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I never said i catched up till latest ep. Yes I haven't mentioned explicitly in my comment. I will give that to u that missing that context can create this misunderstanding. But it still doesn't make my point wrong. If someone approach u after they saw u using adult site it does sound creep. Does that person aware that he is liked by that person from before? No.

Actually u are very wrong. I am the person who only looks into emotional depth in characters and story. For me only physical relationship is superficial. I value emotional connection over everything. So this pov doesn't apply to me.

Are we watching the same series? Yes. We are. That's why I said this drama has taken a lot bigger challenge to explore the 17 year age gap. It's hard to handle it properly they can only show some or one subset of the issue that arises from this huge age gap. And that's why I said the show needs to explore and handle it with care. No where in my comments i used physical remarks about there relationship. That is enough to tell u that I am not approaching this drama from physical relationship pov. But u cannot deny the fact that for hisaki this relationship started from physical intimacy as it's foundation. And from ep1 pov until u mentioned okumi also started from that. So i am not where wrong here.

And i exactly know that people struggle to first understand then accept that they are gay. And then come out. Ur point and my understanding itself proves that one passionate night can never resolve the dilemma inside a person who is struggling this thought. It takes time. Before saying " i might fall for u" in ep2( haven't completed yet) one needs to be first sure that ok i am not straight. It's not easy to accept because even understanding is not easy. Forget about some people fight their own mental thoughts. Even more so coming out is more hard. That's why I strongly believe that one night can never resolve these inner conflicts. U can say that this drama doesn't explore that part because it's not it's main focus. Plus it's a heavy topic and serious topic that it's hard to show with other aspects this drama is trying to show in just 13-15 min.

Not everytime ur pov and opinion will match mine and vice versa but it doesn't mean i am only focusing on physical relationship. Because I did said this drama is trying to explore one of the subset of issue age gap relationship brings. No where I mentioned physical intimacy as remarks to define their relationship.

PS- I give u benefit of doubt that missing context of stating ep no till I watched can genuinely make someone think like this so I will edit my comment to include ep1. I am stating explicitly in the comment so as to know others neither u nor me knew the whole context of each other. And this Convo happened by keeping that as pov.

God. This drama is so heavy. My heart cries for su lin. Why would Ma Na and others will just bully and beat her just for a role? I hope all not only Ma Na but all gets their karma.

They don't say when they are together. They just understand each other that we both love each other so they treat each other sincerely. That's the beauty of their relationship

Here i think they have exaggerated expressions because this show is setting the tone of rom com wrapped in sexiness.

Imagine a show dealing with serious topics like in this one but instead the focus is not dealing with those topics but romance as to how u overcome that. One has to set the tone as comic in nature to tone down the seriousness of these topics. That's why u will see in this show they are not trying to address the actual issue with age gap but focusing more on why u treat me as a child which is a subset of the age gap relationship. Plus this is mini drama. Never ever expect any mini drama to deal with any topic with seriousness. They just can't the timespan don't allow them.

Plus I think to expect this much from a mini drama is itself wrong as the objective of mini drama is to give u dopamine and guilty pleasure. Or use tropes which are cringy but enough entertaining to not make u drop the drama. With this format u just can't serve the story in a way u are expecting.

Also, idk somehow exaggerated expressions has always been considered as comic. Microexpressions works most in long dramas or with full length dramas or drama where the storytelling is mature and serious in nature or when character itself is not vocal.

Other than that i get u and ur points. I also feel same.

I think this story touched the issue which is a social stigma( that huge age gap) and gave little to no bg of characters...it's a challenge they are taking which is hard to handle properly in 13-15 min drama series. That huge age gap needs lots of work.

What's more is that Japan do believe in "kawai" culture and baby voice a lot like lots of East Asian countries. So this is not shocking. Plus, okumi is particularly interested in hisaki because he found him cute. So it's obvious he will treat him like a child.

But what hisaki is saying. Don't treat me as child. We are having a relationship and we need to be equal in terms of how we see each other. We both are mature adults and see me as ur partner. Which is a bigger point hisaki is putting in the table. That's why this huge age gap is generally doesn't work on real life in most of the cases. It's hard to be on same level emotionally, practically, logically.

