I'm only up to ep 10 but 2 things I find very amusing are first that Hua Zhi was the first to sell candied hawthorns (which I love), and secondly that they expect me to believe she thinks there are up to 2 men as tall as HYT in her radar. The secret identity falls apart when you have someone as distinct as HYT in the role. Literally every person on screen has to look up at him lol.
The reason he seemed to be solely focusing on revenge against Soo Hyun was because he wanted to distract Kim Joon.…
The person who hit his mother also did so accidentally and was released. Why didn't he accept that? Why did he hound their family and refuse to let it go? I didn't say he should celebrate his father's death. I said he went through the same thing and it never occurred to him that there may be more to the story.
Exposing her cheating husband by trying to force her elderly mother to deal with it seems unhinged to me, maybe you don't see that as a big deal and that's fine. Also, involving her sister's scumbag bio mom to cause more distress was only to further wreck the family.
At the end of the day, it's a just kdrama and it's never that deep. This is probably the most I've ever thought about this drama and it's already tiring lol.
Yoon Eun Seong has to be the most delusional man in kdramas right now. How did he really think it was going to go? Hae In would marry someone who threatened her and they'd live happily ever after? I absolutely loved the climax of ep 10. I enjoyed Hae In putting everything out there so she can't be blackmailed or threatened again. I just wish I knew for certain that everything would be alright in the end.
I also love how we keep finding out what a badass Hyun Woo is. Now if we finally get the two of them properly communicating and sharing everything next week, I'll finally be happy.
The reason he seemed to be solely focusing on revenge against Soo Hyun was because he wanted to distract Kim Joon.…
He was there when his father was arrested and put on trial for running over a child with his car. He was also there when his father was released with no punishment. At the very least, he knew his father killed her son and didn't get punished, which is exactly what happened to the driver who hit his mother. He didn't need to know more about that driver to know that it was wrong for him to go free after hitting someone. The same thing applies with his father. He doesn't need to be next level evil for it to be beyond wrong that he gets to go home happily after killing a child.
Also, Kim Joon only knew about the pics when he gave them to him. It's not like Kim Joon was having him watched 24/7 for him to put on this elaborate scheme of getting revenge on Soo Hyun. That's just a choice he made. He spent so much time following up on Soo Hyun's every move and paying off people to watch her in prison, to deceive Kim Joon? She already got more of a punishment under the law than his father did but he didn't see anything wrong with his father not being punished for his own crimes.
Finally, if he wasn't trying to ruin Soo Hyun's life, why did he keep going after her mother when he didn't get the reaction he wanted from Soo Hyun?
The reason he seemed to be solely focusing on revenge against Soo Hyun was because he wanted to distract Kim Joon.…
Nothing about collecting evidence about Kim Joon meant he had to dedicate that much time and energy into ruining Soo Hyun's life after prison. Kim Joon didn't even know he was doing all that so that's a weak excuse.
Also want to add that I'm now almost certain that the thing Kim Joon showed Su Ho to get him to back off was actually evidence of Soo Hyun leaving the gate open. I think he dropped it at that time because it would have completely broken her to know that she really did that, especially when she already blamed herself for Gunwoo's death. I came to this conclusion cos they still haven't revealed what it was and that is the only thing that will shake Soo Hyun at this stage.
So we find out that Seon Yul's father was actually more despicable than originally thought. No surprise there, really.
If Soo Hyun didn't copy the contents of the tablet into at least 3 different backup sources immediately, I'm going to give this a 6/10 no matter what. I will not forgive that level of negligence when she knows who the enemy is. It was really sad to hear her son's last moments and hear him scared and calling for his mother while those evil men calculated how to end his life. Kim Joon needs to suffer a fate worse than death.
The thing with Soo Hyun's mother having a mental break seems so far out of left field. Like, why introduce this at this point? What exactly are we trying to achieve here? Hasn't that poor woman been through enough?
