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Replying to Ryam Mar 9, 2025
I'm sooo lost 😭 ppl keep saying he was in hidden love but how, I watched it about a year ago and I don't remember…
The actor has changed. Also, there are a couple scenes in the HL novel that weren't in the drama (e.g. HL FL does meet the FF FL, finds out that his roommate is now his gf). The crossover/overlap is more clear if you read both books. It's less clear in the dramas. Either way, both stand alone.
Replying to itsuominagi Mar 9, 2025
Re: Economic StatusI was reqatching HL now to make myself happy because of the heartbreak from the previous TFF…
Yeah I think it's a bit of a fantasy that DJX is that financially secure in his 20s. That's where the romance novel genre comes in lol. I love that novel and the HL drama but it's vaguely defined how DJX can suddenly jump from IT worker with debts to buying a house and starting a business. FF is more realistic about how YF is still having economic insecurities. And lbr it's about gender dynamics in romance. The fantasy of DJX as the ML "requires" him to have wealth.
Replying to trunkenta18 Mar 9, 2025
ok so every romance drama theres a discourse about how the male lead is always unrealistic, which i agree to a…
The unrealistic part is the guy with the peak love-brain romantic personality also being RICH and also being SUPER good looking, and also smart. But if we are just talking about men in a relationship and how they treat their wives/gf... yeah it's low expectations. Guys like this in personality absolutely exist. I've met them. But their partner was selecting them for this personality and prioritizing it over looks and earning potential. The fantasy is that you can have everything perfect, without having to make choices or give anything up. (which is fine! dramas are fantasy)
On The First Frost Mar 9, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
EP28 - SY expressing self-blame for not looking deeper into her reasons... I loved this moment in the novel and am so so happy the drama kept it.
It's not that the novel or the drama is trying to say that SY is a bad person or that he's at fault or any of her suffering. It's the revelation from SY that all that time he fundamentally didn't understand what was going on in her mind and in her private life.

Teenage boy fell head over heels for the beautiful dancer at school and chased her. Gets rejected. And, very naturally for a young man, his pride is deeply wounded. And he buys into the narrative that then everyone in school would have: oh, SY played himself. That pretty admired girl was never serious about him. How embarrassing.

He never notices the depth of her pain as her family life becomes a horror show and then on Admissions Day he doesn't consider what other context could have caused her sudden, extreme change. Not all because he's a bad person! Just viewing things through a narrow perspective, with his own biases and insecurities. And we watch him start to truly know and understand her during the course of the drama, as her sleepwalking first wakes him up to the idea that there can be silent turmoil under her surface.
Replying to midori99 Mar 8, 2025
at the beginning, i was like this show is too happy, i know something bad is going to happen, FL is going to have…
Love Me, Love My Voice for 2025! c-ent should release one feel-good, no dramatics romance each year ❤️
Replying to JoV08 Mar 8, 2025
They do that in the short dramas I wonder why they don’t do those hot scenes in reg ones as well
imo c-ent is a bit over cautious on intimate scenes. My impression has been that they are self-censoring more than real censors would be. It needs dramas to push the boundaries more to discover what those boundaries actually are.
Replying to Bluemoonandcat Mar 8, 2025
Don't misunderstand me but given that she has trauma for all these years. What they showed us is too little.
IMO the depth/impact of her trauma is the constant fear (hovering threat) that he represented for many months in that house that then cumulated in an attack. Combined with her parent's disbelief and rejection. I've heard people with a similar case (attacked by relative or family friend, disbelieved by their parents) say that the parental reaction was the most scarring psychological element that really stayed with them years later and affected their mental health.
Replying to busterboy Mar 6, 2025
I have a huge issue with the premise of this drama. Where I come from, it is absolutely illegal to date or have…
In real life it's also wrong for a boss and their employee to date, but we see it in many dramas. It's all fictional so it's OK. But if you don't like it, no harm in skipping to watch something else. As a corporate manager, I do get grossed out by those boss x employee couples because it would be so inappropriate and unprofessional for me. But it's fine if others enjoy the fantasy. 🤗
On The Best Thing Mar 6, 2025
One thing that cdramas "The Best Thing" and "I Know I Love You" both capture very well imo is how a woman can get such mired in a longterm relationship that's toxic to her - and the way it drains her of vitality and compresses her, makes her smaller, is very real. Even if the guy isn't physically abusive or loudly shouting and throwing things. Without any of the major signs that outsiders would point at to say it's a bad relationship. And after she has been with this civil, privileged, successful man for 7-10 years it's just assumed she will marry him. Of course she HAS TO. He has a great job, he's good looking, he has never laid a hand on her. They seemed so compatible back as students, during university. And she's sunk most or all of her 20s into this relationship. It's all she knows. If she left him, what would her family think? What would her life plan even look like? Both dramas capture this malaise and then show the FL waking up again and discovering the warmth of being encouraged instead of scolded and placated, being simply LIKED and desired by someone who matured into the same type of adult. The way chinese dramas can take their time and slowly let the story unfold is a good vehicle to explore this situation and watch the woman reconnect with herself.
