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Rich people in general don't have a huge squad of security forces protecting them. I don't know why people keep mentioning that like it was a thing. You won't find this hardly anywhere. Chopper's dad is more like a mafia gangster so he has a bunch of thugs around him because that's the nature of his business. Tanya should have beefed up security around herself, but she probably was thinking that no one would kill her in broad daylight, outside her home. Hindsight is always perfect, and most wealthy people would not have done anything differently than what she did.

It's too bad the mom gets killed so quickly after she just has such a really meaningful, and touching speech with her son. Of course, it's become almost universal having accepting parents in BL's which is now become an integral part of the fantasy element in this genre, but I loved how the mom said he shouldn't eat vegetable just to please her. It was really a nice analogy to her accepting him being gay.

Does anyone not appreciate this is one of the most dramatic BL's ever? I think that's what makes this show stand out. Who is behind the picture of Ben and Neungdiao kissing? Who's behind the killing of Neungdiao's parents? There are also such sudden and dramatic changes in the plot. Neungdiao was in love with Ben a minute ago, and his servant, Palm, apologizes for even being slightly friendly with Neungdiao, and then Neungdiao violently rejects Ben as his lover, and Palm soon afterwards kisses him passionately. Palm's father treats him like garbage at the beginning of the episode and risks his life to allow Palm to make his getaway at the end. Neungdiao is humiliated in school, but makes a bold resolve to go back and fight the bullies that are attacking him, but now he has to end school altogether so he can take over the family business at a very young age without having any knowledge on how to run a business, let alone a huge conglomerate, but must first escape and hide from his would be assassins. I don't think I've seen anything like it since Manner of Death.

I think everything is done well so far in this series [except for some of the fight scenes], including the beginning of the romance between Ben and Chopper. All the characters are well drawn, and the cinematography is excellent - this is definitely at a cinematic level. The scenes in the next episode on the beach look visually stunning. Overall a great Bl and definitely one of the best of the year.

Wow that was a powerful episode. I was watching Ton's mom still bitter and angry at Team and Team still not able to forgive himself, crying in the rain. Then Win really risks his life, a little foolishly, driving in the pouring rain, to comfort Win who is in like a catatonic state by the graveside of Ton. This was just very moving, almost overwhelming. The acting was just really perfect here. If you couldn't feel anything in this episode, I don't know what to say. I know they've been playing the angst pretty hard, but it's really worth it in this episode. Really beautifully done. If Win didn't capture Team's heart, nothing will do it, and this is a series where you know the happy ending will be really deserved and fitting.

I don't see anything that's really bad in this series like some people are saying on here. I'm enjoying it, and am not bored at all. I like the story of the kid traveling to the future who supports his grandma, and the one from the other couple who grew up in several orphanages. That's the thing that most interests me in the plot because those are really touching stories. I just hope they do justice to them. Lin Huai is a sweet character and you just hope the best for him, and he's falling in love with his mentor who loves him for his pure and gentle character - that's a great story for me. The scene with He Bo Wei and his grandma was also very sweet - his grandma is such a lovely character who sacrifices, and slaves away to support her grandson, and that scene where he talks about saving up enough so they can have an apartment really pulls at your heartstrings. Call me a sentimentalist, but I love this kind of story, and they pulled it off well - the scene with the grandma was done perfectly. I think all the silly scenes don't take away from the serious tone of the series, but are just a way of making the show not take itself too seriously. I think the silly role He Bo plays to get his employer his girlfriend is rather ludicrous but perhaps it will get serious later on. I think the other couple is more engaging because they've avoided the comedy, for the most part. Liang Wen is so charming when he comes to the rescue of Lin Huai, and those have been the best scenes so far. I'm not worried about the power/age differential because it is totally obvious that Liang Wen has very pure intentions [I wouldn't ever worry about this, anyway, but I know people are going to mention it on here]. This is off to a great start, and really is a good addition to the History franchise, despite what is being said on here. It's not dark like MODC, or super edgy like Close to You, but has its own separate, light yet serious character that is really engaging.

It's really a mix of four different genres, imo. I do think it's a BL, but it's mainly two other genres: slice of life, and coming of age. But all the main characters except Nan are gay so I don't know why people are averse to calling it a BL as well. There are many shows that are crossovers like this one.

And why don't we even know his name? This is ridiculously stupid. These writers forget everything in this series. Name is supposedly over his affliction, so let's have a name for Name, you crazy writers. It's almost like they half remembered during one of those last scenes when they become kids again and Name is about to tell us. Weird.

