Plan to Watch + 1‑star: I hate it even though I haven’t watched it. On Hold + 1‑star: I hate it but I might come back later. Currently Watching + 1‑star: I hate it but I’m still watching it. Completed + 1‑star: I hate it but I watched every episode anyway. Dropped + 1‑star: I hated it so I quit — the most believable status, but still an unreasonable 1‑star.
The drop rating fell twice today, first from 2.28 to 2.06 and then from 2.06 to 1.81. For this latest drop, the drop‑user count only increased from 63 to 72, a change of 9, but mathematically it would take about 20 new 1‑star drop‑user ratings to cause that decline. It’s unclear whether the current 7.3 drama rating already reflects this or if it will drop further. If those 20 1-star drop users also rate the drama a 1‑star — and it’s very likely they will — their ratings alone would be enough to pull the drama score from 7.3 down to about 6.9 once everything updates.
Preemptive score suppression in action. This sudden wave of 1-star drops at only 4% completion looks like antis trying to drag the score down early and set a low baseline before more Xu Kai fans finish and flood in with high ratings. Stable at ~7.9–8.0 → sharp and instant drop to 7.4 after 46% spike in 1-star drops +15 more 1-star drop users pulled drop rating from 2.28 to 2.06 and pull the score down from 7.4 to 7.3. I think usually drops don't rate a drama because that would be a reasonable person, like why bother, you hardly watched it, but I think here, the 1-star drops are rating it.
They want to pull the score down early, while the drama is still getting a lot of attention. When the score suddenly drops (like from 7.9 to 7.4), new people see the lower number and are less likely to watch or give high ratings.
I think that there are more 1-stars that are not obvious hidden elsewhere not just in the drop which is easy to spot. To go to 7.3, I can only see add'l 15 new 1-star, but there has to be more to drop to 7.3. The data may be delayed. They drop the score then update the data later.
7.5?????? JOKE of the CenturyWho's giving this low stars. CLOWNS 🤡
I think it will go back to 7.7 or 7.8 as the completed rises. Hopefully if the completed can rise to 8, then they 'l give it 7.8 or 7.9. You don't see other dramas get this kind of treatment showing a low score when it's not done rated
the drop volume with 2 rating went up 46% from 5/2 to 5/3 the same time that the score dropped from 7.9 or 7.8 to 7.4. I think the drop users who don't' watch the drama who gave it 1-star also rated it a 1-star. The drop rating was 1.97 then 2.28 and now it's lowered again to 2.06. A drop from 2.28 → 2.06 with the user count rising from 57 → 63 cannot be caused by only six new 1‑star ratings. It requires about twelve.
Boy was the math right. I looked again, the dropped increased another 9 to 72, but the dropped rating remained at 2.06. So it was the addition of 6 + 9 = 15 new 1 star ratings, not 12, but 12 or 15 is close enough. That's why the displayed score dropped again to new low 7.3 because of the additional 1 star ratings. So you may say but every drama has low drop scores but the thing is not every drop user will rate the drama. Given that most of the drop is 1 stars, it is reasonable to assume they are also rating it a 1 star. Anyway, it was very telling because I caught the timing of the change. The 46% increase in drop users coincided with the biggest single drop from 7.9 or 7.8 to 7.4. Now I pay attention the drop rating going down when it's already 2.28. If they keep dropping more 1 stars, it'll go back to below 2.
With around 40 one-stars (reasonable estimate since there are about 60 drops that average 2) and only 222 total ratings so far, roughly 60–70 tens are needed to push it up to 8.0.
I saw on youtube, 800 has a douban rating of 8.3 is that true i have to ask since not everything on youtube is…
Oh that was the Weibo rating it was 8.2 or 8.3 which is a very good score. I looked up several popular dramas getting above 8 on Weibo, and its usually indication the Douban will be 7 or higher, but recent samples show the Douban trending down, maybe 6.9 now.
the currently watching is slowly drip drip drip to below the completed because it has to be below the completed, that's the nature of most dramas over 8.4, although it's only 0.1 below, maybe it will go down more slowly
Tencent lists Eight Hundred as its #1 suspense drama with a 9.2 rating from 170K user ratings. It's not as high as super popular romance dramas that often reach 9.5 or 9.6 on Tencent, but for a short suspense drama, 9.2 is pretty good.
On Tencent, anyone can create an account and give it a 1-star rating even without watching a single episode. However, with over 170K ratings, even a few thousand 1-star reviews can only cause a small dip (like from 9.3 to 9.2). it’s much harder to bomb compared to platforms with lower rating volumes.
I will double check 170K, sometimes search results are fickle, but the volume has to be higher than MDL measly 200 users ratings. the 9.2 is straight off the site.
Probably something i posted. I just want to prove there're bots on this page that deliberately down rating the…
you only need 40 1 star ratings to drop it to 7.4 but 40 seems like a lot of people to me.. like who are these people? and do they also go to Douban? At least Douban tells you who is rating it 1 and why, then you can see how many are haters and how many are just people who nitpick.
It’s a joke — only 3.6% have completed it and MDL puts up a low score. MDL playing the influencer. The same thing happens the other way too: when only 0.1% have completed it and MDL puts up a high score.
This must be Xu Kai's greatest drama since it is also his lowest rating on MDL. Untouchable Lovers does not count. He barely had a character to play. That rating has nothing to do with him.
Like the harshest Xu Kai critic — who actually gave this drama a 2‑goldmine and normally tells her followers not to watch his dramas but recommended this one, and she doesn’t give goldmines easily — said, “it’s mostly Xu Kai fans watching.” So if you do a what‑if, say 60% are giving it 9 and 10, then it’s looking like 20% being 1‑star ratings is really high. Even on Douban it’s only 10%, which is high too. Most dramas that get good Douban scores are below 5% 1‑stars on Douban, but if you are Xu Kai, there are haters everywhere.
