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can anyone graciously explain ep 37 for me...How did it end in the novel? Are they both immortal now? If so how did Wen Kexing survive? Thank you ._.

Replying to your comment about how this is a bromance insulted you a lot:
Is the (b)romance in this drama any different than in the novel? I think they portrayed the relationship between Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian very very authentically. All of the iconic scenes were shown on screen and audiences were surprised that they even dared to show some of them. The only scenes that were not included were the Phoenix mountain kiss, the actual confession, and the mature scenes near the end. Other than that were there any other canon Wangxian scenes that were left out in the drama? Does leaving out these three more explicit displays of romance completely turn the drama into a bromance?
I mean yes these are your opinions, but I just was curious about this.

Idk if I'm reading too much into this but I saw that you replied to another comment saying "I just dropped few lines on here as I thought I could find some encouragement to continue watching it as I am struggling" yet you're replying to me with "Just not my thing" after I gave you a bunch of encouragement sooooo....???

Ok, whatever lol. I could go on arguing but let's not go there. I just find it funny that you used a whole bunch of adjectives to describe things you like, and then I come along and tell you how The Untamed does fit these adjectives, but it's not enough I guess. Happy drama watching then!

Just looking at your list I think you and I have very similar tastes. Eternal Love was my #1 until The Untamed dethroned it. So idk how else to respond except to address the adjectives that you used lol
- "Epic" - There are many forms of epic and I think it mostly refers to something that is large scale, grand, etc. Most xianxia/wuxia dramas fit this adjective by nature because the story takes place in many planes of space. The Untamed definitely has epic elements and lots of adventure.
- "complex plots" - The Untamed definitely has complex plots. It's just that one needs the patience to finish all 50 to really understand the complexity, because really the complexity goes all the way until the very minute, trust me. Looking at your list you rated Princess Weiyoung and Eternal Love of Dream pretty high, but I would say both of those have far less complex plots than The Untamed.
- "vivid cinematography" - There has been many debates about this topic in this comments section ahaha. My opinion is: CGI is not the best I've seen but camera-work has some pretty showoff-y moments in the show. The visual imagery can be very beautiful and symbolic at times.
- "brilliant casts and acting" - The term brilliant most likely is given to experience/seasoned actors, such as the veteran actors in Royal Nirvana and Nirvana in Fire, but there are rare occasions when a rookie cast has phenomenal acting. I think most would agree with me that a major reason that The Untamed was so captivating was how the actors brought the characters to life with their acting.

I believe he was in seclusion for 3 years as his form of punishment and those 3 years were likely counted in the 16 years, so maybe that's also another reason why they made it 16 not 13.
Edit: I'm pretty sure the 13 years thing in the book starts when Lan Wangji left seclusion and started to look for Wei Wuxian. (I'm not going to go into the book in case you haven't read it yet. )

I went back and rewatched ep 2 and actually saw some stuff that counter my argument above. For example, when Jiang Cheng first runs into Lan Wangji in the forest he says "you've been to many places these 16 years" meaning that after Wei Wuxian died Lan Wangji had been traveling for 16 years, which doesn't make sense with my explanation above.
So I guess I just have no idea what the truth is lmao. It will remain a mystery for me

that has always been a mystery for me.
I always thought of it as 16 years ago was the start of the Lan indoctrination. In ep 2 Wei Wuxian right before the flashback says "sometimes I wish I could go back to 16 years ago, back to lotus clove", which indicates that 16 years ago starts at lotus cove, which in turn indicates that that was when the Lan indoctrination was just starting. The beginning of the flashback confirms this.
I believe in the original, the 13 years starts when Lan Wangji learns of Wei Wuxian's death, so this 3 years difference in the drama makes up for the time spent at the Lan indoctrination and events that follow it. There is the popular saying "playing inquiry for 13 years, waiting for a soul that won't return" (not a canon quote though) which describes Lan Wangji waiting 13 years for Wei Wuxian, which means the 13 years started when Wei Wuxian died.
This explanation partly makes sense for me but also partly doesn't because I don't believe that the Lan indoctrination + all the events before the cliff fall happened only in 3 years. I think that the show labeled the entire flashback as "16 years" so they didn't have to calculate the exact number of years that passed. So basically "16 years ago" refers to the entire series of events that happened in the past, but as for how many years actually passed, we don't know. Therefore in the drama version, it is possible that the time from Wei Wuxian's cliff fall to him appearing in Mo manor was actually not 13 years but less than that. Again, I'm just speculating.

the most commonly used translated version https://exiledrebelsscanlations.com/novels/grandmaster-of-demonic-cultivation/

I like your analysis! I think Wei Wuxian is pushing him away because he is afraid he will "taint" the clean and righteous Lan Wangji with his dark powers.

right, lazy translation is such a pet peeve of mine. It's not like it's hard to translate it as is.....???

there is technically only one version. The "second version" is the special edition which is a 20 episode cut version of this one, but both tell the same story.

The manhua (manga) isn't complete either. The drama is not an adaptation of the donghua (anime) but rather one of the original novel. The original novel is complete so the drama is also complete.

which episode which voice lol

nope, but season 3 isn't out yet so maybe...? ;)

Fantasy Cdramas are kinda a subset of historical Cdramas! So this one is definitely full of power struggles, politics, etc

Many viewers including myself are confused in the first few episodes and many have responded to this comment by saying "you're supposed to be confused". I'd say yea I would pretty much agree. The world-building takes place in the first couple of episodes. But I'd say the same goes for any other fantasy Cdramas. If this is your first fantasy Cdrama I'd understand that you're confused. There is not a single episode that is the cutoff for whether you should drop or keep going, so I'm just going to say watch the whole thing LOL. If this is your first fantasy Cdrama why not give it the benefit of the doubt and try the whole thing? If you're finding it hard to get through, try sticking with one episode per day so that you don't get burnout. The Untamed really is catered to any audience.

Lol "what is the plot" is a tough question. I'd say the synopsis here is pretty straight forward. It is written with the events in chronological order. I'd say a majority of the plot is mystery solving with Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji. Wei Wuxian got entangled with the events of the past (16 years ago) which resulted in a tragedy for him. The mysteries that occur 16 years later seem to be connected to the events of the past, so Wei Wuxian works together with Lan Wangji to solve them. Political intrigues I would say is definitely a motif that occurs that contributes to the overall plot, and are the motivations behind the events that happen.