potatocouch:

Oh, I definitely enjoyed...😩<3 That was the visual equivalent of eating a really good ribeye steak. Succulent! Nice job, murderbee. You picked the best Princess Decree and Lady Painter scenes (my fav was the hot springs). I really have to get around to finishing My Lady General. I remember enjoying it, but I got distracted by something else. Now I can't remember what would've distracted me from such an elegant and pretty ML.

Thank you! @Arclei supplied me with the Lady Painter scenes, and Princess Decree was so deliciously RR before it took a turn :(

And yeah, you really should finish My Lady General, the ML is so dainty and babygirl coded!

potatocouch:

And I cannot start yet another drama. I just really hope the masc couple stays consistent.

I've just caught up to all the episodes that have aired, and unfortunately, I don't think the masc couple stays consistent, it's starting to lean a little more un-RR :'( I think it might be a bait-and-switch like you said, but it hasn't completely taken a turn yet.

The RR leading up to it is wonderful though, I've been really invested in their relationship!

And once the ML's secret of actually knowing martial arts and having a whole faction with multiple subordinates is out, there are VERY few kinda-trad moments but the FL turns it around immediately. The ML also keeps acting weak and trying to appeal to the FL by saying things like: "My body is too frail, this bumpy carriage ride is too much for me :(" and then falling on the FL lmao he is such a green tea

murderbee:
I've just caught up to all the episodes that have aired, and unfortunately, I don't think the masc couple stays consistent, it's starting to lean a little more un-RR :'( I think it might be a bait-and-switch like you said, but it hasn't completely taken a turn yet.

I want to scream 😩 Why??? Why can't they leave characters like this the way they are??? The message of traditional gender roles being the ideal is so pervasive. I hope the SFL resets their dynamic again, although the chances of that seem low. Please keep us posted!

murderbee:
And once the ML's secret of actually knowing martial arts and having a whole faction with multiple subordinates is out, there are VERY few kinda-trad moments but the FL turns it around immediately.

Okay...that's a relief! And I do love a good green tea.

Admittedly, my excitement's a bit dampened, but I'm still tempted to check it out.

MDL won't let me quote your post, @potatocouch, but I really think you'll enjoy My Lady General! It's one of my favorite RR dramas ever and got me into looking for more RR dramas. There is so much good RR, and both ML and FL are amazing πŸ₯° even though ML has a fake identity going on, he's still RR!

jay:

MDL won't let me quote your post, @potatocouch, but I really think you'll enjoy My Lady General! It's one of my favorite RR dramas ever and got me into looking for more RR dramas. There is so much good RR, and both ML and FL are amazing πŸ₯° even though ML has a fake identity going on, he's still RR!

I think I got to the part where ML starts having feelings for FL, so he's ready to covertly murder anyone who harms her while pretending to be knocked over by a stiff gust of wind πŸ˜‚ It was entertaining from what I remember, so I'll be revisiting it soon.

potatocouch:

I think I got to the part where ML starts having feelings for FL, so he's ready to covertly murder anyone who harms her while pretending to be knocked over by a stiff gust of wind πŸ˜‚ It was entertaining from what I remember, so I'll be revisiting it soon.

Ahhhh the good stuff πŸ˜† looking forward to your thoughts on it!

Hloooo! So I'm wondering if you could rec me dramas where the fl is the one that's assertive,toxic, obsessive, possessive a red flag kind of? Also the one who puts efforts into their relationship. Like I'm so done with those typical toxic ceo ml and shy, pathetic, overbearing fls. I'd appreciate it if it's a vertical drama or even a short drama. Lengthy ones feel a bit boring for me but I'll try it if it's rr. Thank you in advance.

Votiny:

Hloooo! So I'm wondering if you could rec me dramas where the fl is the one that's assertive,toxic, obsessive, possessive a red flag kind of? Also the one who puts efforts into their relationship. Like I'm so done with those typical toxic ceo ml and shy, pathetic, overbearing fls. I'd appreciate it if it's a vertical drama or even a short drama. Lengthy ones feel a bit boring for me but I'll try it if it's rr. Thank you in advance.