AND, once again, I find more reasons to be annoyed with the revenge scheme from Seon Yul. He went through exactly what Soo Hyun went through with the man who hit his mother. The man got off with nothing and he was ready to commit murder. But Soo Hyun was supposed to accept a nothing verdict for the man who killed her son??? The fact that he could also have gone much further with solving the mystery of his mother's accident if he'd not spent all that time and energy on that revenge scheme also irks me.
Anyway, re: ep 11, I'm so tired of Su Ho still hiding things from Soo Hyun. I thought she was going to stumble into some of his secrets in the house but I guess we still have at least one bombshell to drop.
Also, I hope this is the last time I have to listen to Seon Yul talking about not forgiving Soo Hyun cos, again, your father killed a child and mocked the dead child's mother. I'm very curious about why his mother was recording her phone calls though. That's not a default setting of the phone and it doesn't seem like something you do just for fun when you're in that generation.
To me, it feels like Iwanaga just isn't ready to talk about his feelings around being tossed out by his mother just because he wanted to run away with a boy. It's obviously left some deep scars and I also wonder if he doesn't bring it up with Miyata because he doesn't want Miyata to feel like this is his fault (which happens anyway in ep 5).
The 'break-up' seems like Iwanaga taking time to deal with his family without involving Miyata but I also think Miyata needs that time apart to sort through his own feelings and decide how far he's willing to go with Iwanaga. It seems like he knows that he loves Iwanaga but his insecurities keep getting in the way, so it would be nice for him to work through them and then communicate with Iwanaga. I don't think he ever even told Iwanaga about the message he received and the picture, unless I missed that.
As for Iwanaga's mother, she's lucky he turned out decent cos I would simply take over the family business and sell it to a foreigner cos I'm petty like that. The least he can do for them is refuse to return, honestly.
I’m genuinely baffled by the people who are still questioning Takashi’s sincerity after EP4..
Me too because he has been declaring his intention and acting on his sincerity for several episodes now. He said he wants to spend the rest of his life with Akihiro and is showing his affection in his way (including a cheesy, over-the-top bouquet of flowers). Also people keep saying he sleeps around when we've only ever been told that he was with his assistant and that ended because he wanted something serious and the assistant wanted a fling. It feels like there are hidden episodes of the show some people are watching that the rest of us haven't seen cos I don't get it.
After ep 8, I'm starting to think that Hae In is Eun Seong's weakness. Also, there was a scene some episodes ago that made me wonder if he really even cares that much about this scheme cos if he did all this as some roundabout way to get Hae In, then he's in for a very rude awakening. She's told him over and over that she has no interest in him but he thinks he can control her with money.
The grandfather choosing the words of some hokey shaman over the advice of a very competent lawyer makes me even less sympathetic to his situation. He's a big idiot who abandoned his kids because of his mistress and he deserves a bitter end. As someone said, I just feel bad for Hae In, her dad and her brother. Her mother can kick rocks.
I'm very curious about how they're going to come back from all this, but hopefully this turn also means that all the traitors in the family have been revealed. I also wonder why Hyun Woo didn't tell Hae In about that snake finding out about her illness. I feel like that's information she should've had already and I hope they don't assume we'll forget about that without a proper explanation (unless I missed something).
Very excited for the next episodes and praying nothing happens to Hae In.
question for the detectives heredid the sister and the husband sleep together multiple times? i saw some ppl saying…
To me, it looked like the sister took advantage of him being drunk and vulnerable but then, the other question is what did the congressman show the husband to get him to back off the investigation before? Everyone is saying it was evidence of the sister leaving the house gate open but I don't think so.
Soo Hyun is better than me cos I'd simply go to Seon Yul's mother's room and let him know we can both go down if he wants to play stupid games. Anytime he starts going on about his parents and their pain I just keep repeating "dude, your father killed a child and got away with it". Anyway, as they say, an eye for an eye leaves the world blind so of course he's too obsessed to see any other angle. Soo Hyun does a lot of thinking, which would be great, except it's obviously not enough, cos how did she not see him going to her mother next? It's literally what he did with the first photo when she didn't give him the reaction he wanted.
