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These Mame productions are really kooky. They feel Disneyesque but with a lot of weird kinky scenes - like high school musical meets fifty shades of grey. The dialogue is just so silly- I'll just take it as comedy. Rain's dialogue is written for a very immature kid, somewhere around 8-10 years old. He treats his love relationship like a game of Candyland [omg how many times do I have to hear Rain complaining how Phayu cheated during his turn]. Phayu, who's much more mature, and really a decent guy, talks like he's a pedophile intent on molesting this kid in the most publicly embarrassing way possible. For the most part, I look at this as a comedy, and it's pretty entertaining that way. And the kissing scenes are not bad. Honestly the most memorable scenes were the spanking scene, the one with the anal suppository, and the make out scenes. The rest of this is just artistically terrible, and those scenes are terrible too but they're kind of fun to watch. And the kissing is really very, very good - some of the best in any BL.

It must be a contract because I feel the actors can do it. Why they force that into the contract, I will never understand. I think they feel that's all the Thai audience can take, but I feel things are loosening up lately. KinnPorsche certainly had a ton of intimacy beyond the norm.

OMG, I agree that was not a forced kiss. It's just the opposite, because we are so trained to not have virtually any kissing at all. Some only think this doesn't feel natural when it totally is, because they are not used to things that should be normal, realistic interactions between young men who have the hots for each other.

I know exactly what you're talking about. I only replay this kiss, and even if the one in Bad Buddy was good, and legendary, it still feels staged. Let's say that was a dramatic kiss with a lot of fireworks. The one in The Eclipse feels private, and I replay it because it feels so real and intimate. It might just be a matter of personal preference.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. They need organic development, and if people feel passionate about each other they WILL kiss, and it won't feel artificial and we will all love it. Please let it happen GMMTV, because even if all your care about is ratings, this would help.

For real, lol. That would be far more entertaining than anything that could happen given the current trajectory of the plot.

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Ok, I can agree with that. I was thinking that even as I was writing this. How about top 2, then?

Here's a video with Chang Min. Now I don't have any dislike for him even if he dropped Jeong Hyun, but he has had over 20 relationships since he started dating - that's just too many, imo. It's no surprise he just stopped seeing Jeong Hyun so quickly - he's having 2-4 relationships per year. On a positive note, he's a great singer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiwj9m1Iw4Y&ab_channel=%EB%82%A8%EA%B7%9CNAMGYU

That had to be the best kiss in BL history. I agree with everyone that highlighted it. I'm just thinking how this happened with Bad Buddy, and people were talking about it for months. I really think this one was better. It was natural, and relaxed. This is about the only time I didn't feel like I was watching people acting. It felt more like I had a window into a personal moment between two lovers in the real world. Ayan was vulnerable, and Akk was tender and comforting. Just beautiful!

Here's something with Chan Gyu. It looks like he's doing well, so don't worry too much about what happened to him during the show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvS6WA-baW0&ab_channel=%EB%82%A8%EA%B7%9CNAMGYU

In this one he says he works at Chang Min's bar - huh? I didn't know Chang Min had a bar. I thought he had a catering business. I guess at least Chang Min treated him decently. Chang Yu also say his instagram picked up quite a lot after HIs Man and I'm thinking that probably helps his youtube career. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGS0XJR2M-0&ab_channel=%EB%82%A8%EA%B7%9CNAMGYU

Does anyone wonder why Ayan carries that notebook around? If it's really important to him, he should just lock it up in a safe, and Ayan's family could just help him with that since they seem to be pretty wealthy. Ayan's very intelligent so I'm sure he's up to something carrying that notebook around. I bet he wants it to be stolen for some reason.

You're probably right. I 'm certain they're biased which is unfortunate since I do like this site.

I don't understand the rating system at all. Several of us went into it when Bad Buddy was airing but none of it makes much sense - the numbers are, at best, approximations. The popularity rating has some role in it as well as number of watchers. Bad Buddy also had a ton of commenters but the rating just dropped in the end, anyway. If this rating system was for real they would tell you how they get those numbers, but they won't. Try asking an admin. They will never tell you.

