It's understandable that this guy is getting a lot of hate, and well deserved in my opinion BUT a lot of people are forgetting that age of consent is NOT the same as the age of majority. So even if it is proven that KSH did date KSR when she was 15, by SK law at that time, he did nothing criminal or illegal and therefore not punishable.
If using the Age of Majority of 19, at that time, then yes she was a minor, BUT in SK pre-2020, 13 year olds can consent to sex though they cannot vote etc. Only time that he can be convicted is if there's irrefutable fact that he took her by force/rape, but if they are indeed dating for as long as others claim (6 years) it will be harder for them to prove that she was raped, especially if the family knew of their relationship, or that she didn't file rape charges against him while she was still alive.
I came from a country where the age of consent was 12 for the longest time, and I believe that is too young to make decisions to have sex with someone, especially with a significant age gap because they can be swayed without them knowing. Although I believe there should be exceptions to the rule like Romeo and Juliet laws that some countries put in place if the age of consent is this low. Governments and courts will not have enough resources to charge and convict every 12 or 13 year old who decide to have sexual relations with another 12 or 13 year old. So the Romeo and Juliet exemption (usually 2 years) is reasonable. Unless of course there's no consent from one of the parties.
Sexual assault in a lot of Western countries are already hard to prove in most cases, with no guarantees of the victim winning if a complaint was filed. How much more in a conservative country where misogyny is alive and well. If it wasn't for the #Metoo movement gaining momentum in recent years, many instances of rape or sexual assault will go unnoticed and unreported. And in KSH, the allegations are not even of SA, but the dating of a minor who is above the age of consent at that time.
If Seungri can walk away with 18 months after being charged with so many things including operating a prostitution ring, I'm not seeing the likelihood of KSH ever seeing the walls of a jail cell.
So the best we can do is BOYCOTT all his projects, including the one he's currently working on. RAIL against Disney for not dropping him out of his new show. LAMBAST him on multiple SocMed platforms. BRING awareness to his past actions and indecencies. Such as bleeding someone who is already down on her luck, pushing her further down into a hell hole, instead of helping her in her distress.KSR's drinking is a cry for help, a cry for attention not for money, but for someone to just be by her side and he was not.
Even if he didn't want to do anything with her romantically, the right thing to do is to help her in other ways. Like provide mental health support or at least, do not ask her for money that they know she cannot ever pay back. .That only aggravated her distress.
Although we don't know all the facts of the story, like on the flip side she could be emotionally blackmailing him, we will never know. There's always 2 sides to a story and since one side is already buried 6 feet under, KSH's agency which he owns, have all the resources to change the narrative. It's up to us to separate the chaff from the wheat.
Still all this is crazy..like KSH had everything: 100s of millions of dollars, unparalleled fame, countless awards,…
Seungri only got 18 months jail time for doing so much more than KSH. Even if they proved that he did start dating KSR when she was 15, Sadly, he won't be seeing the walls of a jail cell as this is not a punishable crime in SK. . Pre-2020, the age of consent in South Korea is 13. So technically, in the eyes of SK law, they are not doing anything illegal. in fact, there's a famous case in 2017 where a 42 old man is found NOT guilty for having sexual relations with a 15-year old based on the fact that apparently she consented. So for them, they see nothing wrong with this. Only in 2020, did SK raise the age of consent from 13 to 16. One of the clause in Current SK law states that even If you are over 16 years but under 19 years old, then it is not a crime to have sex with a person who is over 13 but under 16 years old. Where I come from, the age of consent was 12 for the longest time until a few years ago. 12!!!! Like I was still playing with Barbies when I was 12, let alone have a relationship with a grown-ass man! This is not the 1800s where child brides were common, so disgusting.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least make him go broke.
Even if they proved that he did start dating KSR when she was 15, Sadly, he won't be seeing the walls of a jail…
Exactly. I was a fan of Kim Hyun Joong before the assault case came to light, but even after all the evidence , bruises etc. They merely brushed it off as accidental play fighting. They were more critical of the ex being a money grabber etc, that she faked testimony etc etc, pressure her to withdraw her lawsuit. It was such a mess and KHJ just walked away with a small fine and continued to tour and be in shows, although not as popular as he once was in his peak. Maybe the blow to KSH will not be so detrimental as to lose his livelihood, but hoping its hard enough that it will impact his perception that producers will think twice casting him in any shows. Just feel sorry for the costars in his new drama. If the producer doesn't kick him out, I hope that the cast will be brave enough to disassociate themselves from KSH.
