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I think the 2nd episode kind of shown that he is not completely wrong about Sun Ho. After being let go and told to never do it again etc, he yet again stole money. Everyone has a justification for their wrongdoings. While I could excuse him stealing to save his dad, there is no justification for doing that for the brother's uni. None. It's valid to question if he is willing to commit crimes again, coz he can always find a reason for it.

Sun Ho was just an obnoxious acing like he made one mistake for the sake of his dad, when he knew he stole again for the brother's university. You cannot commit the same crime twice and hide behind the "mistake" excuse.

They are both obnoxious, they are both acting as if they are right and had reason for doing what they done. They both have a massive room for improvement. And I think that's the point of this show. They are now on the opposite sides, but eventually they will meet in the middle.

So some random thoughts after first two episodes:

The good:
😊 Family dynamics. Sun Ho/Seung Bum/dad's scenes are my favorite for sure. Love the scene when Sun Ho confronted the dad saying he does not treat him the same way he treats Seung Bum, and the dad's reply. Love the scene where Seung Bum confronted Sun Ho for not telling him about police university. Sun Ho tries to be the least of a problem for them as possible, hence he does not share, does not asks question etc., while Seung Bum and the dad want him to treat them as he would treat his own family - as for help, get angry, get annoyed if he does not like something, share his plans and ideas. But from the looks of it, we ain't getting more of the family scenes lol
😊 Yoo Dong Man's character. At the moment he sucks, but that's exactly what's fun, coz there is a lot for space to grow. His "ideas" are not evil or bad, but he just makes all the decisions based on emotions and impulse and no reasoning and calculation. He os quick to judge and not able to admit he might be wrong.
😊 Choo Young Woo - don't mind me, I just like ma BL boiz getting roles in bigger productions 🤣
😊 Ending song is a bop!

The bad:
🙃 The romance. Listen... It could work if they did not make Sun Ho "emotionless/passionless" character at the beginning. Make him a teenage boi without any dream, make him fall for Kang Hee and follow her to police university - all of that is fine and believable. But when you deliver me a whole ass scene about how wonders how it feels like to have so much joy, passion and drive for anything, coz he never felt it, and him being passive about literally EVERYTHING... the whole "big love out of the ass" seems ridiculous.
🙃 First half of the first episode - damn it was stupid. The over the top comedy and ridiculous effects... Nah. And it does not even fit the rest of the tone of the episodes. The show is more chill than what first 30 minutes show. The comedy got so much better in episode 2. It's more context driven and chill.

I don't know yet:
🤔Sun Ho's character. They thrown quite a "twist" at the end of episode 2 and I'm not sure how I feel about it. Do I root for him or nah? With what happened I'm kind of on Dong Min's side now with how he treats Sun Ho. Coz at the end of the day, that's how it goes: you will always fine a good excuse for your wrongdoings. There is always a "valid" reason behind it.

"I don't think I can let you go just like that" < to be fair he gave the control to her, coz he said unless she says she will never like him. Basically, he is willing to "give up" if she says it will never happen. But she does not. Coz she liked the thrill Jae Eon gives her, but she also craves stability and more loving shit, that Potato Boy gives.

If Na Bi ends with Jae Eon I will be really disappointed. How about we start telling girls that they do NOT need to put up with countless emotional punching coz tHe GuY MiGHt ChAnGe?

Na Bi should end as a solo act and work on herself. Girl has NO IDEA who she is, what she wants, what she needs, what are her goals. Like... damn. Time out in self-reflection corner is highly needed.

I get it. I dropped a lot of dramas coz I could not get passed the psychological bullshit in them, because of my degree 🤣

And then there is me, who literally blocks any numbers from my brain so I don't even remember them saying 3000 people were fighting and because of that it never felt empty, coz I just assumed: there is a limited number of sect members. 🤣

Also, as for the manpower etc, I am pretty sure they did not have a big budget for it. The CGI and practical effects kind of show how limited the production was...

Production wise this drama is quite flawed, but I think (like me) many people loved it for the writing and characters.

Yeah but for DO it's more than just figuring out his sexuality. He has massive identity crisis even outside of it. For him saying "I don't know, I can't talk about it now, I'm not ready" is something he can't say. It's something easy to say for some people, and not easy for others. DO puts on himself expectations that even other people don't have for him.

Saying he does not know and he needs time is a weakness, and he has no idea how to deal with his own weaknesses and how to deal with people finding them out.

I think that's the problem here, for TK it's just a high school crush problem, for DO it's a complete shift of reality and his perception of who he is, what he wants and how she should act. The sense of self and who he is is being dismantled and he has no idea what to do. And I think TK just does not understand that.

Yeah but attraction and liking someone is not the same. One can be attracted to many people, but it does not mean they like all of them and would date all of them. I think there is difference between these two.

TK is reaaaaaaalllyyyy one sided about his crush on DO. He wants things his way, otherwise he also leave and is disappointed (it's not only on DO to run away from things). TK is not exactly trying to understand things from DO perspective. Now that he sees there is more to DO than being nice and protective and helpful, he keeps getting disappointed and wanting answers Da On is not ready to give.

