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It's really a mix of four different genres, imo. I do think it's a BL, but it's mainly two other genres: slice of life, and coming of age. But all the main characters except Nan are gay so I don't know why people are averse to calling it a BL as well. There are many shows that are crossovers like this one.

And why don't we even know his name? This is ridiculously stupid. These writers forget everything in this series. Name is supposedly over his affliction, so let's have a name for Name, you crazy writers. It's almost like they half remembered during one of those last scenes when they become kids again and Name is about to tell us. Weird.

I'm confused by the ending because he can't have dreamt about people he never met. If it wasn't a dream, though, what does that scene even mean?

I hope so. I can't understand that ending. He can't have dreamt about people he never met like Gus, or the killers. I'm just not sure what that scene means, but I'm hoping for the best and that the world really didn't end.

I hope so. I can't understand that ending. He can't have dreamt about people he never met like Gus, or the killers. I'm just not sure what that scene means, but I'm hoping for the best and that the world really didn't end.

I'm going to keep believing the moon just bounced off the Earth with no harm done. That's right, there was a miracle baby there. We just can't kill babies like this. That moon just changed it's mind when it saw that baby, and went back home like a good little moon.

And why is Nan still wearing that wig ten years later? What the hell?! Is that thing surgically attached to his head?

This ending is a case of too little, too late. Who even knew Champ was gay till like the last few split seconds of the show? Name and Em finally kiss out of nowhere during the final few scenes. We missed them having anything like a relationship for most of 14 episdodes. Chompu finally gets a brotherly hug at the end, just to show us Nan isn't repulsed by her. I'm still missing any happy moments between Gun and Golf as a married couple.

It just feels like they realized at the end they have to just tie up all the loose ends and give people a small bit of closure. I probably shouldn't have even bothered finishing this, but it's a series that did try a few different things - they were just totally not up to the job of making anything out of those ideas. It was one of the slowest paced dramas I have ever watched. There were many that felt like watching paint dry, and the tiny movement in each character's story mirrored the total lack of real development in each storyline. We only got a bunch of conclusions that are just written in at the end with no one earning any of those happy endings. The most heartfelt and moving scene at the end of this series involves Champ's sister, but who even is this character who we barely got to know during the whole series, except as a member of Champ's family whose story no one is interested in. This is one of the worst series I have ever watched, and I highly recommend you not start this - I think it would be ok if you were a prisoner in Thai prison - those jails are rough down there, and I can understand if you watch Remember Me to forget about the brutal conditions.

Really the best high school BL I've ever seen. I've seen all of this before, plot-wise, but it really is the execution. It's superlative here, and there are no missed opportunities, or scenes with clunky editing. The other important thing for me is the elimination of most of the worst tropes, especially the miscommunication trope that is always dragging most BL's down. As in previous episodes, everything is resolved within the episode, instead of lingering like a disease for several, making every scene feel more significant. The songs are perfect here and cap every moment, adding another layer of excellence on to a show that is far better than your normal BL even without it. Even the comedy is way better than normal. The scenes with the high school guidance counselor, and the Ted Talk scene were just some of the funniest I've seen in Thai BL. I didn't think they would be able to keep it up after episode 3, but two episodes later they are still getting better, and episode 5 is the best. How they got every character's plot moving forward, making a sympathetic portrayal of all of them this episode is incredible, and very skillful. Most shows collapse when they have to handle this many characters - watch Remember Me if you want an example of this. This is a show that makes use of every minute, and is clearly the benchmark for any high school BL moving forward.

Oh, yes, woops! Ae and not Saint's character who is Ae's love interest

This has nothing to do with the show but I thought it would be interesting to show people some of the context of living in Thailand. It just feels like many people on here are not aware of the general environment. I watch a lot of these kind of videos, and this one does a good job with depicting your average Thai person living in Bangkok. I think this might help explain a little bit of the class difference between Neungdiao and Palm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EsI2N7oLiE&ab_channel=ThaiTalkwithPaddy

Where is BenedictTan? Where are you hiding? I miss your monthly stat updates. I guess you are entitled to a vacation 😂😂

I'm not an actor either, and I agree with you it is difficult to assess. I can only go by the the enormous amount of good acting I've seen in various genres, but Phuwin seems to be ok, and he does have a nice range - you'll have to see him in Warp Effect to see some of that. I think this is a challenging role and he could have totally collapsed, and I don't see that at all. This is not a role for a neophyte.

I think it's Thai culture they don't understand. That fight scene was not unusual. If you throw a punch at someone and their friends are there to help them, they will beat you down like they did to Palm. If you are a Farang, you will get it much worse than a Thai person.

I think the criticism of Phuwin's acting where no one cites any examples has nothing to do with this though. I don't know what that's about.

I find the criticism of this show to be pretty unreal. P'Jojo is a great director, and this is a really intriguing story. Why people are complaining about the acting (without citing anything), or directing is beyond me. Every time someone does something new and exciting, and goes beyond the normal BL format we get this nitpicking.

Yes I agree, but they overdid it. That is like outer space awkward - I'll kiss someone like that only if I hate them, lol.

In Thai culture if you throw a punch like Palm did you're going to get this kind of reaction. It's actually something they warn you about if you travel there. Everyone will join in the fight and the people who started it are going to get a huge beat down. I didn't think it was unrealistic at all. But even if it wasn't, it served a narrative purpose like you said. I'm going to post a video of this as soon as I find one.

Ok, I completely agree with that. Overall, not significant to the drama. I'm saying the same thing about the drunken fight scene at the end of this episode.

I love this series. I'm defending everything about it, except that kiss. It doesn't affect my overall opinion of this show at all. Just a weird kiss, though. The director is a pro and has done a thousand kiss scenes so I'm just curious why it happened like that.

Yes. It's right here:
https://youtu.be/1kRT1ZUOXc4?t=346

Check him out in Warp Effect. It's like night and day even if it's with a woman. He's doing a full on sex scene. And it's the same director. I just can't understand what happened here.

https://youtu.be/34MqtlzULYs?t=117