I feel like this show is deliberately slow cos a lot of meaningless staring could have been things happening to move this plot along and then maybe we'd be done in 12 episodes instead of 14.
Actually I've decided that if Hae-in dies I'm going to hunt this writer down and get vengeance 😭😭. They're finally communicating and I'm so happy, but those divorce papers will surely crop up now to cause more problems.
I like the flashbacks to show the breakdown of the relationship and it's just as I suspected. Losing a child is so devastating and instead of going through it together, they were isolated because of the miscommunication between them. I want more episodes of them being happy cos they deserve to be happy especially together.
I'm also looking forward to whatever fruits will come from her aunt's investigation into the old man's mistress. That woman is definitely trying to bring their family down and I'd like to know more about her motives.
I would understand Seon Yul's feelings to some extent if he wasn't already grown when his father died. He was old enough to see that his father literally got away with murder so if he thinks his revenge is justified, what the hell did he expect of a mother whose son was killed and she had to watch the killer walk free for no reason? His head was buried deep in the sand when it was his father on trial but now he's an avenger for this misguided vengeance. Unfortunate and disappointing.
In other news, I really wish Soo Hyun and her husband weren't so busy hiding things from each other cos they would've figured all this out a lot sooner if they were sharing information. I'm also glad that the husband/sister affair is finally out in the open and I hope next week we'll see the plot move some more.
Seon Yul is so funny cos what does he mean he wants to take everything precious from Soo Hyun as if his father didn't already kill her son and then complain about the child's death being a nuisance after he got away with a tap on the wrist? He's talking about his parents being hurt and their lives being ruined and ignoring the very horrible crime his father committed and the fact that Soo Hyun did not ger justice for her son's death. That young man needs a cold splash of reality.
I also get the feeling that the congressman had something to do with Seon Yul's mother's accident cos everything around that is so fishy and instead of using his big brain to figure that out, he's busy harassing a woman who already lost everything. Disappointing to say the least.
Finally, the sister + husband reveal needs to happen soon cos I'm already tired of all the tension around those two.
Once I got past my usual expectations for a romance kdrama, I found this to be very soothing and wholesome in a very reassuring way. It's not perfect but I like the message of rediscovering yourself at your lowest moment and the message of forgiving yourself and others, and finally the message of being comfortable with yourself and finding someone who appreciates you for who you are. These stood out the most to me and I enjoyed how they were conveyed in the drama.
Overall, I gave it an 8/10 even though I started out at a 7/10 because at the end of the final episode I felt a sense of peace I don't often associate with dramas. It gave us two quirky, loveable, troubled characters who helped each other find some things to love more about the world and ways to bring real joy and peace to each other's lives. I liked that.
Exposing her cheating husband by trying to force her elderly mother to deal with it seems unhinged to me, maybe you don't see that as a big deal and that's fine. Also, involving her sister's scumbag bio mom to cause more distress was only to further wreck the family.
At the end of the day, it's a just kdrama and it's never that deep. This is probably the most I've ever thought about this drama and it's already tiring lol.
I also love how we keep finding out what a badass Hyun Woo is. Now if we finally get the two of them properly communicating and sharing everything next week, I'll finally be happy.
Also, Kim Joon only knew about the pics when he gave them to him. It's not like Kim Joon was having him watched 24/7 for him to put on this elaborate scheme of getting revenge on Soo Hyun. That's just a choice he made. He spent so much time following up on Soo Hyun's every move and paying off people to watch her in prison, to deceive Kim Joon? She already got more of a punishment under the law than his father did but he didn't see anything wrong with his father not being punished for his own crimes.
Finally, if he wasn't trying to ruin Soo Hyun's life, why did he keep going after her mother when he didn't get the reaction he wanted from Soo Hyun?
