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I know she'll never abandon her family but neither should he have to. Since this is supposed to be a love story I hope unlike the novel she'll come to love him just as much as he'll love her enough to risk her life for him etc and even put him first in some ways like it's obvious he'll do for her. I've seen the actress talk about her XQ's best quality is her sincerity and that once she decides to be by his side she's genuine so I guess we'll see.

So you think she's mostly manipulating him in 16/17?

Yup I would rather it was the same for both but it is what it is.

He is, for all the other ships I feel like both parties are just as in love with eo but with these 2 it seems he's way more into her than she is him.

The fact that he agreed to be her guardian spirit and is actively fighting him means it's at least a possibility for him otherwise what's his plan? Since he was told he'd need to deplete it to defeat him, just hope it works without it and then that thing kills all of them?

No because I'm also confused regarding this? He was told it would kill him and then the next scene he was like yes to YR? Does he have some plan they're not showing us or what???

I just saw the end date and I don't think I can do this every day for 3 weeks watching and hoping we're getting something instead of just him sacrificing himself and saving her 6789 times. I think I'll let a few episodes accumulate and then see where the story is at.

Maybe you're right but they left it very ambiguous, a single line or thought from her showing that's why they did would've made it better. Instead she's telling him to marry the other person and that she disappointed him etc which makes it seem more like it's about that rather than helping him.

Exactly and so many dramas do not seem to get that and it's always the ML showing and doing everything and the FL barely anything. Let's hope this is not one of them despite the trailers making it seem like it is and they will surprise us???

Why does it happen like that in the books (and now in the drama too it seems) he can explain the misunderstanding which she doesn't even remember and even if she did I don't think what she *thinks* he did requires him getting tortured and almost murdered. Is it another misunderstanding? You can't build an entire romance on a ML suffering 24/7 for the FL while she does nothing, if there's no reciprocity then it all falls apart.

Yeah it's not looking good in that regard, from the trailers it seems the other lives is him saving her constantly at great risk and he's getting stabbed and struck by lightning and almost killed by her multiple times???

Oh yeah I do get that but they didn't really explain why she did it, it seemed more like she was upset he was marrying someone else and decided to peace out lol. Also I'm worried about the upcoming different lives, in 2 of them she's either stabbing him or trying to kill him some other way when there is no way he's done anything to hurt her given how he's been so far so is it 5 other misunderstandings again or???

Did she sacrifice to save him? I'm still confused as to how fast she decided to enter the demotion pool while she had 10% of the information and how is that saving him? The trailers for what's coming are making it seem like he's atoning for some horrible wrong by sacrificing everything multiple times while she stabs him and tries to kill him because ???? None of this was his fault.

I really hope we get to see her protect him and sacrifice for him too cause that trailer is looking very one sided. Especially since the wedding seems to be not his fault. I don't think I can do 30 eps of him doing everything alone to make up for smt that was forced upon him. One of the reasons I liked his last drama AMBF is it had a great FL who was just as willing to do these things.

I don't know if this a joke or you're just being derisive but too many cdramas play out the exact same way when it comes to the romance. An obsessed ML if not from the start then soon enough for generally inexplicable reasons, 2-3 2MLs hanging around, a FL whose feelings are very rarely as deep as the MLs etc so it's easy to guess.

What makes it even funnier is that this is a chinese drama, meaning in 5 episodes max he's going to be obsessed with her and doing every single thing for while she displays 20% of the same feelings at best. And then when she finds out, he's going to spend 10-15 episodes groveling and begging for forgiveness, risking his life 30 times while she almost marries the SML until she deigns accept and by the time they finally get together you won't even be able to tell if she likes this man or is just settling for the winner of the "Most obsessed with me award".

People don't want to watch a love story anymore, they just want the ML to be head over heels for the FL from ep 1 even if most of the time it makes no sense. Believable relationship progression and a ML with his own goals and complexity ? What's that. All you need is a hot dude running after the FL and you're set. Y'all want someone to wake up after being drugged, find himself being forced into marriage and be like "Let's go my queen" Like be so for real.

You're a lot more generous than me, writing wise this was barely a 5 for me despite the great cinematography and my love for female revenge narratives. I saw the cracks early on with how nonsensical the "schemes" from all sides were and they completely lost me when she proclaimed "I am the fire" to the ML when most of her plotting seemed to succeed due to luck or other people's help and their entire relationship thus far had consisted of him saving her multiple times otherwise she would've been dead 10 times over. As you said the mother, both the actress and the character were the highlight of this story, as for the entire thing, while I really appreciate the focus on female characters and their stories and their willingness to showcase them as complicated and even downright deeply unlikable, at times it felt incredibly performative with "badass" moments and lines designed for tiktok bait instead of showcasing actually intelligent characters which is the issue with most of these girlboss cdramas.

Honestly that description sounds great,not only the focus on female relationships but also the mutual care and both of them doing the work instead of one person (99% of the time it's the guy) hopefully they don't change it because judging by the trailer it looks like quite one sided.

This sounds so much better than the novel synopsis. A lot more complex and interesting and I really hope the obsession and intensity is equal from both sides not just him and he's a multifaceted character with different priorities and not just love, we've gotten sooo many dramas lately where it's just the guy obsessed by himself with no other personality while the FL is all about her goals and it's getting really boring. The best couples are the ones where they're insane about each other not just one of them.