Replying to u10146071 Mar 6, 2025
This comment is objectively hilarious when you recall that the novel author is a real life sleepwalker and that…
If you don't think sleepwalking is a real life thing that real people suffer from, idk what to tell you bro. Check the International Classification of Diseases, the International Classification of Sleeping Disorders, scientific journals etc. It took me like 2 min to look up the rate in humans: Sleepwalking in children is 5%, compared with 1.5% of adults.
Replying to RuxiTS Mar 5, 2025
what a stupid drama this is😭😂it’s sexual assault on sexual assault on sexual assault😂how realistic.…
This comment is objectively hilarious when you recall that the novel author is a real life sleepwalker and that inspired her to write it 🙃
Replying to Xiao Yu Mar 5, 2025
I'm on ep12, till now the FL is very passive. I want her to realise she likes him T_T poor sang yan!
It's not that she's truly in denial or she's just passice. It's more like the vibe of... if you really screwed up with someone and burned bridges with them. And you feel/know that was on you. So you just accept you lost your chance with them. It's not possible to be with them - even a close friendship, you think is improbable. Base politeness is the best you deserve. So you just try to hold your boundaries and don't allow yourself to even day dream about romantic inclinations. Why make it a thing? Repressing any such intentions and try to keep a respectful distance and not to burden them with your drama. That's the best you can do for them. (This is her sentiments that are more clear/explicit in the novel. She's and self-controlling. Not ALLOWING herself to go there.)
Replying to u10146071 Mar 5, 2025
The sad thing is that I actually have a friend who experienced something like this - her mom remarried when she…
She got married to a really great guy and created a family of her own - happily married now for over 10 years. So sometimes also the happy endings in our dramas occur in real life :) :) Not only the bad parts.
Replying to sera Mar 5, 2025
Your child recently lost her dad, you have remarried and she does not feel welcome in your new house, instead…
The sad thing is that I actually have a friend who experienced something like this - her mom remarried when she was like 17 or 18 and just totally made a "new family" with the guy and has no interest in my friend. Even the grandparents!! The mom's parents just dote on the new grandkid with the new husband. It's like.... she never existed to any of them. Edited out of their story. It's so screwed up but actually this stuff can happen in rl. Like in FF, my friend's mom was never personally abusive at all - not verbal or physically. And so probably considers herself a good person who "just wants to start over". But it's chilling, how they just replace their child who doesn't fit into their new lifestyle.
Replying to xuehua Mar 5, 2025
novel material.
I do feel that the novel has a certain tone to it, though. It's just almost impossible to replicate. The FL in the novel has this dry perspective, where she brushes everything off because she's Been Thru It so nothing else phases her. Paired with a ML whose default manner is abrasive & near rude (to everyone! lmao) it was more amusing half the time than depressing. No matter how outrageous and arrogant he would be, she just accepted it as nbd. It wasn't a comedy and laugh out loud funny. But it wasn't melancholy most of the time. Hard to describe. tldr; the drama is quite faithful to the novel but imo the drama is emotionally harder to consume.
Replying to tintin92 Mar 5, 2025
Do people like SY exist in the real world? People are so hasty these days and no waits, yet this GUY is patient!
Some guys really do get hung up on a past love - for more than 5 or 7 years. Especially if you never really got together. I've seen it. But it generally doesn't have a romantic drama style ending.
Replying to twinty Mar 3, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
NOOOO...how did it end so fast? Was YiFan's hair styled differently in ep 21? It looked like it was a softer style…
She has a bad history with men so it makes conplete sense to me to take things a bit slow on physical intimacy.
Replying to warih tonidah Mar 3, 2025
Title The First Frost Spoiler
I understand now why FL leave ML in first episode. Her life is so hard, there is shadow that she cannot erased.…
At that time she was young and GOING THRU IT and she just couldn't handle managing a friends to lovers transition at the moment. She just pushed him away. And then when she's stabilized, she assumed there was no going back - felt too guilty about "failing" him to presume he would accept her reaching out. So she decided not to trouble him. Thinking that he would have moved on and not even think about her anymore. It's so real imo. if all that was happening to teenage me I'd check out of my cute teen romance too. She was messed up and panic-hit the eject button. Not fair to teenage Sang Yan but none of this was fair to her either.
Replying to u10146071 Mar 1, 2025
yifan is not really that personality type at all, especially in the novel. she doesn't get pressed about stuff…
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Replying to jinsouluvr Mar 1, 2025
can someone who read the novel tell me if we get more yifan being jealous scenes
yifan is not really that personality type at all, especially in the novel. she doesn't get pressed about stuff like that. She's like, if ur not one of my abusers then we're cool. (but if you're linked up with those sh*theads, then gtfo. let's consider each other dead 🤣)