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I do that after korean bbq LOOOL

Its her usual escapism -runaway tendencies lol Jing understand her too well LOOL

have a good night!!

No no, you misunderstand me... in the novel this song was sung by another character, which was not adapted into this drama. I am not talking about the singer lol

Thanks 😊 I really appreciate when fellow fans can remain civil in discussion...
I also hope you will enjoy the drama which is way too short for us this season!

I guess its because I know who was supposed to sing that in the story so I am too aware that scene was added as fan service... probably worked better for audience who doesn't know

I guess its because I know who was supposed to sing that in the story so I am too aware that scene was added as fan service... probably worked better for audience who doesn't know

My whole point exactly. She was just waiting.
Did you see my post about what else Xiaoyao could have done?

Are they being so calculative? Why is it just a 'last attempt'? If Xiaoyao took the first step as you said, and sent the globe, then all she will do was sit and wait?

When back in Qingshui town, she needed Xiangliu's help, she hit her own leg. Now that she evolved and can survive in the sea, she still just sat on the shore. She could have jumped into the sea and swam out.
Anything she could have done, instead of staying safe and dry on the shore.

Her enthusiasm for Xiangliu to come get her, was so limited to just sitting there. That is my point. Waiting for destiny that will come or not come. She actually didn't really believe Xiangliu would come anyway.
What is the difference between her dressing up and going to marry Fenglong?

Glad we can understand each other.
I also find Xiangliu's motivation very interesting!!
I am still trying to decide on this, which I am curious about your insight to his choice..

Many people have said Xiangliu was in the army just because he wanted to repay Hong Jiang's 'life saving grace'.
But what I found interesting was, HJ never demanded XL to work for him right? XL was free and he actually returned to his side after going out into the world.

So now I am wondering, was XL hunting for his own life purpose?
As we move into the story, I am starting to realize, Xiangliu didn't join the army to die, he joined the army to see if he could help them turn the tide? He was lonely, he had his 9 heads, and he wanted to see if he was able to help these poor 'bunch of fools' as he had said before to Xiaoliu.

Its quite a difference for me if XL died in the end for his own aspirations instead of out of some blind loyalty to his foster father. I am sure there is some loyalty involved of course, but the meaning of his death will be quite different.

If he joined them wanting to help them win, that makes him no longer a defeatist. In fact all his actions trying to destabilize Central plains tells me he was not accepting defeat until it became inevitable. Xiangliu was playing his own grand game of chess. And when they eventually lost the game, he chose to die 'with' them because they were in it together, not 'for' Hong jiang.

That means XL had always been free, not 'slave' to HJ or family ties after all. Now I wonder if that is what Yangzi meant when she said Xiangliu was 'career-minded' and TH said, XL got what he wanted in the end.

She literally told him, that was the last poison she would make for him after she got married.
You are right, it was also kind of an 'SOS'. But the fact remained that XL did not go to her as she hoped. He chose to use this opportunity for his Chenrong army instead.
The most disappointing was why he was in a wedding gown. If you love her that much, then do it. Don't cosplay. 🙄

The crystal ball was a farewell. But if you think that is a first step, then Xiangliu failed to take the next step.
Either way, one of them did not love enough.

I feel bad for those audience who watch the story but sees nothing LOL
What are they really watching?

Its well known that Tan Jianci has bigger backers who invested in the LYF project. I have no issues with him. He has talent and worked hard in his career.
Anyone can see that his promotional materials are higher quality than even the leads.
What I am unhappy about is, they added scenes for the sake of giving fanservice, and it weakened Xiangliu's character in the drama for me.

Xiangliu was supposed to have direct access to Xiaoyao's heart via the couple bug. As you said, he can sense that Xiaoyao has not been over Tushan Jing over the decades. Maybe that is the reason he won't risk his heart to try to confess directly to her.
Even when he was using his demon powers, he did not dare to ask her directly, "Do you want to marry Fangfeng Bei?"

I don't think Xiaoyao is being fickle with her feelings. She has always been sincere towards all the men, and how she treated them was like her family, her lover and her best friend. She was also learning what it means to love, how to be the one to dare to take that first step into unknown territory... As many people have pointed out, she got alot of emotional baggage to work out.