I've made a list where there should be many of that kind, especially verticals! Here is it: https://kisskh.at/list/4vGZ72N1

I def recommend the first two on the list, they're extremely red flag FLs :)

murderbee:
Votiny:

Hloooo! So I'm wondering if you could rec me dramas where the fl is the one that's assertive,toxic, obsessive, possessive a red flag kind of? Also the one who puts efforts into their relationship. Like I'm so done with those typical toxic ceo ml and shy, pathetic, overbearing fls. I'd appreciate it if it's a vertical drama or even a short drama. Lengthy ones feel a bit boring for me but I'll try it if it's rr. Thank you in advance.

I've made a list where there should be many of that kind, especially verticals! Here is it: https://kisskh.at/list/4vGZ72N1

I def recommend the first two on the list, they're extremely red flag FLs :)

Hlooo! Thank you for the link! I've already watched the first two infact most of the dramas in your list. The first dramas are my top favourite rr vertical dramas tbh...... I loved the second one alot cause it was refreshing and different from the system and taming the ml dramas. Maybe also cause i like femdom too! Anyways thank you for the list.

Votiny:
I've already watched the first two infact most of the dramas in your list. The first dramas are my top favourite rr vertical dramas tbh

Oh, that's unfortunate! And yeah, those two are also my fav vertical dramas. Have you watched Alluring Night (in the description of the list)? I also think that very much suits your request.

@Arclei also has a list for morally grey FLs on their role reversal masterlist, here it is:

https://kisskh.at/list/1epQmRd4

murderbee:
Votiny:

I've already watched the first two infact most of the dramas in your list. The first dramas are my top favourite rr vertical dramas tbh

Oh, that's unfortunate! And yeah, those two are also my fav vertical dramas. Have you watched Alluring Night (in the description of the list)? I also think that very much suits your request.

@Arclei also has a list for morally grey FLs on their role reversal masterlist, here it is:

https://kisskh.at/list/1epQmRd4

Yup. I did watch alluring night and the next one given in the description as well. Alluring night is always on my rewatch list. Like the rr in that is sooo good. Exactly my vibe. Thanks for the link. I've had alot of dramas saved and watched from that too! I guess I've watched everything and still searching for more! I appreciate your help.

Votiny:
I guess I've watched everything and still searching for more! I appreciate your help

I guess you're just too much of a seasoned RR watcher πŸ˜… oh well, i did my best. Have fun!

murderbee:
Votiny:

I guess I've watched everything and still searching for more! I appreciate your help

I guess you're just too much of a seasoned RR watcher πŸ˜… oh well, i did my best. Have fun!

Yup. Seems like it. It feels like eating everything and then still searching for more food. Now I've to wait till new ones come out..... But thanks for your help

Votiny:

Ikr!! Finally a convincing female cross dressing as male. It's not like they just put the actress in men clothes and called it a day. It's sooo convincing. And she's dominating (plus point) the way she fights him and pick him up on her shoulder? Ughhhhh!

The way she so effortlessly manhandles him is tickling me just right. Especially because he's being so principled and prissy about it, and I just love that in a man 😌

murderbee:

that first oneeee 😩 I need this kinda dynamic executed with commitment and then injected directly into my bloodstream ASAP

murderbee:

It also seems to be leaning slightly more egal than RR, and one of FL's maids plays one of the FLs in Hail to the Princess.

OH MY GOD, HAIL TO THE PRINCESS MENTION!!!!! This drama lowkey had me in a chokehold when I watched it 😩The RR throuple of my dreams

murderbee:

She's a gentlewoman as well 🀭😩

The 2ML is so flustered around her 🀭

She also gives bisexual vibes, she hangs around courtesans and seems to enjoy their attention!

bi gnc woman x bi gnc man my beloved πŸ™

potatocouch:

The masc x masc couple looks soooooo good! They're actually who I keep seeing edits of. I'm a little scared because someone in the YT comments essentially said there was a bait and switch, but I'm still tempted to at least watch the RR goodness beforehand. If you watch it, please let me know.