Even if they proved that he did start dating KSR when she was 15, Sadly, he won't be seeing the walls of a jail…
You never know, even people who were once rich can topple over. Fortunes can be reversed. If he was dropped from most endorsements and had to pay fines for breaking contracts, PLUS get sued by the family, he will be spending all that money he has left, trying to salvage his insignificant life.
What are your thoughts on the statement release by his side this morning? I must say his lawyers aren’t that…
Even if they proved that he did start dating KSR when she was 15, Sadly, he won't be seeing the walls of a jail cell as this is not a punishable crime in SK. . Pre-2020, the age of consent in South Korea is 13. So technically, in the eyes of SK law, they are not doing anything illegal. in fact, there's a famous case in 2017 where a 42 old man is found NOT guilty for having sexual relations with a 15-year old based on the fact that apparently she consented. So for them, they see nothing wrong with this. Only in 2020, did SK raise the age of consent from 13 to 16. One of the clause in Current SK law states that even If you are over 16 years but under 19 years old, then it is not a crime to have sex with a person who is over 13 but under 16 years old. Where I come from, the age of consent was 12 for the longest time until a few years ago. 12!!!! Like I was still playing with Barbies when I was 12, let alone have a relationship with a grown-ass man! This is not the 1800s where child brides were common, so disgusting.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least make him go broke.
Exactly. And there will be more victims if we don't take him down.
Exactly. Sadly, he won't be seeing the walls of a jail cell as this is not a punishable crime in SK. . Pre-2020, the age of consent in South Korea is 13. So technically, in the eyes of SK law, they are not doing anything illegal. in fact, there's a famous case in 2017 where a 42 old man is found NOT guilty for having sexual relations with a 15-year old based on the fact that apparently she consented. So for them, they see nothing wrong with this. Only in 2020, did SK raise the age of consent from 13 to 16. One of the clause in Current SK law states that even If you are over 16 years but under 19 years old, then it is not a crime to have sex with a person who is over 13 but under 16 years old. Where I come from, the age of consent was 12 for the longest time until a few years ago. 12!!!! Like I was still playing with Barbies when I was 12, let alone have a relationship with a grown-ass man! This is not the 1800s where child brides were common, so disgusting.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least make him go broke.
So after denying multiple times about their dating rumors,,, because there’s all these proofs and evidence now.…
Sadly, he won't be seeing the walls of a jail cell as this is not a punishable crime in SK. . Pre-2020, the age of consent in South Korea is 13. So technically, in the eyes of SK law, they are not doing anything illegal. in fact, there's a famous case in 2017 where a 42 old man is found NOT guilty for having sexual relations with a 15-year old based on the fact that apparently she consented. So for them, they see nothing wrong with this. Only in 2020, did SK raise the age of consent from 13 to 16. One of the clause in Current SK law states that even If you are over 16 years but under 19 years old, then it is not a crime to have sex with a person who is over 13 but under 16 years old. Where I come from, the age of consent was 12 for the longest time until a few years ago. 12!!!! Like I was still playing with Barbies when I was 12, let alone have a relationship with a grown-ass man! This is not the 1800s where child brides were common, so disgusting.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least make him go broke.
Sadly, he won't be seeing the walls of a jail cell as this is not a punishable crime in SK. . Pre-2020, the age of consent in South Korea is 13. So technically, in the eyes of SK law, they are not doing anything illegal. in fact, there's a famous case in 2017 where a 42 old man is found NOT guilty for having sexual relations with a 15-year old based on the fact that apparently she consented. So for them, they see nothing wrong with this. Only in 2020, did SK raise the age of consent from 13 to 16. One of the clause in Current SK law states that even If you are over 16 years but under 19 years old, then it is not a crime to have sex with a person who is over 13 but under 16 years old. Where I come from, the age of consent was 12 for the longest time until a few years ago. 12!!!! Like I was still playing with Barbies when I was 12, let alone have a relationship with a grown-ass man! This is not the 1800s where child brides were common, so disgusting.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least make him go broke.
Here is the English version of the exposed Saeron's text message Oppa, it's Saeron. I got a legal notice... Are…
Most people who have these twisted desires usually try to hide it instead of announcing it. The fact that he doesn't even care what people might think about this , speaks how he perceives himself as invincible and above other people. Unless, this is a poem meant to make him look dark and edgy, it's not getting any brownie points from me.