8.6 is super good at this point. Most never get that high and their highest rating is usually in the first 2 weeks.

Excellent show! The acting and screenplay really hit home, like this incredible nostalgic feeling. It's this feeling of loneliness and desolation that is just beyond words here. I'm not sure why I like this shy, introverted law student, but he seems like a really nice guy, and he saves the young kid's life so no wonder he's so attractive to young Shin Jae. We're seeing everything through the eyes of this kid so I think we are drawn to KangJi through him even if, in Kang Ji's own words, he's not that popular or likeable [although he works fine for me]. His personality is also very sweet, especially when he takes the kid home to let him sleep in his dormitory.

I'm only distracted by the poor film quality, but I can live with it. I'd rather have a good story and great acting, than perfect cinematography.

Good point. Unfortunately, in Thai dramas there is no consequence for the crimes people commit even if they try to kill someone [like in Tharntype]. It's even true in their lakorns so don't be surprised if this is just brushed off. It's a shame because the character development is really fantastic in this series. I'm trying to think of some other way for Akk to have done this. The blood scene was ok. Stuff like that which would have scared the protestors, but not put their life in danger would have been the better way to go with this. It's going to be chalked up to Akk was in a delusional state - but, hey, when you get that far gone in a cult you need some serious therapy. He also probably needs some jail time as well as being expelled from the university, but that would kind of destroy this whole story. In Tharntype it would have been ok to jail the guy who almost killed someone because he was the villain, but Akk is like one of the good guys, so what do you do here?

Just thinking about Akk - he's not a real deep thinker, but is still highly intelligent. He is easily manipulated because he doesn't really question things like someone with a more philosphical bent. He really needs to have his scholarship, especially in a poverty-stricken country like Thailand, so that is a serious motivating factor, but I think it is actually not as strong as his cult-like following of Chadok. The reason I think that is that Ayan got through every barrier with Akk except his attachment to Chadok. In the beach scene I think if it was just a matter of the scholarship, Ayan would have won Akk over completely.

I think it's obvious that Akk is actually a naturally good person, but that gets subverted by Chadok who is using every tool he has to control Akk. Ayan is setting up a counter to Chadok by using every tool he has in his arsenal, including the threat of exposing Akk as well as appealing to simple ethics. I just hope he doesn't use his love for Akk as a tool as well. You have to think that really complicates their relationship, as if it wasn't complicated enough, lol.

I just really love this character development in this series. It seems to me to be among the very best of any BL [I can only think of 1 or 2 that are comparable, but not more]. Every character seems really multi-dimensional, and alive.

Another great episode. I think it’s safe to say that this is going to be a great series at this point. I like how the writing captures the complex relationship of Akk and Ayan. Ayan has to be a good person – I wondered what his motivations were from the beginning and whether he was more motivated by revenge than by a need to set things right in Akk’s school. In this episode he’s trying to win Akk over from his dark philosophy, and he does it with great intensity [captured so well by Khoatung’s acting]. Akk has to choose between the two poles of philosophy – between Chadok and Ayan, and he’s caught between them in every episode. First captures this quandary so well. Akk can’t let go of his previous life which was dominated by being a pawn of Chadok, but he can see what Ayan is talking about when he points out how Akk could seriously have hurt someone following Chadok’s stupid beliefs. Ayan has those eyes that can just turn people into someone else, they are really intense and magnetic. He combines that with a very strong intellect and commanding speaking style that could sway virtually anyone. The love the two have for each other is always in the background and at various points both are willing to sacrifice their love to achieve their ends, but, at the same time, they really hate to hurt each other. It’s just that they have strong beliefs and they have both decided that they won’t let anyone interfere with their final objectives, but they hadn’t counted on falling in love so it makes their initial impulses to sacrifice anyone that gets in their way much more difficult. The kissing scene after Ayan has his dream is just beautiful because it captures him in a moment of weakness where he can finally give in to his desire for Akk, and it brings out Akk’s natural tenderness which is always near the surface beneath his tough exterior. This relationship is just so convoluted, mysterious, sexy, and passionate – you just have to love it. Great directing, script writing, and acting this episode.