I'm confused by the ending because he can't have dreamt about people he never met. If it wasn't a dream, though, what does that scene even mean?

I hope so. I can't understand that ending. He can't have dreamt about people he never met like Gus, or the killers. I'm just not sure what that scene means, but I'm hoping for the best and that the world really didn't end.

I hope so. I can't understand that ending. He can't have dreamt about people he never met like Gus, or the killers. I'm just not sure what that scene means, but I'm hoping for the best and that the world really didn't end.

I'm going to keep believing the moon just bounced off the Earth with no harm done. That's right, there was a miracle baby there. We just can't kill babies like this. That moon just changed it's mind when it saw that baby, and went back home like a good little moon.

And why is Nan still wearing that wig ten years later? What the hell?! Is that thing surgically attached to his head?

This ending is a case of too little, too late. Who even knew Champ was gay till like the last few split seconds of the show? Name and Em finally kiss out of nowhere during the final few scenes. We missed them having anything like a relationship for most of 14 episdodes. Chompu finally gets a brotherly hug at the end, just to show us Nan isn't repulsed by her. I'm still missing any happy moments between Gun and Golf as a married couple.

It just feels like they realized at the end they have to just tie up all the loose ends and give people a small bit of closure. I probably shouldn't have even bothered finishing this, but it's a series that did try a few different things - they were just totally not up to the job of making anything out of those ideas. It was one of the slowest paced dramas I have ever watched. There were many that felt like watching paint dry, and the tiny movement in each character's story mirrored the total lack of real development in each storyline. We only got a bunch of conclusions that are just written in at the end with no one earning any of those happy endings. The most heartfelt and moving scene at the end of this series involves Champ's sister, but who even is this character who we barely got to know during the whole series, except as a member of Champ's family whose story no one is interested in. This is one of the worst series I have ever watched, and I highly recommend you not start this - I think it would be ok if you were a prisoner in Thai prison - those jails are rough down there, and I can understand if you watch Remember Me to forget about the brutal conditions.

Really the best high school BL I've ever seen. I've seen all of this before, plot-wise, but it really is the execution. It's superlative here, and there are no missed opportunities, or scenes with clunky editing. The other important thing for me is the elimination of most of the worst tropes, especially the miscommunication trope that is always dragging most BL's down. As in previous episodes, everything is resolved within the episode, instead of lingering like a disease for several, making every scene feel more significant. The songs are perfect here and cap every moment, adding another layer of excellence on to a show that is far better than your normal BL even without it. Even the comedy is way better than normal. The scenes with the high school guidance counselor, and the Ted Talk scene were just some of the funniest I've seen in Thai BL. I didn't think they would be able to keep it up after episode 3, but two episodes later they are still getting better, and episode 5 is the best. How they got every character's plot moving forward, making a sympathetic portrayal of all of them this episode is incredible, and very skillful. Most shows collapse when they have to handle this many characters - watch Remember Me if you want an example of this. This is a show that makes use of every minute, and is clearly the benchmark for any high school BL moving forward.

Oh, yes, woops! Ae and not Saint's character who is Ae's love interest

This has nothing to do with the show but I thought it would be interesting to show people some of the context of living in Thailand. It just feels like many people on here are not aware of the general environment. I watch a lot of these kind of videos, and this one does a good job with depicting your average Thai person living in Bangkok. I think this might help explain a little bit of the class difference between Neungdiao and Palm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EsI2N7oLiE&ab_channel=ThaiTalkwithPaddy

Where is BenedictTan? Where are you hiding? I miss your monthly stat updates. I guess you are entitled to a vacation 😂😂

I'm not an actor either, and I agree with you it is difficult to assess. I can only go by the the enormous amount of good acting I've seen in various genres, but Phuwin seems to be ok, and he does have a nice range - you'll have to see him in Warp Effect to see some of that. I think this is a challenging role and he could have totally collapsed, and I don't see that at all. This is not a role for a neophyte.

I think it's Thai culture they don't understand. That fight scene was not unusual. If you throw a punch at someone and their friends are there to help them, they will beat you down like they did to Palm. If you are a Farang, you will get it much worse than a Thai person.

I think the criticism of Phuwin's acting where no one cites any examples has nothing to do with this though. I don't know what that's about.

I find the criticism of this show to be pretty unreal. P'Jojo is a great director, and this is a really intriguing story. Why people are complaining about the acting (without citing anything), or directing is beyond me. Every time someone does something new and exciting, and goes beyond the normal BL format we get this nitpicking.

Yes I agree, but they overdid it. That is like outer space awkward - I'll kiss someone like that only if I hate them, lol.