I've been trying to see what people are talking about concerning Phuwin's acting, but I can't see it. I would be lying if I said I thought it was really bad, and I actually think it's pretty decent. I don't think he's as good as Perth or Chimon - their acting seems effortless whereas Phuwin's does seem like he's working at it, but he'll get there. Perth was a little stiff in his first roles as well. His Ae in Love by Chance was definitely good, but it was a little forced. I think Chimon and Perth are at the level that you don't even notice their acting which is the goal of a really good actor, but Phuwin can get there with a few more roles. He's not bad in this at all. This is a very challenging role, and he's playing a character that has a lot of complex emotions. Take, for example, whenever he is with Palm, the constant shift he experiences between a compassionate lover, and dominant upper class snob, vacillating between looking at him with pure longing, and treating him like chattel. I think he captures that really well. How he treats Chimon's character is different because he just has a more casual interest in him, and I think Phuwin captures the gradation of interest between his love for Palm, and his simple, exploratory interest in Ben with really nuanced acting.
I have no problem with the drunken scene at the end. I felt that it was a manifestation of Neungdiao's guilt for kissing Ben, compounded with jealousy over Palm's flirtation with his friend. What Neungdiao's done is very insensitive to Palm, and he should be ashamed of himself, because he knows he really loves Palm. Earlier in the day he just brushes it off when Palm confronts him about the kiss. This is a little bit of a shadow play scene, because Palm is really telling him he has seen Neungdiao with another man and that he's jealous, while Neungdiao pretends he has no interest in Palm and pretends he's not taken aback that he's been caught by him. Unconsciously, during the fight, he reveals how much he really is interested in Palm, and Nuengdiao is also a little bit of the entitled brat, and that comes out as well. It was a complex scene where a lot of subconscious motivations took over. I think he plays that crazy drunk really well. I don't know why everyone is disappointed in this scene because everyone's motivations are clearly made out, and acted out in a sensible and realistic way. Actually, this is a very interesting and well executed scene, in my opinion.
That was shot so strangely. That kiss must have a backstory as to how it became so weird. P'Jojo is an experienced director whose doing a lot of really explicit scenes in other shows like Warp Effect, and those are shot really well - but this is the clunkiest and ugliest kiss I've ever seen in a BL.
"Even though this whole saga has settled into a bromance with wigs"HA HA HA!That comment killed me :D
Thanks! Sorry, was at work and my phone no longer lets me make comments on MDL - no idea why. Once Again is a tragedy and the main character travels back in time to rescue his lover who is murdered by a serial killer. Unfortunately, he's not able to do this and goes back to the present having spent a few days with him, going out on a few dates, and returning to the present where he tries to move on with his life - he was kind of stuck in a rut, constantly thinking of the person he lost. The weird part is that there is another version of him that keeps going back to the past and relives the tragedy over and over again, like a kind of living hell. I think that part is just kind of sick and unnecessary. So to be clear, there are two versions of the main character, one stuck in an endless loop, and one that is moving on with his life after losing his lover. I think this is one to avoid, unless you are a fan of tragedy verging on horror.
The 2 seasons of Gay OK Bangkok and Friend Zone have a kind of similar natural and permissive talk and interpretation…
Oh right, I've seen those. I wasn't even aware P'Jojo was the director of those series [never looked it up]. OK Bangkok has always been one of my favorites, and is definitely a pioneering series that was well ahead of its time. I love Friend Zone as well. I guess I forgot all about those series in making my point. Well, this is still one of a few handful of series that is this explicit, and I'm enjoying how it's pushing boundaries just like those other shows.
I disagree that Newie is that relaxed because it is a non BL role. I am sure that is not the case. He has not…
He was playing a comedic role in I'm Tee, Me Too. I can see his comedic side in a lot of his fanservice videos with Tay, especially that food show that they do. I've always thought he was versatile but they usually have him play this stiff character like in Comments which was unnaturally stiff, almost zombie-like. I don't think it's dabbling. He's naturally more like this character in this series, in my opinion. But I agree that he was getting typecast, for the most part.