I might be digging into it too much but:

I am honestly not sure if TK likes DO as a person, or if he just liked his perception of DO and how he treated him. For me it looks like he just likes how he helped TK get out of the shell, taught him how to make friends and be more open. TK seemed to like someone noticing him, paying attention to him and caring for him, rather than liking DO as an individual. If someone else was nice to him like DO was, he might have liked that person instead.

TK technically told DO that he still liked him even after seeing his flaws, but did he really? How he acted in episode 12 does not fit that. DO tried to take one step closer to TK after the rumor when he prepared the notes for TK. That's all he can do at the moment, as he is not as straightforward as TK, and he cares more about what will people say. But TK does not want "one step" he wans everything out in the open and honest. He did not get it, he was disappointed and left. But that insecure and cautious person is DO. I feel like the more of the true DO TK will see, the less strong his feelings will be.

Even his chat with SW, he was remembering how DO was the one to teach him about friendship etc., there was not much about why he liked DO as a person...

Anyway, DO needs to figure shit out, poor boy. I don't think he should be getting himself in a relationship at the moment. Everything is chaotic enough for him as it is...

it's a keychain on the book. If anything we can saw the bracelet is hanging on that pencil, but the focus is for sure on the keychain, and then it's followed by the animation of two hand getting close, one holding key chain. If the end game is DO, they need to fire whoever planned the animation for the outro lol

I don't know. I think that outro is either hinting the end game or just hella bad production aspect 🤣Otherwise it makes no sense to only include the keychain and not one animation with bracelet, which would keep it vague and the "love triangle anything can happen" deal.

Also, the first scene happens 2 years in the future, I guess we can assume it will in that time line point too, so going by that logic, maybe we will see time jump (hopefully not, coz I am not a fan of them).

I also question if TK even likes DO, ot he just "liked" how he helped TK get out of the shell and have a more sociable life with friends. TK technically told DO that he still liked him even after seeing his flaws, but did he? Coz his actions says otherwise. DO took a step forward when he prepared the notes for TK, but TK does not want "one step" he wans everything out in the open and honest, and when he did not get it, he was disappointed and left. Even his chat with SW, he was remembering how DO was the one to teach him about friendship etc., there was not much about why he liked DO as a person.

One more thing, I think there were "hinting" SW being the end game since the beginning with small stuff like "the ones that argue the most like each other the best" etc.

Someone in the comment had this theory and I agree with it: most likely TK will start liking SW, but SW will be blind to it, thinking TK sees him as nothing more than friend so they were dance around each other a little bit.

But yeah, I am pretty sire Shin Woo is the ML. Enemies to lovers, secret crush, dildo in the ass... they have everything going on for them 🤣

Not that anything, but the outro literally tells us who the end game is 🤣
There is no point in discussing it.

Also, Shi Woon is the best boi ever.

well... for me it looks like unhealthy obsession and not a "liking" someone...

The problem is, she wants to date, while Jae Eon does not 🤣
So this pairing is impossible to make them both happy.

I said it many times, but PJE was open about his "lifestyle" only after Na Bi fell for him. Also, that's the thing, even after he said he just wants to be friends with benefits, his actions did not match his words. Him being possessive over her when a new guy is starting to get interested is perfect example.

Also, Na Bi did tell him it's not for her, and she wants to end it. Even with that, he kept going after her 🤣

That said, while at first I could excuse Na Bi deciding to try hooking up with PJE since she was hurt and vulnerable after last relationship, by now it's all on her. They are worth each other, let them stay in the messed up "relationship", and leave others out of it. Potato boi deserves better.

Nabi sucks, don't get me wrong, but she and Jae Eon are pretty much on the same level. He was clear about his intentions only after she fell for him, she told Jae Eon many times that she looks for something else than he does, she "broke up" whatever arrangement they had, and he was the one to seek her out most times when it happened. While I hate her for kissing Jae Eon when she thinks he has a girlfriend, why the heck he did not tell her he ain't have one?

they are both messed up. They should both stay away from relationships for a while and work on themselves as individuals.

I wish you luck.
Hope you will survive hahaha

Well, whenever he should or should not be removed is one conversation, but JTBC has all the right to cut his parts short, never it's right or wrong decision. Actors are liable for their scandals, and if they might negatively affect the project they are part of.

Now, they had to think about many aspects, but especially the money. If they cut his parts short, they might anger some fans. If they keep him in they might anger some fans, no difference here. BUT with keeping him there might be some issues with sponsors of the show etc. So they did what they had to do to save the show.

You can drop it coz they cut him off the project. I would drop it if they kept him in. Perfect example that there is no good way out of it for JTBC.

Well.. viewers have the right to not support an actor who they find not worth said suport.
They had to cut his parts off coz they would loose audience otherwise. I for sure would stop watching if they kept him in. ESPECIALLY taking into consideration the type of character he plays here. It would just leave a bad taste in my mouth.

Also, the production team sign a contract with someone of a good reputation and no scandals. They have the right to cut him off, if the scandal breaks down and it can negatively affect the drama.

If he was cheating for 6 years it's not just a one time mistake, he just a shitty person.

I did, right after I finished episode 5 lol