I would agree with you if it weren't for the plot being a somewhat common BL trope. This feels like some kind…
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond! As before, please let me know if you need me to elaborate further.
I can totally see where you're coming from, but I do still feel like it was leaning into at least BL adjacent territory before they brought in the actual BL-series in the trailer. As per the pilot trailer, it even does appear to be the in-universe reason they end up in that situation in the first place, or at least a part of it. Again, please do not misconstrue this with real life, because that is just fans latching onto authentic moments — this is taking that concept and making it into a scripted thing, if that makes sense. If not necessarily queerbait, it definitely seems to be reliant on fanservice both in-universe and in real life. It just feels kind of dissonant to me, I can't quite explain it. Again, this is the kind of trope we see /in/ BLs.
I don't think they're intending for it to be mocking or harmful, but knowing the amount of discourse that surrounds the BL industry and BL actors in general in real life, it just comes off kind of wrong to me because in the trailer, they clearly do not actually want to do this, but find themselves being forced to because of the case they're working on. It just seems kind of tone deaf to me to be using this kind of plot when I pretty much daily see accusations of "X doesn't want to work with Y" or "they're being forced" when they continuously keep accepting new work together and they repeat time and time again that the previously stated accusations aren't true. Whether intentional or not, AAA appears to be somewhat validating that belief, and I do think that is damaging because it implies BL actors lack autonomy when in fact it is their choice. As I previously mentioned, I have /a lot/ of thought when it comes to this topic, but really it most often boils down to people being unable to see them as people. I am convinced a lot of the people who claim these kinds of things over and over again, have somehow made it through their entire life so far without a single human interaction. It's baffling.
I see some people claim it's mocking fans as well, and while I can definitely see that, it does also feel like an attempt at a silly reference to their real-life fans, but once again, something just feels kind of off with the entire way it's presented. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I am glad it is being worked on, so I choose to stay optimistic for now.
Sorry for the kind of late reply. I needed some time to process your response and wanted to make sure I responded well.
I would agree with you if it weren't for the plot being a somewhat common BL trope. This feels like some kind…
Sorry if anything comes off weird, I'm kind of struggling with articulating myself properly. Please let me know if there's anything you want me to further elaborate on.
I think you're the one that doesn't actually understand what queerbaiting is. I was watching shows like Supernatural and Sherlock for years, and much like those, this is also textbook queerbait, I'm sorry. There is a common misconception that it's purely to attract a queer audience, but that is not the full story; it's also to bait the shippers (who may or may not be queer) into thinking the characters might develop romantic feelings at some point. Think tumblr. Now, tell me, which category does "putting (allegedly) straight characters into gay situations with no intentions of actually following through" fall into? Who do you think is the intended audience?
Now, I'm not saying that SkyNani themselves are queerbait because real people cannot queerbait, and I stand by this. My issues lie purely in the plot in its /current/ state, but I have also heard they are planning to rewrite some things before the full release, so I am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. As it currently stands, it's just odd to me that they'll take a plot with a common BL trope and go "…and in the end they're just friends :)" There are so many other plotlines out there to choose from, and they chose queerbait. You're trying to bring real life into the discussion, but that is irrelevant because this is fiction.
This series also leans into the (in my opinion) dangerous belief some people have that BL actors are uncomfortable with working together and that they're being forced, which I think kind of damages the BL industry. As far as I can tell, more often than not, it is the actors' choice. Especially in Thailand where a lot of the times the pairings are long-term. People rarely take into account the amount of communication that goes on behind the scenes to keep a pairing going for years. I have so many thoughts and opinions about this, but this isn't really the time for that.
As a little anecdote at the end, I'll say that I was watching the lineup with a friend and another friend showed up just as we were watching the AAA pilot trailer and they asked "why are they fighting in sex poses?" which just kind of stuck with me because it was literally their first impression of the series — and that was before we even entered the part of the trailer where they're told to act together in a BL series.
Queerbaiting means intentionally teasing LGBTQ romance to pull in queer audiences, while having zero intention…
I would agree with you if it weren't for the plot being a somewhat common BL trope. This feels like some kind of loophole where they can show SkyNani in intentionally gay moments (fake or not does not matter) and go "haha they're just bros, though". The plot literally feels like BL without making it a BL (not to be confused with chinese bromance AKA censored BLs), and if that's not queerbait, then I don't know what is.
GMMTV moment. It was delayed last week as well, not for this long, but still. I bet it's some intern's responsibility to prepare the premieres, because I refuse to believe they are actually paying someone for this work specifically — but that's just my speculation.