I'm having the same problem across all GMMTV shows. You can watch them on dramacool with subtitles. You can watch this show, and Never Let Me Go on there. I'm suspecting My School President will also have this problem when it airs on Friday.
Honestly when PondPhuwin were announced as leads of this lakorn-style heavy drama BL series, I was a bit worried…
I love your comment! There is definitely a lot of realism here, and it is not the fantasy world of KinnPorsche. There is something new and exciting in this BL, and people have to give it a chance. I am tired of people criticizing Phuwin's acting. Check him out in the Warp Effect if you want to see him act more relaxed. He's supposed to be stiff and awkward here. It's his character! And the rest of this is really engrossing. There is like an enormous amount of mystery and suspense. I have a thousand questions as to what's going on, and I don't know why everyone isn't feeling the suspense. You have to be kidding me. This is exciting. Also check out Warp Effect if you want to see P'Jojo doing something like totally oppposite to the context of this show. This is a talented director.
I tried some troubleshooting. I tried different browsers, and I'm thinking of using a VPN next. It's just they're asking you to pay for them nowadays. I think I'm going to try some third party sites like Dramacool, etc.
WTF I can't get any captions on youtube. Anyone else having this problem? It's like every series from GMMTV. Weird. I'm in the US - not sure if that's related to that.
"Even though this whole saga has settled into a bromance with wigs"HA HA HA!That comment killed me :D
Hey, sorry for interrupting this semi-private convo, but Once Again is just not that good. It's really a sloppy time travel show. I kind of misunderstood how the time travel works in it at the beginning, but it's weird and really makes no sense. I like to write sci-fi and study this and it's not using any science, but apart from that, even if it makes use of its own science (magical science), it's not thought through very well, and if you want a spoiler, I'll tell you how it ends. But some people liked it, and some people whose opinions I respect so it's kind of weird they got fooled by it, because I understand time travel pretty well and it's just kind of stupid even if it is not related to any real science. Just the idea behind it is pretty bad even if you are not going into the scientific aspect of it.
Huh, how did I become a VIP? There go my rights to being an underground nobody on this board. I didn't really contribute 10 million dollars to Mydramalist. I just couldn't get it to come up on my phone anymore so I contributed to them - some pitiful amount to just get them off my back with their obnoxious commercials. And my phone still doesn't work, ugh! Sorry about the rant that is totally unrelated to the show, lol.
I know. It's weird. I wish I knew more Thai, lol. I kept thinking maybe it has something to do with being in the US, but who knows. And still not available. I just checked. Thanks for responding. You're so nice ππ
Damn, I thought someone was going to die in this show. I was hoping it was going to be Nan. I could already see the tombstone for him laid out with his wig on top. Or I guess an urn with his wig perched above it. There could have been some beautiful funeral orations : "Nan had great taste in wigs. That's what I most remember about him. How that velvety rug just wrapped itself around his head, and its lapping tendrils just caressed his face will be my most vivid memory of him. That wig was magnetic, it had an aura of something angelic, and brought us all together. Thank you Nan for your beautiful wig. We will always remember it."
Wow that was hot!! Fluke is much more likable here than in his other series. He's really playing a gay person, rather than a BL straight guy, if you know what I mean. As an actor he's also far better here than in his other roles from the past, like in the Shipper. His expressions are so much more playful, and he is definitely trying to act a little more gay to capture the real character here. This show is just so edgy. They're really talking about sex in a natural way. I'm not sure I've ever seen this before in a Thai program - well, I know I haven't but is there any other show like this? I like how Phuwin and his girlfriend are having such a nice, mature talk about their sex life. And Fluke's sex is just some of the best NC stuff I've seen. I was just expecting to watch a completely het drama with a token hint of gay homoeroticism, and not this! Kudos to whoever had the guts to pull this off.