I also keep seeing edits, gifs, and posts about the secondary couple more than the main xD The bait and switch sounds very disappointing tho... I would hate for them to somehow turn this very gnc RR couple into tradslop...

This sounds like a drama me and my mum could get a kick out of so I'll probably watch it sometime with her, tho idk when. I'll let you know how it goes when I do.

potatocouch:

I first saw He Yu in My Fated Boy, and always thought he was an interesting balance of cute x masculine. I couldn't get into his other dramas because of the relationship dynamics, but now that I'm learning more about Blossoms of Power, I'm quite intrigued....

Never seen him before but man is so fine...

murderbee:

I've just caught up to all the episodes that have aired, and unfortunately, I don't think the masc couple stays consistent, it's starting to lean a little more un-RR :'( I think it might be a bait-and-switch like you said, but it hasn't completely taken a turn yet.

That is supremely disappointing... keep us posted on how it continues... :( I hate that the one time we get something good and committed it has to flip it back. It's so fucking sinister

murderbee:

And once the ML's secret of actually knowing martial arts and having a whole faction with multiple subordinates is out

Of course... Of COURSE this would happen πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€ because being the most handsome, and the smartest, and the literal crown prince isn't enough... he also has to be a secret badass sect leader who is faking his illness, because can y'all imagine if the ML was not more powerful than the literal gods? And I complain about donghua MLs πŸ’€ siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh

murderbee:

The ML also keeps acting weak and trying to appeal to the FL by saying things like: "My body is too frail, this bumpy carriage ride is too much for me :(" and then falling on the FL lmao he is such a green tea

This is very nice, tho. I do love me green-tea MLs and wish we got more of them 😩 Maybe I can overlook that 'written by a 13-year-old'ness of the rest of him and focus only on his green-tea frailness. He sounds a lot like the ML from Ye Cheng Fu, whom, I admittedly loved, but the actor was also super charismatic and it was a matriarchy...

potatocouch:

I want to scream 😩 Why??? Why can't they leave characters like this the way they are??? The message of traditional gender roles being the ideal is so pervasive. I hope the SFL resets their dynamic again, although the chances of that seem low. Please keep us posted!

Literally my thoughts, lol 🀝🀝

potatocouch:

Admittedly, my excitement's a bit dampened, but I'm still tempted to check it out.

Once again, same... xD


Still eager to check Blossoms of Power out but I'm not itching for it like other dramas on my PTW, so I'll leave it for later when I wanna watch smth with my mum. It does seem like a good time. Hopefully it remains mostly RR throughout and they fix whatever bullshit they're doing to the secondary couple. Friends, keep me posted on how it progresses πŸ™


potatocouch:

but I wonder if she would've gone as far as supporting him becoming the head of a criminal organization? I don't remember how morally gray she was.

I think she would've supported him through anything, girl was PISSED with the way he was treated, but idk. I also forgor the details

potatocouch:

As for Secrets of the Shadow Sect, I need to give it another try. I watched it when I was in a blah mood, and the first couple of episodes didn't hit. But I believe y'all, so give me some time.

The first couple of episodes didn't hit????!!!!????? What???????!!!

potatocouch:

I think I got to the part where ML starts having feelings for FL, so he's ready to covertly murder anyone who harms her while pretending to be knocked over by a stiff gust of wind πŸ˜‚ It was entertaining from what I remember, so I'll be revisiting it soon.

The dynamic is v similar to The General and Her Boytoy, so you'll enjoy it 😁


Votiny:

Alluring night is always on my rewatch list. Like the rr in that is sooo good. Exactly my vibe.

ALLURING NIGHT APPRECIATION!!! YEEEEESSSSS!!!! This drama has me in a literal chokehold (as y'all can prolly tell with my new pfp). I'm so glad we finally got our own vampire RR romance, it's been so fucking long!!!

NACN24:

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