Mostly the editors are his fans. Someone has written the article and submitted it to the editors; they are not…
Yes, I did feel like that too. I think they are just afraid they may get sued or at the very least, not get paid. I can't believe people are still sending flowers to him on this page. I think the agency is just buying time to use ChatGPT to script their statement, and use fake AI videos to promote KSH.
Absolutely correct! There's no way justice is going to be given under such laws. Trival relationship scandals…
Exactly!!! Even Seungri only got 18 months in jail for operating a prostitution ring , and Kim Hyun Joong got nothing but a fine after brutally assaulting his GF, so I doubt that KSH will even see a jail cell.
That is what I was wondering too. Usually MDL is so quick to post news about any scandal, why they are silent…
Yes, money talks unfortunately. It seems to be that The richer a person is, the less morals they are allowed to have. Or rather, maybe they don't have morals in the first place, that's why they can get rich because they have no qualms of stepping on people's toes or throwing them under the bus, like how KSH did to KSR. He bled her while she's down.
because nothing is known or proven. neitizens like yourself don’t have the right to condemn him until investigation…
Even if there is solid evidence that he did in fact have a relationship with her when she's 15 and he's 27, in the eyes of SK law, he did nothing illegal. Pre-2020, the age of consent in South Korea is 13. In fact, there's a famous case in 2017 where a 42 old man is found NOT guilty for having sexual relations with a 15-year old based on the fact that apparently she consented. So for them, they see nothing wrong with this even if this is YUCK in so many levels.
The only time he can be convicted is if they find evidence that he is complicit in her death, like if he instigated KSR's bullying etc. But unfortunately, bullying (cyber-bullying) is so rampant in SK, that it seems it becomes their national past time. They don't hold these bullies accountable for the suffering of many, including those who committed suicide.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least him make him broke.
Also it would help if international News outlets or even MDL write an article or two about this, but surprisingly it's been quiet here except on this page and his shows. Most likely the editors want to keep a lid on this issue, how misleading. You can see how biased this page is, especially since he was top 10 drama actors of all time here. They should remove him from that ranking, remove the awards or hearts that he's been given.
I don't know why SK media/net is so lenient when it comes to scandals like this while C-net is so quick to wield out the hatchet that even someone taking a picture at a shrine years ago will be cancelled.
I was a big fan of Kim Hyun-joong until the assault case came out and I stopped watching all of his shows and there was still enough support that he could continue touring and be in dramas. Why the fuck this guy wasn't cancelled was beyond me. He didn't even go to jail!!! Most likely he paid off people to get off so lightly and this will happen with KSH as well.
I loathe the fact that, while this POS man may stumble a bit in his career, he most lilkey will bounce back in…
It's not just SK entertainment industry that's at fault here. The whole country operates under different laws and since he's Korean, in South Korea, he will be judged by his country's laws. Pre-2020, the age of consent in South Korea is 13. So technically, in the eyes of SK law, he is not doing anything illegal. in fact, there's a famous case in 2017 where a 42 old man is found NOT guilty for having sexual relations with a 15-year old based on the fact that apparently she consented. So unless they can prove that she DID NOT consent to the relationship, will he be convicted. But alas, the dead cannot talk.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least him make him broke.
Brands or production don't care unless there's any criminal case against him. Before 2020 "Age of Consent" in…
Exactly, most of us are judging him with our international laws, but local laws in SK is different. In fact, there's a famous case in 2017 where a 42 old man is found NOT guilty for having sexual relations with a 15-year old based on the fact that apparently she consented. So for them, they see nothing wrong with this.
The only time he can be convicted is if they find evidence that he is complicit in her death, like if he instigated KSR's bullying etc. But unfortunately, bullying (cyber-bullying) is so rampant in SK, that it seems it becomes their national past time. They don't hold these bullies accountable for the suffering of many, including those who committed suicide.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least him make him broke.
If using the Age of Majority of 19, at that time, then yes she was a minor, BUT in SK pre-2020, 13 year olds can consent to sex though they cannot vote etc. Only time that he can be convicted is if there's irrefutable fact that he took her by force/rape, but if they are indeed dating for as long as others claim (6 years) it will be harder for them to prove that she was raped, especially if the family knew of their relationship, or that she didn't file rape charges against him while she was still alive.
I came from a country where the age of consent was 12 for the longest time, and I believe that is too young to make decisions to have sex with someone, especially with a significant age gap because they can be swayed without them knowing.