Even though she only judges him harshly and not others for the same things, even she had to admit, Xu Kai has become a serious actor in her eyes.
Do the dropped scores figure into the overall rating? I noticed that score is 2.12 for Eight Hundred. Even the…
It doesn't seem to matter what your user status is. Anyone who adds the drama to their watchlist can rate it. They don't have to rate an episode. They can be currently watching, dropped, on‑hold, planning to watch, or completed. It doesn't matter — the only score that impacts it is the one you give the drama, and you can do that anytime with any status.
Out of the 57 drop ratings, if 15 users gave the drama a reasonable 4 or 5 stars, then the remaining 42 users would have needed to rate it 1 star to reach an average of 2.0. When the drama is generally seen as good, such an extremely high number of 1‑star ratings is much less believable than a spread of higher scores. Not all drops will rate a drama, but given the high incidence of 1‑stars, I tend to believe all 42 rated it a 1. There are only 200‑some user ratings, so that’s at least 20% 1 stars.
Are you sure 7.4??I used to think MDL was a well-recognized and fairly reliable platform—like a wiki or IMDb_…
IMDb is not always reliable. Three are 1‑star and one is 2‑star. That's 29% of 14 ratings. This was in the early days of airing. I'm sure those same four users came here to give it a 1‑star too, so the rating dropped from 8.5 to 8.3, and then more 1‑stars came in, so it kept dropping to 8.2, 8.1, 8.0, 7.9, 7.8, and then 7.4. I've never seen a drama steadily drop so fast when there is only 3.6% completion, and tank by 0.4 overnight.
The same thing can be said of a drama the other way: you have users giving it 10 stars and the rating can go up instantly. But Xu Kai fans don't seem to do this. They may rate a drama 10 for each episode, but that won't change the score. They wait until they are done and then score the drama.
In the meantime, you have that 1‑star even from users dropping, on hold, planning to watch — and they don't rate an episode, they don't even have to complete it, they just give it a score. I could be wrong, but I don't think you need to complete it to give it a score.
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On Hold + 1‑star: I hate it but I might come back later.
Currently Watching + 1‑star: I hate it but I’m still watching it.
Completed + 1‑star: I hate it but I watched every episode anyway.
Dropped + 1‑star: I hated it so I quit — the most believable status, but still an unreasonable 1‑star.
I hope it drops to 5
Stable at ~7.9–8.0 → sharp and instant drop to 7.4 after 46% spike in 1-star drops
+15 more 1-star drop users pulled drop rating from 2.28 to 2.06 and pull the score down from 7.4 to 7.3. I think usually drops don't rate a drama because that would be a reasonable person, like why bother, you hardly watched it, but I think here, the 1-star drops are rating it.
They want to pull the score down early, while the drama is still getting a lot of attention.
When the score suddenly drops (like from 7.9 to 7.4), new people see the lower number and are less likely to watch or give high ratings.
I think that there are more 1-stars that are not obvious hidden elsewhere not just in the drop which is easy to spot. To go to 7.3, I can only see add'l 15 new 1-star, but there has to be more to drop to 7.3. The data may be delayed. They drop the score then update the data later.
"I really like the title of each episode."
A drop from 2.28 → 2.06 with the user count rising from 57 → 63 cannot be caused by only six new 1‑star ratings. It requires about twelve.
Boy was the math right. I looked again, the dropped increased another 9 to 72, but the dropped rating remained at 2.06. So it was the addition of 6 + 9 = 15 new 1 star ratings, not 12, but 12 or 15 is close enough. That's why the displayed score dropped again to new low 7.3 because of the additional 1 star ratings. So you may say but every drama has low drop scores but the thing is not every drop user will rate the drama. Given that most of the drop is 1 stars, it is reasonable to assume they are also rating it a 1 star. Anyway, it was very telling because I caught the timing of the change. The 46% increase in drop users coincided with the biggest single drop from 7.9 or 7.8 to 7.4. Now I pay attention the drop rating going down when it's already 2.28. If they keep dropping more 1 stars, it'll go back to below 2.
On Tencent, anyone can create an account and give it a 1-star rating even without watching a single episode. However, with over 170K ratings, even a few thousand 1-star reviews can only cause a small dip (like from 9.3 to 9.2). it’s much harder to bomb compared to platforms with lower rating volumes.
I will double check 170K, sometimes search results are fickle, but the volume has to be higher than MDL measly 200 users ratings. the 9.2 is straight off the site.
This must be Xu Kai's greatest drama since it is also his lowest rating on MDL. Untouchable Lovers does not count. He barely had a character to play. That rating has nothing to do with him.
Even though she only judges him harshly and not others for the same things, even she had to admit, Xu Kai has become a serious actor in her eyes.
Out of the 57 drop ratings, if 15 users gave the drama a reasonable 4 or 5 stars, then the remaining 42 users would have needed to rate it 1 star to reach an average of 2.0. When the drama is generally seen as good, such an extremely high number of 1‑star ratings is much less believable than a spread of higher scores. Not all drops will rate a drama, but given the high incidence of 1‑stars, I tend to believe all 42 rated it a 1. There are only 200‑some user ratings, so that’s at least 20% 1 stars.
The same thing can be said of a drama the other way: you have users giving it 10 stars and the rating can go up instantly. But Xu Kai fans don't seem to do this. They may rate a drama 10 for each episode, but that won't change the score. They wait until they are done and then score the drama.
In the meantime, you have that 1‑star even from users dropping, on hold, planning to watch — and they don't rate an episode, they don't even have to complete it, they just give it a score. I could be wrong, but I don't think you need to complete it to give it a score.