Ep1,I think okumi is very creepy. Imagine someone saw you scrolling in the adult site in metro and then he is particularly interested in asking you why u were scrolling and once u know u propose the idea of sleeping with them. I know that was mutual consent but the way okumi showed interest in hisaki just after knowing what site he is scrolling and what he is interested in then giving him a creepy smile( no one can convince me that it's a genuine smile it's not) is somewhat weird. Maybe this is one of the time when the story is going from lust to love.

Also i think that's the problem with short 13-15 min mini dramas that story moves so fast that u don't know why and how it's happening. Like hisaki, he is not interested in men but somehow after one time he is saying he can fall in love with okumi. It's just too fast for me.

Plus 17 year age gap i don't think it's an issue if they no one is minor. But this huge age gap is uncomfortable. While it's not wrong. But idk how it works. The emotional and psychological differences will be huge. The whole how to see and approach world and situation is too huge. I guess this story then has to deal with these challenges so as to be on same page which i don't think this story deals with it. But the ques is in that case can only physical attraction as foundation and progression of their relationship enough so as to establish a long term commitment relationship?

PS- okumi needs to stop smiling that creepy. ( My opinion i find it creepy simple)

That's literally half of the drama. Considering it started seriously at ep15-16. They need to show how all these are imp for this plot. Otherwise it would make sense if people are saying lot of auditing thing.

I am in ep19 and I think this series having 32 ep is the biggest challenge for me to complete. Don't get me wrong. I love this drama a lot. But considering my history with modern cdrama 32 ep is too long for me when sometimes plot is actually moving a lot is happening but still it's not hitting dopamine level like how for earlier ep i used to wake up early before my job just to see one ep. But now that reward dopamine is somehow not present. But i will complete it. Am fully committed to this drama.

😂😂 looks like lot has happened. Considering I am still at ep4 i have to personally catch up on all episodes to see this.

Somehow we have moved from not being pretty, to not respecting king to this.

True. Sometimes I forget that media exist to leave a deep impact on u. I do have some problems with this series but the impression and impact it left on me is much more than any dramas has ever left. I think last time I cried this much in Covid times when I was watching Naruto or TTEOTM( straight drama).

Some media just exist to make u feel that u too are human and it's ok to cry for characters and story even if it's fictional. Maybe somewhere i am still wanting same impact on me which i am not getting in any other BL drama rn. Maybe that's the reason i am still here lurking and talking this much. Thanks i was able to sort my feelings in my head after reading ur comment that it's ok to love what u love even if others see lots of flaws including myself in it. Afterall sometimes we should let our heart rule instead of mind. Thank you.

While i am agreeing with you on some points because I watched earlier ep and then put on hold. I had the same questions. But still ig this drama got high ratings or loved by people because first although it's not too good but not too bad. Plus they served new plot..which is drama within drama while it's not a new concept but this concept was first shown in this drama in entire bl genre. Something new in bl genre than usual high school, suspense thriller or toxic drama approach.

If u see in reviews as well. That's what they are praising a lot. Maybe I have watched lots of dramas revolving this concept i didn't found it anything new and exciting.

That's why I think I need to approach this drama with fresh mind with no biasedness or prejudice. But something about it in earlier ep i actually didn't felt connected with ZZ and ZX. But seeing this high rating, i think i need to give this drama another chance.

No hate to actors. But i can't watch any drama without plot for any actor. Idc about anyone's gege, oppa, phi. Idc about anyone's cuteness or handsomeness. Serve me plot and i am all urs. Apart from that yes acting. But i am not fan of their acting. It's average for me. But ig in thai drama average acting is also good acting.

But is it normal to like a drama this much even with all flaws? That even till now I am lurking here. 😂

Experiencing this for the first time in my life. So kinda confused and feeling weird.

