I love this show, my issue however is not that the "romance" is minimal I don't care about that, there are endless fantastic dramas with no romance it's rather the fact that a ml obsessed with a fl does not a romance make. I actually need to see both characters fall in love to be able to invest in a love story because -I'm in the audience not on the stage so a ml being whipped by himself means nothing to me since I have zero interest in seeing myself as the fl.
Prince annan looks extra sexy. I don't know if it's those groves, or those robes, or that hair style or just his…
I still haven't watched the last 6 episodes and I want to ask how was the romance from FL's side in those episodes? I loved that they showed she loved him as much as he loved her in the first 30 episodes but I'm seeing some spoilers and it seems like she just lets go of him even knowing he remembers...
Should we call this drama: he fell first she fell harder he fell even hardest? 🧐🤭😂😂
I haven't seen today's episodes yet but from the first 30 eps to me this is one of the rare cdramas where they seem to have both fallen just as hard as opposed to the ML falling harder...
Yeah I came here to read opinions to see if I should watch the drama and I'm confused as to why anyone cares what…
Yes I don't mind spoilers, I've been reading some posts and what I'm getting is he almost died for her at least twice, left his sect who tortured him for it to be with her, basically adores her and would do anything for her but I haven't seen anything that shows moments like that from her side...
Yeah I came here to read opinions to see if I should watch the drama and I'm confused as to why anyone cares what…
Thank you, a lot of Chinese dramas do tend to have MLs who are a lot more in love with the FLs and have the lion's share of actions that show love than vice versa while I prefer romances where it's equal so think more Blossom, Lighter and princess and less Kunning palace and End of the moon. Does this show the FL giving just as much in terms of everything as the ML (i.e being willing to die for him, enduring pain for him basically the same amount of devotion he shows etc...)? I don't want to waste my time and watch something where it's more unequal tbh.
This is such an underrated drama and deserves higher ratings. And following this page, I realised there have been…
Yeah I came here to read opinions to see if I should watch the drama and I'm confused as to why anyone cares what these people do in their private lives, they're doing a job and that's all we can demand from them. Back to the drama I wanted to ask how's the romance? Are we talking mutual devotion and equal love and sacrifice or is it more from the ML's side?
This sounds fun but can you tell me how balanced and equal the relationship is? is it just the ML or do we both putting in as much effort to support and love each other?
This drama came out of nowhere and it is absolutely terrific so far. It's doing everything SO well. The cases are interesting, emotional and while realistic use their leads intelligence to find solutions either inside or outside the courtroom.
Just 4 episodes in the leads are such well drawn and likeable characters with a lot of depth and complexity and their relationship is being so slowly and organically built, their differences and similarities, their late night chats, the scars they each carry and how they're already finding a confidant and a kindred spirit in each other.
If they continue with this quality this might end up being my favorite kdrama of the year.
I personally don't mind the suspension of disbelief needed for the cross dressing plot, it's necessary in these kinds of stories and there's no way around it. Yes it doesn't make sense that people who know her and interacted with her closely can't tell the different in height, build, voice between the two nor that most people can't tell that she's a woman but we pretend it does.
I'm more mystified at the giant plot hole in the first episode because how is it that she falls and wakes up in her Master's house, how did he know where she was or that she was injured? He or someone who knows him and her needed to have seen her fall or found her soon after for that to happen but they just had her wake up there with zero explanation.
The speech the FL gave about equality in society and how it's not truly the case because people do not have the same starting points has so much more weight now that we know that she is a very privileged person because it means she's aware of her privilege and is striving to make the world better not for people like her but people who did not get the same opportunities and support that she did.
oh I actually hate that it's not funny in the novel she tells him she loves him but she wants him to have other…
Cdrama writers are obsessed and I mean OBSESSED with making men act like children when they get jealous, even the most powerful secure men become bumbling fools when it's jealousy time and it's so annoying. You're right they think it's cute and funny but it's just deeply stupid and concerning but they just have to shove it in there in practically every romance drama if he's not acting a fool because of her for the most inane reasons then how will we know he's soooo in love with her (sarcasm)...
oh I actually hate that it's not funny in the novel she tells him she loves him but she wants him to have other…
You're right I am trying to treat them as two separate entities but it's a little difficult especially since I adored the novel and their relationship in it. I don't need it to be a carbon copy but I would've loved to see the same level of emotional investment from the fl in the novel where they seemed to be so in love with each other and to the same degree.
