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I actually feel u. Don't come on me as a stalker if i secretly tell u I went through ur MDL account and found lots of things common with me.

U and me both think very emotionally. I absolutely love ur comment... sometimes when we feel a lot in this depth our minds are not organised to form a structured view of what we are feeling. We can't help but write to get it organised and get over with overwhelming emotions. But it's equally tiring. Feeling and researching each words and meaning behind that. Understanding from characters and story pov is actually very energy consuming. But thanks for doing this.

Sending virtual tea to u😂☕ went very off topic but thanks.

Correct. It's a fictional dynasty but set in real shanzou desert region. Although not true to historical aspect. But i think i smell that they did took lots of inspiration from the historical events across world.

I think most people here are expecting diff. They are expecting this to be a romance oriented drama. But it actually is a political drama with romance as a pinch of salt.

Why can't u make ur comments post in discussion forum? It's like a story that future watcher like me can read while having my morning cup of tea? It's a shame that I am currently not watching this series. But don't want to miss on ur detailed emotional depth comments.

Do a charity work for people like me and post it. 😅

Ig then I will have to suffer till i get in correct energy to take another heavy drama. Sad. Because i really want to watch this drama. 😭

Is this drama lighthearted? I am just too tired after getting bombarded with serious dramas. Need breath of fresh air.

They are part of mango variety show

In ep20, the whole auditing thing has been shown so nicely. Every dots till now are connecting. They used extra trucks to show they require more trucks to dispatch and deliever the less no of tons of goods. They didn't changed no as they knew in auditing if they go to client here chenpeng then they will match records and if no are not matching they will get exposed. Instead they showed they are using more trucks to deliver goods safely but beneath that in those trucks goes goods which were never ordered or money laundering. First it's a about inventory and warehouses to check and calculate the mismatch in current assets of huoyun logistics. Then they said about products and suppliers that how procedures were not thoroughly followed before any cooperation sacrificing quality of goods they are delievery to actual customers( tu li case). Somehow when they said i am cooperating and u can check warehouses after the project lead handed the files to auditee before conclusion of investigation they re revised it. Then now the investigation is going on fleet level. It's intresting that this show exactly showed how trucks changed or isn't using name plates so as to make them hard to track the trucks. But the ques is how can a truck can be run on road without nameplate? How is this possible? Traffic police can always hunt down. And police here doesn't seem to be involved in their crimes. This will see in later ep. It's interesting.

Somehow, chen yi is playing very smart on surface he is using miao jing's remark that they don't follow procedure to show how he had huoyang logistics are cooperating to both sides. Inside he very cleverly used this tactic to even show zhang bin that he is loyal as zhang bin said this company is doing legal business. So following rules is not an issue. But greater objective is that he check every file miao jing and cen ye will be getting so he gets aware of the risk with each file.

The warehouse and miao jing safety was a careful transactional trade. He gave cen ye the warehouse where problem lies and just wanted to make sure he don't involve miao jing. That's why he was furious why after Convo he still brought miao jing for investigation. But he played along to let her get original logs in the disguise of a "genuine chenpeng delievery issue".

This is the stage where they are open and accepted their love. And both are sacrificing something for this connection. Chen yi sacrifices one can see loudly in drama. But miao jing investigation is also imp in order to free themselves from zhang bin.

Is cen ye having germophobia or ocd or he find chen yi as disgusting? Because first in table dining he used tissue paper to clean the glass he touched and then in office he wiped his hand and dropped his smile after handshaking with him.

What does that mean? Is it rare?

Thank you. That's what I was saying. In real life this kind of behavior is too creepy. This is fiction that's why it's ok. But still they need to deal with it very properly. I have less problem with older younger relationship or employee employee relationship. I have more problem with 17 year age gap. It's huge. Plus when Ai acts cute and childish. To me it becomes more uncomfortable. And that's why I said this drama took the challenge so big. One miscalculation in writing and everything is wrong.

Here, since it's fiction it's interesting to know how they tackle it. But somewhere what I said and u gave me spoiler that Ai will act mature and realise this gap. That's what I want to see.

Idk if i am enjoying it or not. But i am able to watch it. So i will continue watching. Because JBL is not my thing. This is exception. Or maybe this can become a start to finally get me into JBL who knows? Thanks for ur reply and understanding. Good day :)

Hmm. I see. What u said if her character is simply having the emotion same as ep1. I can understand why it came out like that. I am in ep5 so no comments on that part.

While i agree everything u said. I will just say one thing. Calling out surely is not social justice in itself. But it's a path to that. Calling out means something is wrong and it should not be there.