Although I believe there should be exceptions to the rule like Romeo and Juliet laws that some countries put in place if the age of consent is this low. Governments and courts will not have enough resources to charge and convict every 12 or 13 year old who decide to have sexual relations with another 12 or 13 year old. So the Romeo and Juliet exemption (usually 2 years) is reasonable. Unless of course there's no consent from one of the parties.
Sexual assault in a lot of Western countries are already hard to prove in most cases, with no guarantees of the victim winning if a complaint was filed. How much more in a conservative country where misogyny is alive and well. If it wasn't for the #Metoo movement gaining momentum in recent years, many instances of rape or sexual assault will go unnoticed and unreported. And in KSH, the allegations are not even of SA, but the dating of a minor who is above the age of consent at that time.
If Seungri can walk away with 18 months after being charged with so many things including operating a prostitution ring, I'm not seeing the likelihood of KSH ever seeing the walls of a jail cell.
So the best we can do is BOYCOTT all his projects, including the one he's currently working on. RAIL against Disney for not dropping him out of his new show. LAMBAST him on multiple SocMed platforms. BRING awareness to his past actions and indecencies. Such as bleeding someone who is already down on her luck, pushing her further down into a hell hole, instead of helping her in her distress.KSR's drinking is a cry for help, a cry for attention not for money, but for someone to just be by her side and he was not.
Even if he didn't want to do anything with her romantically, the right thing to do is to help her in other ways. Like provide mental health support or at least, do not ask her for money that they know she cannot ever pay back. .That only aggravated her distress.
Although we don't know all the facts of the story, like on the flip side she could be emotionally blackmailing him, we will never know. There's always 2 sides to a story and since one side is already buried 6 feet under, KSH's agency which he owns, have all the resources to change the narrative. It's up to us to separate the chaff from the wheat.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least make him go broke.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least make him go broke.
Sadly, he won't be seeing the walls of a jail cell as this is not a punishable crime in SK. . Pre-2020, the age of consent in South Korea is 13. So technically, in the eyes of SK law, they are not doing anything illegal. in fact, there's a famous case in 2017 where a 42 old man is found NOT guilty for having sexual relations with a 15-year old based on the fact that apparently she consented. So for them, they see nothing wrong with this. Only in 2020, did SK raise the age of consent from 13 to 16. One of the clause in Current SK law states that even If you are over 16 years but under 19 years old, then it is not a crime to have sex with a person who is over 13 but under 16 years old. Where I come from, the age of consent was 12 for the longest time until a few years ago. 12!!!! Like I was still playing with Barbies when I was 12, let alone have a relationship with a grown-ass man! This is not the 1800s where child brides were common, so disgusting.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least make him go broke.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least make him go broke.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least make him go broke.
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The only time he can be convicted is if they find evidence that he is complicit in her death, like if he instigated KSR's bullying etc. But unfortunately, bullying (cyber-bullying) is so rampant in SK, that it seems it becomes their national past time. They don't hold these bullies accountable for the suffering of many, including those who committed suicide.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least him make him broke.
Also it would help if international News outlets or even MDL write an article or two about this, but surprisingly it's been quiet here except on this page and his shows. Most likely the editors want to keep a lid on this issue, how misleading. You can see how biased this page is, especially since he was top 10 drama actors of all time here. They should remove him from that ranking, remove the awards or hearts that he's been given.
I don't know why SK media/net is so lenient when it comes to scandals like this while C-net is so quick to wield out the hatchet that even someone taking a picture at a shrine years ago will be cancelled.
I was a big fan of Kim Hyun-joong until the assault case came out and I stopped watching all of his shows and there was still enough support that he could continue touring and be in dramas. Why the fuck this guy wasn't cancelled was beyond me. He didn't even go to jail!!! Most likely he paid off people to get off so lightly and this will happen with KSH as well.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least him make him broke.
The only time he can be convicted is if they find evidence that he is complicit in her death, like if he instigated KSR's bullying etc. But unfortunately, bullying (cyber-bullying) is so rampant in SK, that it seems it becomes their national past time. They don't hold these bullies accountable for the suffering of many, including those who committed suicide.
All we can do is boycott his shows, movies, endorsements, and rile against the companies who associate with him like Disney producing his new show, I think we will get more traction that way, and let the money stop flowing into his bank account. Hit him where it hurts, if he can't go to jail, at least him make him broke.