The whole point of the story that the author has emphasized is, in all relationships, someone has to take the first step.

I am not saying Xiangliu should give Xiaoyao his all when she didn't love him as much at all? Why do you have that impression?
At least you can see that Xiaoyao didn't love him enough too, unlike some others who claim that Xiangliu is her 'true love'.

I just feel that after that scene of waiting for her 'love' to come pick her up, Xiaoyao was still unwilling to take the first step towards Xiangliu.
Even if she wears white or red, the message was the same.
She was only waiting for destiny to happen.

At Fenglong's wedding, once again Xiaoyao was only looking towards Tushan Jing. In the novel, she was thinking about him, which drama sadly never included any of her inner thoughts. She wondered why he looked sick etc not once did she look for Fangfeng Bei.

So in my mind, Xiaoyao only ever wanted Tushan Jing. So why she didn't marry him right away, that is something only she knows lol

I don't think I was assuming anything but commenting on what was happening. And its okay that we cannot see eye to eye.

Which is why I always say, for a relationship to work out, it really needs two people to be open with each other and work at it, with all information available to them. Tushan Jing also nearly gave up on Xiaoyao since he thought she was over him long ago.

Xiaoyao does not like a love based on 'gratitude', because being thankful for what someone else did for them, makes that feeling of being 'owed' and the love seems more like a repayment instead of based on well, feelings. Thats why she checked with Tushan Jing why he is so good to her - if it was because he wanted to pay her back, she would rather turn him down.

I think Xiangliu didn't want that kind of love either which is why he was willing to do so much for her, but he didn't want her to be burdened by that knowledge.

Xiangliu used up two lives to kill the bugs but he needed his heart to be alive. Everyone only has one heart.

Even figuratively, I meant that Xiangliu kept his heart for himself, because he made his own choice to choose his foster father, or his own 'family of soldiers' that he adopted over the centuries.

I don't doubt that Xiangliu did love Xiaoyao in his own way, and Xiaoyao had feelings for him. I just don't buy into that whole 'star-crossed lovers' thing some fans keep trying to push.

In her mind at the time, Xiaoyao already saw no future with TSJ since he was married with child and she cannot accept it. But yes as you said, she was struggling because her heart still wanted TSJ. She was devastated every time she thought that they would have nothing to do with each other anymore. So she cannot reply yes but she did not reply no.
Ye Shiqi is different, he has no clan to be responsible for, he was 'free'.

I looked into your 43 year plot point, and actually are you aware that for the 27 years the Haoling war was happening?
Xiaoyao loves her father and would have wanted him at her wedding so how could she just marry without him?

After that in the next 15 years... she continued to compile the medical books from Haoling to combine with Xiyan records after the two countries combined.

Xiaoyao waited more than 15 years for Tushan Jing to give her back a Ye Shiqi, so it made sense that she can take that little time for herself to work on the biggest project in her life that will benefit everyone in the entire world.

You keep suggesting that she delayed because she was reluctant to marry TSJ, yet you also say she was not waiting for Xiangliu.
Anyway I really don't see why that wait would really mean anything negative for the couple.

My post is not really arguing who is better for Xiaoyao.
Its not a matter of choosing her husband based on merits and what they did for her. As you said, ultimately girl has to follow her own heart.

Who is she going to take that step towards, to walk into an unknown future and rely on in life's path? 😊

My point exactly... XL could give up his lives... but in the end he kept his heart for himself.

Xiangliu received more love from the tencent production company lol
Not from Xiaoyao.

I am saying this to the people who know Chichen story and claimed that Xiangliu is his 'parallel'. When he is not.

I don't think Xiangliu don't understand feeling. Aren't you being too harsh about him? Yes Xiangliu also learning what it means to put himself out there and love someone else. So I am just pointing out that in the end, he chose his own 'side'.
Am I wrong?

My discussion point is how different the two men are and the way both men chose to love another person.

Why did you get the impression that I wanted Xiangliu to choose Xiaoyao?
As you said, she never proved to love him enough either. Just because he is a demon, he also deserve a sincere heart. I am just sorry he won't give himself the chance, because he already devoted his life purpose to another cause.