Past trauma give them special social rights? Who came up with this? I think they just understand more when someone is going through same situation. Social right is equal and it's given to everyone equally. Whats with more and not more? It's kind of violation of the core concept of social justice itself. Social justice says everyone should be equal and treated equal. I don't know this. Never read when I was reading constitution or any international justice forums not even in UN fora.

While u approach drama for diff reason. I approach drama like this solely because it helps me in revising and getting more understanding of what and how along with its effects to understand administration. So i treat every political drama as s case study to supplement my studies.

But i get ur pov. Thanks for sharing ur thoughts. I will keep in mind the 2*2=4 but not still not 3D concept. I will steal this to write it in my essay. If u haven't patented it. 😅😂

Happy weekend :)

Hmm. I see. Thankfully i stopped at ep3. Because I was actually trying to get over with the aftereffects of another drama. Now that it's Friday night. I am off work and finally i can watch this drama while having supper. Hehehe. Paradise i am craving.
Thank you will rewatch from ep1.
Happy weekend.

Huh? Girl. U can't pinpoint everything I get it. It starts at ep4. I got ur message. I watched till ep3. I will keep ur points about those moments in my mind when I will watch.

I never completed this series in the first place. Yes watched lots of yt shots so i agree on that. I never said i rewatched multiple times.

And so what? Whether i doomscroll or not. it's my life. I don't have an attention span of 30sec. I have watched and still watching more complex stories than this. Those are definitely not netflix dramas. U don't need to be rude about that. As i said i n my post i genuinely asked.

If u can't stand people with diff opinion. Ur problem. If someone is genuinely trying to watch a drama without any prejudice and have some doubt then i don't see any problem with me here.

😅 . Well i watched till ep5. And while watching further ep i will take ur criticism in consideration .Because ur criticism makes sense to me as someone who is deeply interested in politics and administration.

But as a person who didn't watched till that ep if i go through ur points. Somewhere i think it makes sense if think differently. Allow me to explain.

For point 3. What emperor lacks? An institution that investigate matters and at the same time have the authority to serve justice. Emperor already has people who secretly conducts investigation and envoy of customs i.e. Shen. His power is to handle customs giving him power to understand the linkages of arms from? How? Who? Where? Why? But that's all to it. Other companions of emperor clearly can find out things he wanted to know but they lack the power to act on it as emperor himself is bound. Plus they are not institutionalised so they lack accountability and people's trust that comes with it.
By, giving meng ting hui this position of new head emperor has tackled lot of things.
One he already know meng ting hui is capable of investigation from Shazou case.
Second he know he can trust her as she is truly seeking justice and want to change the system aiding him perfect blade for him.
This is my assumption i think emperor thought intelligence bureau head is corrupted or not with him. So he want to plant meng ting hui whom he trust there.
Three, emperor believes her that she will utilise her power as the institution and people will trust her more. And let's not forget, she is the first court official so women naturally can come to her which was earlier little bit restrained as sometimes women better want to go to another women to share problem. Plus let's not forget most ministers show patriarchal concept like chancellor xu who think women can't handle court and state matters. So this is proving them wrong.
Four, meng ting hui she can personally investigate cases with full power of hers as an institution whatever his majesty wants. As she is his person( not romantic but an aide) helping her counter corruption in court.

4th point. It shows that emperor wants meng ting hui to have a institution from scratch so that there are no moles. It doesn't assure new institution will not have but it also proves my 3point theory and maybe emperor trust no one in that institution. That's why. I am saying MAYBE.

5th point. Agreed. Intelligence bureau is not only mind work. One should know marital arts and one of the assistants should have. I will take this as criticism in writing.

6th point. Hmm. Idk. Why would anyone intelligence bureau will need its own special forces? I think inspiration here is from real world how these institutions work. Don't intelligence bureau keep people well versed with both mind and arms and in case of cases requiring high military power or any military power they go for taking help from state or central police or national defence army in worst spy cases. Plus, emperor will never want to give military power to sn institution there is always a chance of coup. Warlords are diff. They go to diff areas and they have land, they pay taxes and pledge loyalty to king and in exchange they keep labourers or army. But that concept is with people who have lands or governer of military base. Yes, ministry of war can have separate army. But why a intelligence bureau. I am not sure of this.

This is low production drama . Most of the scenes are shooted using green screen and choppy editing. The dynamics between two leads hasnt started yet. They are friends for now.

U feeling everything moving fast and unable to pull urself in the story is ur opinion. No comments on that. For me I didn't felt like that.

About younger i am not sure. But aunt??? I didn't felt that. Again ur opinion. No comments.

What you are looking for in this drama that decides if u like it or not. If u are looking for romance then it will not hit u like other historical cdramas. But if u are looking into feminist FL then yes it will serve u. The focus is FL and how she tackles court politics and corruption and less of romance. Happy watching

So finally I have read all reviews. The drama stopped airing. I can finally rewatch or watch whatever and wherever i left. I just want one help from people who loved this drama so much.