I am going to focus on a few positives in this series. Remember Me does experiment with the BL format in several ways. It's actually a mix of four different genres, in my opinion - it's a BL, a gay drama, a slice of life drama, and a coming of age drama. There is a BL couple in this like you find in every other BL. Name and Em are also a couple even if that has hardly been delved into. There are elements of a gay drama because they speak about LGBTQ rights, and they have a couple thatβs getting married. It's technically a slice of life drama because it centers around just everyday events and the drama that comes out of normal activities - though it breaks out of that mold once in a while. It is also a coming of age drama because it takes the lives of the various protagonists from a young age to their post-collegiate professional lives. It's really trying to go in a lot of new directions at the same time and is far different from your normal "BL". It just doesn't really execute any of that really well, but I'm giving them points for the effort. They also delve into a few new themes such as the depiction of people with disabilities, family dramas, and people with terrible fashion sense [joking] that are less commonly seen in BL's. Also the incorporation of a lot of nostalgic elements, uncommon in the vast majority of BL's, adds another element of uniqueness.
The main positive that you can take out of this series is to look at the new ground they're covering. If you're a content creator you can use this to make new innovative BL's. Hopefully you will have far higher artistic standards.
No matter how much they're experimenting in this series, I still prefer a simple plain vanilla BL like My School President, or Love Mechanics. They might have every trope in the book, but they are executed almost perfectly. In music Mozart is considered about the best but he never invented anything - he just took the current musical idioms of his time to the highest level of perfection that was attainable. In a lot of the modern visual arts, there is a lot of experimentation, and some professor will explain what a lot of these mostly ugly art works mean for hours, but they can never make you enjoy them. I like that they experimented a lot in this drama, but I can't really appreciate it, but I can see where someone could take these ideas and make a really amazing, innovative drama in the future.
You make good points, but I like this series because I like slice of life stories, and this is how people in their…
I like your very positive comments on various series including this one. I completely support it. If you enjoyed this, good for you. It's apparent from my comment that I didn't. I just want BL's to get better, and I want to provide constructive criticism, but I must admit I found it hard to do it with this show especially since they are stringing people along with phony angst. They are also using people with disabilities to draw upon people's sympathies without treating their conditions seriously or with respect.
I have no problem with the drunken scene at the end. I felt that it was a manifestation of Neungdiao's guilt for kissing Ben, compounded with jealousy over Palm's flirtation with his friend. What Neungdiao's done is very insensitive to Palm, and he should be ashamed of himself, because he knows he really loves Palm. Earlier in the day he just brushes it off when Palm confronts him about the kiss. This is a little bit of a shadow play scene, because Palm is really telling him he has seen Neungdiao with another man and that he's jealous, while Neungdiao pretends he has no interest in Palm and pretends he's not taken aback that he's been caught by him. Unconsciously, during the fight, he reveals how much he really is interested in Palm, and Nuengdiao is also a little bit of the entitled brat, and that comes out as well. It was a complex scene where a lot of subconscious motivations took over. I think he plays that crazy drunk really well. I don't know why everyone is disappointed in this scene because everyone's motivations are clearly made out, and acted out in a sensible and realistic way. Actually, this is a very interesting and well executed scene, in my opinion.
The main positive that you can take out of this series is to look at the new ground they're covering. If you're a content creator you can use this to make new innovative BL's. Hopefully you will have far higher artistic standards.
No matter how much they're experimenting in this series, I still prefer a simple plain vanilla BL like My School President, or Love Mechanics. They might have every trope in the book, but they are executed almost perfectly. In music Mozart is considered about the best but he never invented anything - he just took the current musical idioms of his time to the highest level of perfection that was attainable. In a lot of the modern visual arts, there is a lot of experimentation, and some professor will explain what a lot of these mostly ugly art works mean for hours, but they can never make you enjoy them. I like that they experimented a lot in this drama, but I can't really appreciate it, but I can see where someone could take these ideas and make a really amazing, innovative drama in the future.