But here the more episodes I watch the more it looks like he's a lot more invested which is a shame since we rarely get relationship like this in dramas where the fl is doing all the chasing and it also falls back on the usual cdrama tropes lately when the fl is the one with the severe traumas the ml's existence is about healing and loving her but when it's the other way around with the exception of a few dramas like Hidden love or L and P, you rarely see the fl protect and support a ml in the same way, in fact he's even shown to protect her against the people causing his trauma. Anyway do you believe they showed their love was of equal standing in the end? With everything they said and did for each other?
I get the whole toning down of the male lead's alpha masculinity & over-confidence from the novel, but come…
oh I actually hate that it's not funny in the novel she tells him she loves him but she wants him to have other friends and a life outside of her because he deserves it. How's the drama after ep 18? the FL was kind of getting on my nerves does she go back to her novel self of being supportive and loving towards him like he is her? She was his biggest champion and defender in the novel and I kind of feel like the drama ruined that.
No SA is possessed by BS and in the preview for ep 12 he tells GS to die so he can take over his body instead of SA's and GS accepts but who knows what's actually going to happen.
Oh f*ck Yeomhwa and f*ck Bong su too. Why should GS die for you? It sucks that you lost your life but what about his? He spent most of it miserable and alone why do you think you have the right to take what's left of it from him?
Her not wanting to be with him bc of her secret at first has nothing to do with it. Everything he did wasn't because he wanted to get her to date him but because he cared that much, it they wanted to show she cared in the same way they would've. Now that they've gotten together she's affectionate I didn't say she wasn't I reiterate I said he has demonstrated time and again by his actions and words how much she means to him and we haven't gotten even a quarter of that from her. When they got together he was making speeches about what she means to him but her? Crickets. You seem to think I'm mounting some personal attack on her character or something, I'm criticizing the writing, she's ink on paper( obviously the actress is a real person which has nothing to do with any of this) and saying I (me) prefer equal otps which this 100% hasn't been so far or even close and I wanted to put it on hold until later to see if that changed.
You mean to tell me you think they have treated each other the same way? That they've poured the same love and affection in their relationship before it even turned romantic? I literally listed examples of all the things he did for her can you tell me the equivalent of it for her?
Just go back to the comments how many are exalting the ML's love his confessions his gifts risking his life for her etc and tell me the other way around? There are barely any comments about the FL doing the same things for 2 reasons, 1st because there are barely any actions or words of that kind an 2nd because people do not care as you've demonstrated with your answer, it's enough the FL likes him back that's considered they like eo just as much, actually showing it with her actions and words is me asking too much I guess.
The cases are interesting, emotional and while realistic use their leads intelligence to find solutions either inside or outside the courtroom.
Just 4 episodes in the leads are such well drawn and likeable characters with a lot of depth and complexity and their relationship is being so slowly and organically built, their differences and similarities, their late night chats, the scars they each carry and how they're already finding a confidant and a kindred spirit in each other.
If they continue with this quality this might end up being my favorite kdrama of the year.
I'm more mystified at the giant plot hole in the first episode because how is it that she falls and wakes up in her Master's house, how did he know where she was or that she was injured? He or someone who knows him and her needed to have seen her fall or found her soon after for that to happen but they just had her wake up there with zero explanation.
But here the more episodes I watch the more it looks like he's a lot more invested which is a shame since we rarely get relationship like this in dramas where the fl is doing all the chasing and it also falls back on the usual cdrama tropes lately when the fl is the one with the severe traumas the ml's existence is about healing and loving her but when it's the other way around with the exception of a few dramas like Hidden love or L and P, you rarely see the fl protect and support a ml in the same way, in fact he's even shown to protect her against the people causing his trauma. Anyway do you believe they showed their love was of equal standing in the end? With everything they said and did for each other?
Now that they've gotten together she's affectionate I didn't say she wasn't I reiterate I said he has demonstrated time and again by his actions and words how much she means to him and we haven't gotten even a quarter of that from her. When they got together he was making speeches about what she means to him but her? Crickets.
You seem to think I'm mounting some personal attack on her character or something, I'm criticizing the writing, she's ink on paper( obviously the actress is a real person which has nothing to do with any of this) and saying I (me) prefer equal otps which this 100% hasn't been so far or even close and I wanted to put it on hold until later to see if that changed.
Just go back to the comments how many are exalting the ML's love his confessions his gifts risking his life for her etc and tell me the other way around? There are barely any comments about the FL doing the same things for 2 reasons, 1st because there are barely any actions or words of that kind an 2nd because people do not care as you've demonstrated with your answer, it's enough the FL likes him back that's considered they like eo just as much, actually showing it with her actions and words is me asking too much I guess.