This carries over to the second couple as well. Neo and Louis are really doing just as good a job in this really very sweet relationship, and it could be the focus of a really good BL on its own. The tension between the stepfather and Louis’ character is done wonderfully. I also like how Neo's character is struggling coming out, and he is really capturing that struggle as well as anyone I’ve seen in BL’s or gay dramas.

This is just so messy it’s gotta be real. I love this show for its unvarnished look not just at the BL world, but the movie industry in general. What a whirlwind of evil Gus had to endure, and it was so sudden. The ending was preceded by a crescendo of petty bickering and backstabbing, till the band-aid was ripped off completely. This had more conflict than 10 BL’s put together with their limp use of cliché jealousy tropes, and it is not even close to being done as far as we can tell by the previews. Bew should just run for the hills and go back to being a farm boy, or whatever he did before. I’ll be amazed how they pull him back in into the biz. At this point he either has to take in the evil and become one of them to some degree, or he has to go into a totally delusional state. I hope he just runs away. The BL industry is probably not this bad, but there are some instances where it is, as can be seen by the scandals we know about. There are some very, very aggressive managers like the ones from the Saint/Perth scandal, and these two play the conniving, unscrupulous ones to the hilt. Their love of manipulating people and demeaning them to get what they want was portrayed so vividly here – it’s like looking into an abyss reminiscent of watching fights between guards in a concentration camp.

Gus is also pretty far gone. Who could be part of such a scheme? To fake a relationship, and with an innocent person who doesn’t understand such vile manipulations, has to be nearly impossible to forgive. I would have to see him do some heartfelt penance for several years before I would ever forgive him, myself, but I would find it nearly impossible to ever trust him and how can you have a relationship with no trust? In reality, anyone capable of doing what Gus did to Bew would need years of counseling to overcome his sociopathic behavior.

The other problem is that even among messy relationships, there are hardly any with two monstrous manipulators watching every move you make as a couple, and who would be hell bent on breaking you up if it suited their business plans. I don’t see any hope for this couple and I hope Bew can just get the hell away from this mess. I like the realism of this series but it would be fantasy to have this couple have a happy ending at this point.

I think if they had just dropped 3 episodes a week this series would have been much more appreciated. The filler would have just felt like the bridge between scenes rather than being anything relevant that we had to pay attention to. For those starting this without having to wait 12 weeks I think you'll enjoy this a lot more than most of us. It's strong points really shine through if you don't waste too much time waiting for it.

I really liked it. Even near the end you are never sure if Shin and Minato will get together, and everything is so tantalizing. I feel the final kiss was worth it, and the build up was so sweet. It's not exactly what everyone was predicting with Shin forcing Minato to chase after him. It was Akusa and Sakurako tricking Minato into going after his love - the ending really redeemed a lot of the predictability of the plot. I can't say much for the Asuka and Shuu-kun pairing at the end. It feels like a case of necrophilia, or one of opposites attract [the living and the undead], but I'll just forget about this little sideshow. Isn't Sakurako even a little jealous that she didn't get her hands on that zombie - I guess she's very magnanimous.

Overall this show was fantastic and really was worth the wait. There was a lot of filler but I'm willing to look at it as nice scenery behind the main love story. The wonderful acting, and the burning passion of Shin make this a remarkable show. That kiss at the end was definitely more fiery than your average Japanese BL - I'm very appreciative that they broke out of the mold there. And even if Minato repressed it, the seething passion for Shin was always there and finally bursts out at the end, and I think the incredible intensity of this relationship was one of the best I've ever experienced in a BL.