then there is the police station which looks even more spacious than a multinational company's office. Even CIA, and NSA won't have such open wide spaces in their offices without purpose.
The production quality is cheap, there are very few locations, some I suspect are abandoned, and they even use CGI when travelling... All hallmarks of a budget constricted project are present.
The romance happens in an instant, I can't even justify it with their past. Yes, there is no courtship, except for some teasing and Boom they get together one sunny day. I was like how the hell did she not slap him across the face instead of turned her head in embarrassment...
The arc forcing the breakup and fulfilling the "Begin Again" prophecy is so bogus, rushed and unrealistic that even if I characterize the villain as a bona-fide psychopath, it still doesn't fit in... Literally I had the word psycho repeating in my mind whenever he started his tirade. The leads should have told this to his face, rather the outcome went exactly as he wanted with butter smooth efficiency.
Even the subplot of ML's education is just so shallow, I am inclined to think the writer had experienced a block and just threw in what he/she could muster to force the story to progress... The over reaction by all the characters was just too much of a stretch.
Its a drama with two strong leads. The CEO is powerful yes, but the doctor is a director himself, established and not needing to impress the CEO in any manner nor a subordinate seeking approval and later romance which are typical scenarios with such a plot line.
Even the CEO does not fit the character, she is a stickler but not cold at all. She is strong but not arrogant. The predicament of FL is designed in such a way that the ML would always have had the power balance in his favour.
Frankly, I don't take it as a problem. Its different for different people but love changes things. Even if one has power in a marriage, it doesn't matter if the other is content. With love, emotional stability is the key point.
For me this drama was too slow to adapt to easily and only by the third episode I was able to get the grips. By 7th I was addicted.
The characters, plots and composition is off the charts. Its beautifully crafted into two halfs. First being about the slow peaceful life in the village and the plots within then later its about development, prosperity and the place the village tries to make for its future.
Even though this series has a romance tag, it actually didn't have much of it. For half of the drama, there is none, then was the man chasing the woman, and the woman though interested, pretending to be dense to the extent that I doubted she had any feelings for him. When they did get together, i was just not into their story anymore.
That's the time when it was hardest for me to wade till the end. This is not a drama that you can skip and still be fine later so it took me a week to finish the series.
The OST is great but it gets old in the later episodes, as the selection is composed of few songs, I think there are 3-4 in it. They should have included more songs to maintain the great atmosphere.
So all in all it was a struggle for me to rate it appropriately at the end, 90% percent of the drama is just phenomenal after all.
8.5/10
And frankly the time dynamic, the relaxed life style is superbly portrayed in this drama. How laid back can you get when that meditation maniac gets so much screen time... When the production team has the time to show people sleeping or just laying back on a sofa doing simply nothing...
They were even able to charm me with such mundane things happening on screen...
A good series for a one time watch. Starts very slow and boring, it took 4 episodes to get into. The emotional roller coaster was quite wild here. Also the last 5 episodes are rather meaty with content, every minute counts!
Many things you usually do not see exposed in Chinese dramas like crimes are blatantly used as plot devices here, though sometimes they are quite unbelievable.
The drama entails a group of single girlfriends which wade through life in a modern developed megacity. I don't know why other commenters are taking it so extraordinarily, I don't see it that way, its just the norm in such a setting.
The sudden death of their best friend, unlike the synopsis, doesn't really affect their lives much, essentially they continue as is throughout. That plot device is mishandled very badly and only serves to be a bundle of sad happy memories they experience every now and then. Even though they realize their mistakes, they don't change themselves instead they accept it as life rather than trying to improve which isn't that hard in today's convenient world. It only takes will to schedule and prioritize.
Other than that we see some character development in very few of the mains. Like Xu Yan and her boyfriend, though it takes them a long time but they do develop spectacularly.
The romance is fine I guess, nothing too passionate, the courtships are short but sweet. I actually loved Ji Nan Jia's story. All others were just meh especially when you consider the drama as a whole.
There is another aspect of the show that I saw very glaringly obvious that all of them were really addicted and obsessed at succeeding in one city, though yes a mega city but still I fathom there must be less demanding cities in China. Frankly what they were doing were quite similar to having slave contracts. I personally would never work in such conditions.
8/10
Not my cup of tea, but still barrelled through it, it became especially hard after E20 though. I need some rationality to like a drama and this is a fairy tail utopia that just doesn't work. The drama also actively avoids deep concepts and just brushes over the intricacies of a feudal society.
The only good thing is the second couple even though they have very little screen time and their story is turtle slow. The girl is fierce and the man is weak but their dynamic is comic relief which they do very well.
The romance of the leads is secondary and goes from sweet, frustrating, lovely to non-existent.
The ML is a henpecked husband while the FL is a dense selfish spoiled brat with nothing other than food to offer. I would have loved it, if she had at least half the talents Ying had.
The Ying x FL x ML situation is just out of this world... You really see how this story is so impossible when Ying gets introduced in the story. She is like this glowing goddess, an exemplary wife for a prince.
Villains are boring, weak and cowardly as they do nothing that really disrupts the ML's path. So even that goes into the fire. Schemes are also half hearted as majority action happens behind the scenes and we get a retelling through the main characters. Tension among the women is solely based on age old cliches...
Then there is the modern concepts of woman empowerment mixed in which just destroys the immersion of that society. Its an odd caricature where we live in historic times most of the series while we get teleported to a costume drama in the modern times for short periods...
The whole drama world gets compromised completely out of character in support of the modern concepts. All citizens become modern thinkers in a few days time instead of taking generations. But they still lived the same lives in tatters, that's the patchwork that perfectly describes this drama...
The reason people blamed him was completely escapism on their part as they just couldn't do anything about something happening at such a grand scale, they chose to scapegoat the person they could hurt and oppress. In the west such people would have been sued to oblivion. To find yourself in such a scenario is an opportunity of a lifetime there.
In a world where a country like USA can bankrupt and starve millions just by printing trillions of its own currency, which it does regularly nowadays, its unfathomable for a fund manager to not know the realities.
Even the other trauma with truck was lazily shot. Truck-chan had ample time to turn away but it did so at the last second. I have seen many accidents where trucks turn away and slide across the road or go over the green belt at their peril just fine. Truck chan this time around was more afraid of destroying public property than saving lives...
Regardless, a recommended series, even setting aside the flawed plotting of ML's background, the romance was phenomenal and thus a well deserved rare rating of 9 from me!