If Soo Hyun didn't copy the contents of the tablet into at least 3 different backup sources immediately, I'm going to give this a 6/10 no matter what. I will not forgive that level of negligence when she knows who the enemy is. It was really sad to hear her son's last moments and hear him scared and calling for his mother while those evil men calculated how to end his life. Kim Joon needs to suffer a fate worse than death.
The thing with Soo Hyun's mother having a mental break seems so far out of left field. Like, why introduce this at this point? What exactly are we trying to achieve here? Hasn't that poor woman been through enough?
AND, once again, I find more reasons to be annoyed with the revenge scheme from Seon Yul. He went through exactly what Soo Hyun went through with the man who hit his mother. The man got off with nothing and he was ready to commit murder. But Soo Hyun was supposed to accept a nothing verdict for the man who killed her son??? The fact that he could also have gone much further with solving the mystery of his mother's accident if he'd not spent all that time and energy on that revenge scheme also irks me.
Also, I hope this is the last time I have to listen to Seon Yul talking about not forgiving Soo Hyun cos, again, your father killed a child and mocked the dead child's mother. I'm very curious about why his mother was recording her phone calls though. That's not a default setting of the phone and it doesn't seem like something you do just for fun when you're in that generation.
I like the story and the characters enough, but I can't help feeling the slow, almost painful passage of time whenever I watch an episode.
The 'break-up' seems like Iwanaga taking time to deal with his family without involving Miyata but I also think Miyata needs that time apart to sort through his own feelings and decide how far he's willing to go with Iwanaga. It seems like he knows that he loves Iwanaga but his insecurities keep getting in the way, so it would be nice for him to work through them and then communicate with Iwanaga. I don't think he ever even told Iwanaga about the message he received and the picture, unless I missed that.
As for Iwanaga's mother, she's lucky he turned out decent cos I would simply take over the family business and sell it to a foreigner cos I'm petty like that. The least he can do for them is refuse to return, honestly.
The grandfather choosing the words of some hokey shaman over the advice of a very competent lawyer makes me even less sympathetic to his situation. He's a big idiot who abandoned his kids because of his mistress and he deserves a bitter end. As someone said, I just feel bad for Hae In, her dad and her brother. Her mother can kick rocks.
I'm very curious about how they're going to come back from all this, but hopefully this turn also means that all the traitors in the family have been revealed. I also wonder why Hyun Woo didn't tell Hae In about that snake finding out about her illness. I feel like that's information she should've had already and I hope they don't assume we'll forget about that without a proper explanation (unless I missed something).
Very excited for the next episodes and praying nothing happens to Hae In.
I feel like this show is deliberately slow cos a lot of meaningless staring could have been things happening to move this plot along and then maybe we'd be done in 12 episodes instead of 14.
I like the flashbacks to show the breakdown of the relationship and it's just as I suspected. Losing a child is so devastating and instead of going through it together, they were isolated because of the miscommunication between them. I want more episodes of them being happy cos they deserve to be happy especially together.
I'm also looking forward to whatever fruits will come from her aunt's investigation into the old man's mistress. That woman is definitely trying to bring their family down and I'd like to know more about her motives.
In other news, I really wish Soo Hyun and her husband weren't so busy hiding things from each other cos they would've figured all this out a lot sooner if they were sharing information. I'm also glad that the husband/sister affair is finally out in the open and I hope next week we'll see the plot move some more.
I also get the feeling that the congressman had something to do with Seon Yul's mother's accident cos everything around that is so fishy and instead of using his big brain to figure that out, he's busy harassing a woman who already lost everything. Disappointing to say the least.
Finally, the sister + husband reveal needs to happen soon cos I'm already tired of all the tension around those two.
Overall, I gave it an 8/10 even though I started out at a 7/10 because at the end of the final episode I felt a sense of peace I don't often associate with dramas. It gave us two quirky, loveable, troubled characters who helped each other find some things to love more about the world and ways to bring real joy and peace to each other's lives. I liked that.