Tell me what should I keep in mind as to understand when and how drama they are shooting is mixing their own real feelings with each other. I didn't understood as ZX and ZZ screentime was so less for me to establish the connection between two stories. I genuinely need a tip.

Ep19, chen yi is just too sacrificing. He gave his billiards coaching centre for his friend. I liked the contrast show showed between miao jing's mother and chen yi's friends gf mother. Sometimes i wonder only if miao jing's mother loved her more and her happiness more than money. That would be so good. I am not sure but isn't this whole office situation now comes under conflict of interest? But that's fine as the motive of chen yi is to protect miao jing. So far i liked the development of romance. Kang An is such a pure person. In the balcony there were two people who are advising each other to not hurt themselves but they are scarred by the past. Kang An actually sees chen yi as his family even giving spare key. I don't think he has ever blamed chen yi for whatever happened to Wen. I actually want to know more when this chen yi past will come into light? Which ep?

Well. I am ok with auditing thing till now. As if i see writers are thinking to give the control or u can say closure to whatever happened in past by destroying zhang bin from their own hands instead of them hearing zhang bin got destroyed and they moved on. Miao jing actually raised good points regarding auditing. But when just when chen yi's past will come into light?

I am little bit confused by ur comment. U clearly laid out everything I so far understood in this drama. But even after that meng ting hui seems 2D to u? I don't understand what exactly u are expecting from her character. Because from my pov if you have character depth and good acting to convey that I don't feel any character as 2D. Maybe ur point will help me understand.

The brazen and arrogant quality of meng ting hui is that supposed to come as cute? I mean yes some drama do that. But i actually thought differently. Meng ting hui outspoken character to even emperor came out to be a harsh truth she speaks in front of him. It was never meant to be cute as per me. It was more of her ability to speak without fear is what I thought emperor found it nice.

Maybe u can enlighten me. It's interesting actually that despite understanding the story clearly with same understanding of characters, how u approach and develop ur critique is very much diff from mine. I like it.

Runtime is short? 40 min 12 ep drama no it's not. U can always extend the no of ep is story requires. Yes u can say then what about budget. Simple. If there is any( i am emphasizing IF) scenes that contributes less to the plot then make them cut.

What the op is saying is actually valid. Even one who loved the show it's because one is more invested in feng chi and gao zhun and not ZX and ZZ. Even when drama was airing all I could see was the comments on FC and GZ...they sure represent the blur lines between drama they were filming and reality. But i still felt along with OP that we got little time as so understand how and when they develop feelings for each other. Getting confused with whether u are actually in love or just confusing with characters of GZ and FC is what I see as ques this drama is trying to resolve and they spent max time there. Not how ZX and ZZ fell in love. I can understand about ZX as he was already having deep impression about ZZ during his supporting/ double roles. But ZZ? No. But this drama actually handled very well the concept of confusion of both reality and fiction and how actually ZZ was not able to understand his own sexuality.

Half way through ep5, and my chest feels so heavy and eyes being teary. I feel for Meng Ting hui. When she saw results and her name was not there and when suddenly everything around her blurred as if she can't understand what happened and what now? It's like the entire life the thing that give her purpose is just gone. She acts like let's eat food and although hurt is visible in her eyes she remained calm. A calmness that something inside her is broken. So she can't do anything but to say let's eat food to divert mind. Her approach is like lots of people are giving exam and those all are top talents. She didn't even thought that someone used malpractice to deliberately not let her pass. Because the noise from the break of glass within her heart is so loud that it defeaned her mind. Which is exactly one feel. A person like fu zhi is someone who is actually required to give support to meng ting hui in this situation. I am loving their sisterhood. They care and protect each other. See future with each other. This whole feelings just hits like a home. It reminds me of my past self. I see myself in meng ting hui. This drama has became less of a drama but a show where I see myself in FL and I just can't help but root for her, care and worry for her. Although she is a fictional character in fictional world. I wish her nothing but happiness and the way she can still pursue her dream. Somewhere I feel if she will let her dream to protect others through an court offical position something deep inside my heart will heal. I got too personal. But yes. I feel deeply for both meng ting hui and fu zhi( the one who has s very simple dream of open her bofang house in the entire ning empire and just share life with meng ting hui. Capital mean nothing to her. It's the companionship of ming ting hui that means to her. That's why she is ready to follow her everywhere) . A bond like Meng Ting hui and fu zhi is special. It's a reminder if someone like fu zhi is present in ur life then always cherish her and not to take her care for granted. Fu zhi is so lovable. Having a friend like fu zhi is blessing.