So I can skip. Please wake me up once story starts moving. Because at ep6 getting to know his origin when it's not mystery or whatsoever plus didn't they already explained in ep1 the wolf god thing...😊

Ep7- phasta got to know he is pregnant
Ep8- lovey dovey scenes
Ep9- problems with pregnancy and delivery
Ep10- delievery of baby boy. Because somehow in Omegaverse always Males born. Not females.

This is my prediction if it differs from that in any good way. Let me know.

Someone please confirm if finally plot is plotting or not?

Ep18, and a lot has happened. The scene where chen yi and miao jing was riding bike with high speed, it's like they don't have fear of speed and risky things as life has already mastered them at that. What follows is miao jing's attempt to close the gap by getting to know how much chen yi has suffered wheh she was away. The scene where chen yi told miao jing " ask me whatever u want to know just don't investigate zhang bin and logistics company." And she said I don't want to ask anything today I want u to sleep properly and then she gently tried to make chen yi's furrowed expression while sleeping smoothen. This is peak care anyone can give.

Then we had theatre scene one must hear the lines of that play as it tells miao jing and chen yi's story. " The drifting clouds are blown away, i climb the flower steps and see the full moon,my heart longs to linger and speak with him, but the rules were set long ago, i must not stay any longer, you climbed over the wall, get back to the camp, do not forget my heartfelt devotion". These lines tells the story of them before separation. That how miao jing has to leave to protect her as that was the rule that was set even without her consent and as if she is asking quietly all that time to not forget her devotion for chen yi she had. Like she is complaining to her lover just like in theatre play.
Then they said "after six years apart, my love has never changed.it winds around my heart, binding us together. This sword is only for my beloved, your heart, like mine, remains unchanged, together hand in hand, together for life" like it's miao jing acknowledging their relationship that they both still love each other and the promise and dream they saw 6 years ago to share all good and bad together for lifetime it still remains unchanged.

The whole Convo between chen yi and zhang bin is more like threat just handled very diplomatically by using metaphors of fish. That how zhang bin thought he fed chen yi so that he stays loyal to him but he is getting smarter. Then he very cleverly brought the Convo that how he trust chen yi ( which he don't) and indirectly threaten to harm miao jing( as someone new in his life) to get chen yi investigate who is leaking the info about his logistics company and again bringing onboard in his dirty business by hiring him to his company. Chen yi took the clue and that's why he agreed again to do something that he wants to stay away just to protect miao jing. When he knows if this time something wrong happen he can actually loose miao jing and he is afraid that he lacks power from stop happening that considering how big zhang bin is.

Apart from chen yi coming to the rescue of tuli and her son. And while starting of jealous era of chen yi from cen ye and miao jing. I guess we are forgetting that even though cen ye has/ had feelings for miao jing. He is very professional when it comes to work. He understood that there is clear misalignment within team and it can impact company and this project. The project leader trying to get info out of miao jing but failed to do so. But he still is like a snake in his house. Killing his own babies.

When it comes to auditing, it's a key that before auditing team completes the audit and reach conclusion the financial records, cash ledgers and tax returns should not handed over again to auditee as they can always tamper the data in the name of review and that project lead did exactly that. Plus cen ye didn't shy away to call out miao jing about missing gross margin formula( an indicator used to measure or check the health of company and identifying any frauds, scams by using raw data) and to avoid blame game as project leader was saying he did gave all raw data from inventory( meaning whether couriers and goods are matching shipment orders or not) to miao jing for consolidation and use metrics to complete her reports. But we all saw that how cen ye don't trust project leader and how miao jing was also investigating in inventory and fleet areas. So basically from auditing purpose the team is in misalignment and they need to again do thorough reinvestigation and report preparation before green pass that this logistics company is good to go for ipo and is credible to worth investing in with no scams.

Deep into auditing terms:-
It looks like drama references The "Ghost Fleet" and fake revenue to move smuggled goods or hide dirty money by creating fake shipping orders. like we saw in earlier ep that one of courier was saying suddenly how they are getting more boxes to pack and deliever.

If their revenue is spiking but their real fuel costs, driver payroll, and truck maintenance aren't matching up, their gross margin will look ridiculously high or unnatural. Exposing scam.