That kind of bad acting they do when it isn’t their fixed pairing is so pathetic that I always laugh when I…
Me when media literacy is too hard :((( It's almost like his character is supposed to be uninterested. You saying Gun's acting is bad in that scene is crazy work. If anyone needs to turn off their "fixed pairing" goggles, it's you, because you clearly cannot see past that.
This sure was... something. It felt kind of weird that we were essentially roleplaying as Segasaki and Asami for majority of the episode. Also, after season 2 of Akasaka being so dragged out, it really was an experience to go through the entirety of Sakuma and Yamase's CHARACTERS' arc in a single episode. It just felt kind of odd.
Hi,I'm new to shows on WeTv and considering subscribing to watch this show in higher quality (and support the…
I'm pretty sure with either subscription, you still have to pay extra for fast track, and even then, fast track is only available on the mobile app. I have the cheapest option and I can still watch VIP content just fine, but maybe it's different depending on where you are in the world.
No, only one episode per week. The “discrepancy” with the day is due to the time difference.
Pretty sure the countdown is for when it airs on TV in Japan. It usually takes a few hours for it to be available on streaming services outside of Japan.
I can totally see where you're coming from, but I do still feel like it was leaning into at least BL adjacent territory before they brought in the actual BL-series in the trailer. As per the pilot trailer, it even does appear to be the in-universe reason they end up in that situation in the first place, or at least a part of it. Again, please do not misconstrue this with real life, because that is just fans latching onto authentic moments — this is taking that concept and making it into a scripted thing, if that makes sense. If not necessarily queerbait, it definitely seems to be reliant on fanservice both in-universe and in real life. It just feels kind of dissonant to me, I can't quite explain it. Again, this is the kind of trope we see /in/ BLs.
I don't think they're intending for it to be mocking or harmful, but knowing the amount of discourse that surrounds the BL industry and BL actors in general in real life, it just comes off kind of wrong to me because in the trailer, they clearly do not actually want to do this, but find themselves being forced to because of the case they're working on. It just seems kind of tone deaf to me to be using this kind of plot when I pretty much daily see accusations of "X doesn't want to work with Y" or "they're being forced" when they continuously keep accepting new work together and they repeat time and time again that the previously stated accusations aren't true. Whether intentional or not, AAA appears to be somewhat validating that belief, and I do think that is damaging because it implies BL actors lack autonomy when in fact it is their choice. As I previously mentioned, I have /a lot/ of thought when it comes to this topic, but really it most often boils down to people being unable to see them as people. I am convinced a lot of the people who claim these kinds of things over and over again, have somehow made it through their entire life so far without a single human interaction. It's baffling.
I see some people claim it's mocking fans as well, and while I can definitely see that, it does also feel like an attempt at a silly reference to their real-life fans, but once again, something just feels kind of off with the entire way it's presented. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I am glad it is being worked on, so I choose to stay optimistic for now.
Sorry for the kind of late reply. I needed some time to process your response and wanted to make sure I responded well.
I think you're the one that doesn't actually understand what queerbaiting is. I was watching shows like Supernatural and Sherlock for years, and much like those, this is also textbook queerbait, I'm sorry. There is a common misconception that it's purely to attract a queer audience, but that is not the full story; it's also to bait the shippers (who may or may not be queer) into thinking the characters might develop romantic feelings at some point. Think tumblr.
Now, tell me, which category does "putting (allegedly) straight characters into gay situations with no intentions of actually following through" fall into? Who do you think is the intended audience?
Now, I'm not saying that SkyNani themselves are queerbait because real people cannot queerbait, and I stand by this. My issues lie purely in the plot in its /current/ state, but I have also heard they are planning to rewrite some things before the full release, so I am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. As it currently stands, it's just odd to me that they'll take a plot with a common BL trope and go "…and in the end they're just friends :)" There are so many other plotlines out there to choose from, and they chose queerbait. You're trying to bring real life into the discussion, but that is irrelevant because this is fiction.
This series also leans into the (in my opinion) dangerous belief some people have that BL actors are uncomfortable with working together and that they're being forced, which I think kind of damages the BL industry. As far as I can tell, more often than not, it is the actors' choice. Especially in Thailand where a lot of the times the pairings are long-term. People rarely take into account the amount of communication that goes on behind the scenes to keep a pairing going for years.
I have so many thoughts and opinions about this, but this isn't really the time for that.
As a little anecdote at the end, I'll say that I was watching the lineup with a friend and another friend showed up just as we were watching the AAA pilot trailer and they asked "why are they fighting in sex poses?" which just kind of stuck with me because it was literally their first impression of the series — and that was before we even entered the part of the trailer where they're told to act together in a BL series.
It's almost like his character is supposed to be uninterested. You saying Gun's acting is bad in that scene is crazy work. If anyone needs to turn off their "fixed pairing" goggles, it's you, because you clearly cannot see past that.
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