Then we have seen how tuli was getting cheap materials. Zhang Bin's operation labels crates as low-value, legal goods on the manifest to pay minimal tariffs or bypass heavy border inspections, while secretly transporting smuggled goods underneath that. All these to bypass custom duties and heavy tax paying.

Wow. I really really enjoyed reading ur comment. I watched the video u shared and i can't help but to do three things.
1. Appreciate and admire as to how cdramas are portraying such cultural exchange and realism with the world. I didn't even knew that Shazou( i always forget name) is actually a real place in China. I thought along with fictional dynasty this city is also fictional. Plus the naan and cuisine that was shown in video i never knew its preparation and cooking is almost same as Indian naan but also diff as shown and told by the guy Flo in video. Even those thread work in thin paper or net sheet as we see in drama is so same. But ig the heavy food makes sense as u need energy to survive in that vast desert. Also the Han empire i recently only googled or came accross this dynasty name while searching for salt and iron monopolisation and trade that somehow i discovered while watching and surfing this drama. And I got to know it's located very near to Shazou so quiet like story linkage. I am appreciating this drama more.

2. I remembered a lot of concepts after watching this video and ur comment. I only read about yardans, sand dunes ,attrition and abrasion but in video that was reflected. Somewhere i can't help but just compare to the desert in my country. In my country i have only seen one hump camels but i never knew even in China we can find double humped camels. Also camel lengths are small than i have seen in my country.

3. This whole Convo made the girl in me awaken so as to get the motivation to study geography again tomorrow morning 😂 although my fav subject but it's eating dust for so long.

But sandflies are so dangerous. And i understand about whole flight situation. In my country before summer when strong winds comes from West Asia all the way to carry the sand from the desert located in west of my country. Even me who is living in east has to close the doors. We avoid going out that time otherwise due to hot and sandy winds people actually die. Can't imagine the situation when stuck in mild or intense sandstorm..

That's where ig i appreciate green screen. It's so deadly to shoot there with precautions it asks for lots of money and safety. Although real shooting places are always appreciated but this is far too dangerous.

Thank you. It was a nice exchange of comments and ideas. It's been long i have enjoyed talking this much.

Idk. Not yet started. I am still at nanyang mystery. 😂 Thriller is not my genre. But i heard it's doing extremely well. Its heat index surpassed 10,000 in first day only. So it's a hit. Plus it was most anticipated drama. U can skip season 1 of mystic nine and directly go for season 2. I will join much later on that. 😂😂😂😂

Mystic nine and genius gf. Both u can try if u are fan of thriller and modern romance respectively

I can't survive past 2nd ep. I really admire ur patience. But i did saw in parts and skipping. Everytime I want them to discuss about relationship and whole concept of how they themselves ( i.e. show) decided to explore how fated mates are bound to meet and u just can't control and loose ur ability to think and act, how they are bound to love and face life and death situation of omegaverse. Not to mention the greed and power hungry people of wanting to produce enigma and dominate the omegaverse world was left so scattered and not well handled. I understand they explored something new like respecting consent in omegaverse but come on move on from that. All i saw from main cp is too much rely on NC scenes which for some reasons felt flat. I thought that's how omegaverse is, like animals but no. It just lack emotions. Even I can ignore plot holes rn reason being lot of only serious shows are airing and I really wanted to watch something on brain rot level. But this is even worse than that. Plus too much side character introduction i mean why u want to introduce those characters if u don't even explore the fights yes the normal ABO fights with power. I just can't help but to remember even in ABO desire it's not always about fights but they did showed how their powers are superior than others. Here the only scene where i felt little bit of showing pheromone and scent thing dominant to win and surrender is when nakhun carried phatsa during bond fever. They actually could have sticked to one basic concept of ABO world and revolve the story around it and it would still be better than this. It has elements here and there but it never took the form of storytelling or serving the plot because looks like the script writer just named the series "Knot" and forget about it. Even acting wise i liked oat emotional breakdown but that's there all to it. I was really excited for this but looks like all i can get from this drama is disappointment.